Protocol Indy Jacket - New China Made Indy Jacket?

rambam · Post by **rambam** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:14 pm

Hello,

First, let me thank you all for your informative posts. I'm a big fan of Indiana Jones, and have been wanting to get a new leather jacket for awhile. I'm a salesman, and often go from my heated car, through a cold parking lot, to a heated customer site. I wanted a jacket to take the edge off the cold, but not so warm that I need to whip it off as soon as I walk into the customer. Looking good is also important. I've been lurking for awhile, learning about my Indy Jacket options. I'm currently leaning towards a Wested Last Crusade in Authentic Brown with gussets and cotton/acetate lining (think I got all that right?)

I registered because I saw something interesting and wanted the group's opinion. Sportsmansguide is advertising an Indy jacket made by Protocol. Google search finds no other hits for this jacket. Only reference to a company named Protocol I can find is that JCPenney sells leather luggage made by them. What do you all think of this for a jacket under $200 (if you're a member)?

Here's the URL with a zoomable image for checking out details:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=302122

This Lambskin Jacket is the calling card of a clandestine adventurer. Just add your own bullwhip and .455 Webley. 100% antiqued lambskin leather feels so soft and supple, you'd swear it was a veteran of much international intrigue.

Smooth 50/50 nylon / acetate lining
Fold-down point collar
Full zipper with outer storm flap
Waist snap-closure patch pockets with piggybacked handwarmer pockets
Right interior patch security pocket
Straight hem, cuffs
Hand spot clean only.
Imported.

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:22 pm

I think it's a nice looking jacket.
I wonder if it has the action pleats though, it doesn't say.

Regards,
Swindiana

Ripper · Post by **Ripper** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:25 pm

Nice, but I think this is the same jacket US wings is selling for $149.......
Check here.....viewtopic.php?t=19573

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:29 pm

The Jacket looks nice (though I'm not fond of the collar). I haven't had any bad experiences with the Sportsman's Guide, but leather is something I'd rather see in person or have solid word-of-mouth on. That's a personal hang-up, though. My guess, based on the fact that the price isn't insanely low, is that the jacket will be a good one. But I'd still rather get a tried and true Wested.

Chewie

rambam · Post by **rambam** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:20 pm

Well, they have a great return policy. But you gotta pay shipping. I also want Goat, not lamb. Guess I'll stick with the Wested--I'm just having trouble ordering it. They're never around when I phone, their website order form is broken, and they haven't responded to my e-mail yet.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:22 pm

FYI, just as mentioned above, Wings is selling a like jacket, $149, and they do have goatskin in the list.

Regards! Michaelson

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:24 pm

Remember, we are on GMT now! if you phone between 9.30 and 5 you should have no trouble getting through. I've never had trouble getting through during the day.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:27 pm

Good point, KT. We don't know where rambam is located, and that time observation can be a killer when you're trying to make a purchase.

Been there, tried that....got no answer either.

Regard! Michaelson

Indiana Kev · Post by **Indiana Kev** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:40 pm

Here is a good link that gives the time around the world...I used this when I called to order my Wested.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Texas Raider · Post by **Texas Raider** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:08 pm

If you're in Mountain time, the best time to reach Peter at the shop is 3:00 am. Dallas time, 4:00 am . Same with Endicotts

Always works for me! That makes it about 10:00 am their time.

TR

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:12 pm

Why not phone 8am your time and get them mid afternoon?

Serial Hero · Post by **Serial Hero** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:34 pm

It’s more fun to wait up in anticipation of ordering, trying hard not to fall asleep.

That, or your laying there awake, hundreds of questions for Peter and all your order info swimming around in your head. Since your already awake with no chance of falling asleep, you might as well call and place your order. At least you’ll be able to get a couple hours rest.

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:09 pm

KT, I have to agree w/ Serial Hero on this...it's like staying up for midnight on New Year's Eve. If you know you could call tomorrow...or just stay up a little longer...well, I couldn't sleep knowing that. And I didn't, that's why I called them in the wee hours of the morning here too. Far too giddy to sleep.

Some things should not be done in the sobering daylight...

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:14 pm

He did say that he's used to customers phoning up at all sorts of times, I think he'll pick up up to about 8pm but then just diverts the calls to the barn later than that.

Texas Raider · Post by **Texas Raider** » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:18 am

Kt Templar wrote:
Why not phone 8am your time and get them mid afternoon?

You could do that, but if you want to actually catch PETER,,than I've found this is the best time to call. He's normally out,,probably buying skins and such later in the day.

TR

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:01 am

Just received this Jacket yesterday.

The Leather and all the hardware are US Wings. The Lining I am not sure about.

I hope this helps some of you.

PROTCOL (Label States "Made In China")

U.S. WINGS

Cheers,
G-MANN

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:14 pm

Thanks for the pics, GMann. Solves a few mysteries, about BOTH jacket companies.
'Blues

Post by **Michaelson** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:49 pm

Notice the construction of the sleeves. The Protocol has the infamous 3 piece that has been discussed as being on some of the Wings jackets. The Wings clearance Chinese jacket, on the other hand, does not.

My vintage cowhide jacket is constructed like the second photo.

As you can see, some of the assumptions that have been made about these clearance jackets and the way they are made have been incorrect.

Regards! Michaelson

rambam · Post by **rambam** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:42 pm

Is that the USWings clearance jacket?

Can you put a few more pics of the protocol jacket (from behind, etc)?

Post by **Michaelson** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:43 pm

The second photo is one of the Wings clearance jackets.

Regards! Michaelson

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:47 am

Actually the second photo is a regular US Wings. Antique Lambskin.

Cheers,
G-MANN

Post by **Michaelson** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:32 am

WOW!! Even better!!!

Thanks G-MANN!!

Regards! Michaelson

kobol · Post by **kobol** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:17 pm

Hello,
I just received my new Protocol jacket today. I picked it up on Ebay for $114.00 from Sportsman Guide Outlet. It looks just like the pics that G-Mann posted except the color and texture appear closer to his US Wings version. The cleaning instructions tag on the inside all refer to US Wings ("US Wings" was crossed out with grey marker but still visible) and from the looks it appears that the Protocol Tag is sewn over a US Wings tag also.
I must say that the jacket is heavier than I thought for a lambskin. It's certainly weighs more than my goatskin A-2. Maybe it's not lambskin (all the tag says is 100% genuine leather).
Anyway, I don't think I did too bad for spending only $114.00.

Thanks.

Indiana Max · Post by **Indiana Max** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:39 pm

Both are nice jackets, but............ the USWings

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:34 pm

Can you post some photos?
We care for the fit.

kobol · Post by **kobol** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:56 pm

I'll try to post some pics tonight.
For now I copied Texas Raider's measurements from his earlier post on a US Wings Clearance jacket because my "Protocol" size Large approximates those almost exactly.
I just don't know about all the size differences out there these days. Mediums are large, Large are mediums, Large are XL. This jacket is just to hold me over while I save for a Wested and have a tailor fit.

Armpit seam to armpit seam- 25 inches

Shoulder seam to cuff- 24 inches (maybe 24 1/8 max)

Back length, from BASE of collar stand to bottom hem- 26 inches

Protocol Indy Jacket - New China Made Indy Jacket?

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