lee harvey oswald hired by adventurebuilt?

In-depth discussion of the Fedora of Indiana Jones and all other hats appearing in the Indiana Jones movies

Moderators: Indiana Jeff, Dalexs

Post Reply
User avatar
Indiana G
Legendary Adventurer
Legendary Adventurer
Posts: 3918
Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:55 pm
Location: in the Temple of Insanity

lee harvey oswald hired by adventurebuilt?

Post by Indiana G »

greeting guys and gals,

my coworker had an interesting theory of the demise of fedora's/hats in the 60's. as most of you know, a gentlemens hat back then (and prior to that era) was as common in a man's wardrobe as baseball caps today.

his theory is that JFK was the first prominent figure in history that did not usually don a gentlemen's hat. he was a celebrity figure/icon that people respected and wished to emulate and therefore men stopped putting on their lids when they left the house.

what do you guys think? does his theory hold any weight in this forum? should i steal his lunch tomorrow? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Farnham54
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 798
Joined: Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:48 pm
Location: Looking for clever places to re-hide Jess's TomTom

Post by Farnham54 »

1) yessir, that theory does hold water. I've heard it before. I wouldn't blame JFK Soley for it, but I feel it was a large part of it.

2) Steal his lunch anyway, but only the good stuff. Leave him the untasty items. It's the scoundrel thing to do.

Cheers
Craig
User avatar
McFly
Scoundrel
Posts: 3720
Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2004 1:55 pm
Location: DBSSWDD

Post by McFly »

I've also heard that theory and I support it - though like our Canadian friend, I wouldn't give him all the credit.

Steal the lunch.

In Christ,
Shane
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44456
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

JFK hat theory?

Steal lunch?

Those are two questions. :-k

Go directly to the second one......take the food and run!! 8)

Regards! Michaelson
User avatar
Indiana Kev
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 621
Joined: Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:17 pm
Location: Louisiana
Contact:

Post by Indiana Kev »

I have heard the JFK theory...it probably holds some water.

Depends on what the lunch is as to whether I would take it or not
Feraud
Professor of Archaeology
Professor of Archaeology
Posts: 967
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:31 am

Post by Feraud »

There is a fine book called Gentleman Jack: The President, the Fedora, and the History of American Style by Neil Steinberg.
Steinberg discusses the history and demise of fedora wearing throughout the 20th century. Basically the fedora had been on the decline since the early part of the 20the century. I believe the author traces a noticable decline in the early teens or 20's culminating with the frantic actions of hat manufacturers to get a fedora on Kennedy by "any means necessary".
Kennedy's vanity put the nail in the coffin. We should recognize Kennedy disliked wearing hats but did, even at his inauguration wear one. It was a top-hat of all things!

See this article for additional information.
User avatar
Captain Ron Solo
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 442
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:52 am
Location: Houston, Texas

Post by Captain Ron Solo »

It's a shame that the fedora, a functional piece of attire, would fall out of fashion after so many decades of prevalence, yet we're still stuck with the ****** neck tie! :?

JKL
Ron
User avatar
GoneSolo
Laboratory Technician
Laboratory Technician
Posts: 173
Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:52 pm
Location: loaded on a truck, headed for cairo

Post by GoneSolo »

Now all we need is for the next POTUS to show up wearing a fed during their inaugural ceremony.
Daniel-Jackson
Dig Worker
Dig Worker
Posts: 14
Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:24 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Post by Daniel-Jackson »

For sure....George W wont be wearing one any soon. And if he did....so wrong! :twisted:
User avatar
Captain Ron Solo
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 442
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:52 am
Location: Houston, Texas

Post by Captain Ron Solo »

Nah. Being a Texas good ol' boy, he'd be more apt to show up somewhere in a ten-gallon. :)

JKL
Ron
Last edited by Captain Ron Solo on Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Mike
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 9663
Joined: Wed Jul 03, 2002 7:34 pm
Contact:

Post by Mike »

Careful, lets not turn this political.
User avatar
Captain Ron Solo
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 442
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:52 am
Location: Houston, Texas

Post by Captain Ron Solo »

My apologies. Withdrawn. The court reporter will strike the last statement. :) :-#

JKL
Ron
User avatar
Fedoraman
Archaeologist
Archaeologist
Posts: 225
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2004 2:32 pm
Location: Hanging off the edge of a cliff...

