Japanese WWII rifle

Gobler · Post by **Gobler** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:20 am

Well I came across a Japanese 7.7mm WWII Model 99 rifle. The guy selling it wants $50 for it. Does anyone here know anything about this type of rifle? It's in very good condition with some wear in the wood sections. What is it worth (a rough estimate) or is it worth less then $50. He's selling off his Granddads estate.

http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/SmallArms/ ... p77rif.jpg

Let me know what's what.

Cheers,
Jeff

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:44 am

This site says it has an estimated value of $75-$150 on an auction:

http://www.armsbid.com/dez370.htm

I'd say it's a pretty good deal.

Does it still have the monopod?
http://www.peleliu.net/JapWeapons/99rifle.htm

Intended to be used as an help for taking out aircraft.

Regards,
Swindiana

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:53 am

They kick like a mule, but man, are they accurate. Make sure (if you can ask the seller) it's a pre-war version. The war issues were pretty rough and poor machinings, but the pre-war versions that I've handled and fired are pretty well put together, especially the 7.7's. Regards. Michaelson

Gobler · Post by **Gobler** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:51 pm

Yes it has the folding monopod. I'm pretty sure it’s WWII due to the fact he also has a WWII Officers Katana and they were "spoils" from where his Grandad served.

Cheers,
Jeff

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:54 pm

Look on the top of the receiver, and see if there's a flower shape pressed into the metal. There were two Japanese makers of these guns, and the ones with the flower were considered the best. The other, though good, was usually chambered in caliber 6.5. I believe the correct name of the guns is an Ariska, but that's going on memory here.
Regards. Michaelson

Gobler · Post by **Gobler** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:00 pm

. Yes it does have the flower. I noticed that right away. It even has the removable barrel plug to keep it clean.

Cheers,
Jeff

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:11 pm

If the bore is clean, the rifling sharp, and all parts functional, the price is excellent. Regards. Michaelson

The Steel Beast · Post by **The Steel Beast** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:18 pm

The flower on the top is called a "Mon" and it is the imperial seal of Japan, also it is good that is has it as most were ground off after the war by the US Army, it is worth more with the Mon.

Trebor · Post by **Trebor** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 5:08 am

Buy it. If you don't want it, I'll buy it from you. ( I have a C&R and you could ship it right to me). I don't have a Jap rifle for my WWII collection yet. I've been concentrating on U.S. arms and Russian arms so far.

jkingrph · Post by **jkingrph** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:04 pm

If it's Japanese, an Ariska . It has strange safety, a knurled knob on rear of bolt meant to be turned and engaged by pushing and turning with palm of hand. Some models also had what were called aircraft wings, little metal tabs about 1.25-1.5" long on rear sight which folded out to side, to aid in leading a fast moving aircraft. As far as recoil, most of the milsurps are fairly mild, the guns are heavy and the cartridges not of an intensity like a lot of sporting rounds or mangum cartridges.

Jeff

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:09 pm

The 7.7 isn't bad, but the 6.5 is a joke.

Regards! Michaelson

Gobler · Post by **Gobler** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:42 pm

I thought this thread was long dead. Update...the idiot who had the rifle decided not to sell it but turn it in to the police who crush and grind guns down to scrap.

I really hate Ca...

Cheers,
Jeff

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:47 pm

Well, I hear it made a really nice Toyota when they got the scrap metal back to Japan.

Hate to hear that, Gobler!!

Regards! Michaelson

pigirondan · Post by **pigirondan** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:37 am

Michaelson wrote:The 7.7 isn't bad, but the 6.5 is a joke.

Regards! Michaelson

A bunch of Marines (Happy Birthday) laughed a lot about that, I'm sure.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 10:08 am

Regards! Michaelson

Solo4114 · Post by **Solo4114** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:59 pm

Gobler wrote: I thought this thread was long dead. Update...the idiot who had the rifle decided not to sell it but turn it in to the police who crush and grind guns down to scrap. I really hate Ca...

Cheers,
Jeff

That stinks about the arisaka, but oh well. Look at it this way. Ammunition would've been more difficult/expensive to find than, say, 30-06.

Alan Eardley · Post by **Alan Eardley** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:50 pm

Not that it matters now, but I understand that Italian 6.5mm will chamber and fire. The Arisaka Type 38 was developed from the Mannlicher Modelli 1895 action. The Mannlicher has a bit of cult following in Europe and I understand there are quite a few in the States.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:53 pm

It was a popular 'sporter' model for conversion back in the early 70's...especially for someone who couldn't afford a decent Mauser '98 to sporterize. The Ariska filled the bill quite nicely.

Regards! Michaelson

Marlin_Fan · Post by **Marlin_Fan** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:43 pm

The price of an original WW II Japanese rifle has increased much in the last few years. If you find can find another buy it, clean it, oil it and sell it when you your ready! Michaelson is giving alot really good info. Too bad its not a German 98k bolt action, those would have been used in the Last Crusade.

Magnum Jones · Post by **Magnum Jones** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:30 pm

Price ammo?? the 7.7 I have seen is rare and expensive when I have seen it. Someone may have a good supplier for it but it is pricy the few times I have seen it. A good accurate round good preformance to a .30 cal thats zipps about 3200 fps.

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