Post by Fedoraman »

Not to be political, but what would the reaction be if the next President did wear a fedora?

Would people start wearing them widely again?

Personally, I believe that pop-culture would be that inspiration for a rise in fedora popularity. Have a few more blockbuster films of guys wearing sharp lids and people will start wearing them again. Our hero was directly responsible for this in the 80's. Even now, would you be wearing a fedora if there had been no Indy? I know that I wouldn't be... :-k
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44456
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

From past reading, the Secret Service really frowns on the President wearing a hat now.... that is, unless ALL of the folks around him wear one, as it identifies him in a crowd. Should someone want to do him harm, they can find him immediately by the hat.

THAT'S why LBJ's folks always wore Open Roads around him when he was traveling, as it confused folks as to who the President was. As tall as LBJ was, I'm not sure how well that worked, but that was the reasoning.

Regard! Michaelson
User avatar
Indiana G
Legendary Adventurer
Legendary Adventurer
Posts: 3918
Joined: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:55 pm
Location: in the Temple of Insanity

Post by Indiana G »

HA HA!

i stole his lunch.....he wasn't too impressed so i smudged out his reaction there........

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m212 ... CT0896.jpg
User avatar
Michaelson
Knower of Things
Posts: 44456
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:55 pm
Location: Out here knowing stuff and things and wishing I were with the family at Universal Studios Orlando

Post by Michaelson »

Nah. He was just saying you were 'number 1' in his book, that's all. :lol:

Regards! Michalson
User avatar
Flattery
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 643
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:11 am
Location: Colorado

Post by Flattery »

There is a fine book called Gentleman Jack: The President, the Fedora, and the History of American Style by Neil Steinberg.
Steinberg discusses the history and demise of fedora wearing throughout the 20th century. Basically the fedora had been on the decline since the early part of the 20the century. I believe the author traces a noticable decline in the early teens or 20's culminating with the frantic actions of hat manufacturers to get a fedora on Kennedy by "any means necessary".
Kennedy's vanity put the nail in the coffin. We should recognize Kennedy disliked wearing hats but did, even at his inauguration wear one. It was a top-hat of all things!
I highly recommend this book -- I believe everyone here would find it extremely edifying.
JPdesign
Vendor
Posts: 166
Joined: Sat Jul 06, 2002 2:45 am
Location: Hutto, Texas
Contact:

Post by JPdesign »

Guys, Kennedy almost always wore hats. He was just almost never photographed in the. He wore them to keep the sun off his fair complection, and to keep his hair from being windblown before photos were taken. He would remove his hat for photos and speaches, and then put it back on. In many of the pictures I have seen he has his hat in his hands. And yes, at the end of the forties the wearing of hats was in a nose dive. Younger men returning from the war just didn't bother to wear them. Between the beatle, Elvis, television in general(it was pretty new),and JFK in the early 60's, hairstyles became more a part of a person's look. If your hairstyle is a part of your look, and you are spending good money on it, which most men were doing for the first time, why would you cover it up. There were many factors, JFK just gets most of the credit.

Jimmy
Fedora
Legendary Adventurer
Legendary Adventurer
Posts: 3795
Joined: Sat Jul 06, 2002 5:44 pm

Post by Fedora »

Guys, Kennedy almost always wore hats. He was just almost never photographed in the. He wore them to keep the sun off his fair complection, and to keep his hair from being windblown before photos were taken. He would remove his hat for photos and speaches, and then put it back on. In many of the pictures I have seen he has his hat in his hands. And yes, at the end of the forties the wearing of hats was in a nose dive. Younger men returning from the war just didn't bother to wear them. Between the beatle, Elvis, television in general(it was pretty new),and JFK in the early 60's, hairstyles became more a part of a person's look. If your hairstyle is a part of your look, and you are spending good money on it, which most men were doing for the first time, why would you cover it up. There were many factors, JFK just gets most of the credit.

Jimmy

I agree. Hats were already in a nose dive, that started even before WW2. Or so the Henderson books says. JFK and the longer hair of the 60's may have been the coffin nail. Hair dressing went out as well during this time. Fedora
User avatar
prairiejones
Dig Leader
Dig Leader
Posts: 651
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:01 pm
Location: In the damp jungles of Peru, drinking Dewar's with Pagey.

Post by prairiejones »

Image

Nuff said.
Post Reply