Lambskin & Pecards

Tyrloch · Post by **Tyrloch** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:19 am

Hi,

I thought I read on here one time that the best thing to use on lambskin was the leather lotion, but is there any reason why you should use either the regular Pecards or the leather jell? The main reason I ask is because all I have at the moment is the latter 2, but if the lotion is the ONLY one you should use, then I'll have to order some...

~Jace

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:29 am

If, and ONLY if you do the following.....put a VERY VERY VERY (did you notice I said VERY?

) light, and DO mean light coating of standard dressing or jell on lambskin.....allow it to soak overnight, then buff it with a clean, dry cloth....it will work.

Lambskin is a VERY tight grained leather, and if you cross the line on application of standard dressing...you'll find yourself sitting (as many have) with a hair dryer and cloth trying to pull the excess Pecards out of the leather, as it will remain tacky. Other leathers are larger grained, and Pecards soads WAY in, but no on lambskin.

Lotion, on the other hand, is water soluable, and goes straight into lambskin, whichis why it's the one most advised when it comes to that hide.
BUT, that said, if you follow what I've said above...and I DO mean light application, you're good to go.

Regards! Michaelson

Tyrloch · Post by **Tyrloch** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:32 am

Michaelson,

So, what are you saying -- only use a little bit?

Just kidding! Okay, thanks. I think I'll try it tonight...

~Jace

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:33 am

Little bit of what?

HIGH regards! Michaelson

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:54 pm

Where does one get Picard's lotion? Or Picard's stuff in general?
C

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:02 pm

Read the 'stickie' at the top of this section about 'Pecards products'.

Regards! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:13 pm

Oh wow, Pecard just got a brand spanking new online store. http://pecard.com/shop/

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:15 pm

I knew they were upgrading the site. Things were put on hold when the owner died, though.

Glad to see they got it off the ground.

Regards! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:17 pm

The Pecard Site wrote:Remember, like all Pecard products, the Classic Leather Dressing is made without environmentally harmful fluorocarbons, so users can stay dry without contributing to ozone depletion and global warming.

LOL.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:43 pm

Can you prove otherwise? Do you know something about Pecards manufacturing process that we don't, VP? Considering it's a federal offense for them to post mis-information regarding chemical processes in the U. S. (and would be down right dumb for them to do so on a world wide web accessable site, created by themselves, no less), I'm curious what prompted this response?

Regards! Michaelson

rikitiki · Post by **rikitiki** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:39 pm

I've used Lexol with good results though it may darken the leather. Can anyone compare Lexol with Pecard's Lotion for use on lambskin?

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:00 am

Lexol is a very close comparsion to Pecards lotion, and was what I used when I ran out of Letaps, and before I found Pecards.

Regards! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:12 am

Michaelson wrote:Can you prove otherwise? Do you know something about Pecards manufacturing process that we don't, VP? Considering it's a federal offense for them to post mis-information regarding chemical processes in the U. S. (and would be down right dumb for them to do so on a world wide web accessable site, created by themselves, no less), I'm curious what prompted this response?

No, I just found it funny that they mention it at all. I personally couldn't care less if it was environmentally harmful or not as long as it works.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:57 am

Understood.

The problem we have over here in the U.S. is that the day of 'snake oil sales' is alive and well on the internet. Unfortunately, there ARE a LOT of companies that make chemical concoctions that are full of these flurocarbons and the like, and don't reveal that information, as they're not REQUIRED to do so unless it's at a certain percentage in content.

Pecards, on the other hand, reveals all the information, as they do cater to not only the leather crazies like us, but the earth friendly crowds that completely stear away from products that DON'T state plainly these chemicals exist in their product offerings.

Regards! Michaelson

soulman · Post by **soulman** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:21 pm

What Lexol products are best for the care of Lamb? I just picked up a Wested and want to be sure I properly care for it.
Blue Skies,
Soulman

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:23 pm

Lexol conditioner/cleaner lotion. You can find it in most auto parts stores, as it's specifically formuated for leather car interiors. It's great, as it also sheilds the leather from sun damage, so you're getting a lot of 'bang' for your buck.

Regards! Michaelson

soulman · Post by **soulman** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:30 pm

Cool

Thanks a bunch!

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:15 pm

OK,I found the sticky on Pecard's. I have one lambskin jacket, so would a single 4 oz container of lotion hold me for a while?
CJ

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:17 pm

Yep, but of course it depends on how often you have to apply the dressing. I usually only have to do it once a year myself, so a 4 oz. container lasts and lasts.

Regards! Michaelson

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:07 pm

Cool.
CJ

Ozraptor · Post by **Ozraptor** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:51 pm

I just put Pecard's standard dressing on my Wested seal brown lambskin, in a very thin layer—it seems to have soaked up most of it since this morning, although it's kinda slippery (going to wait until tomorrow morning before I buff it off).

Is there any logic in using Lexol/Pecards Lotion/Letaps directly after? Will it enhance the protection, or serve no useful effect? I get the impression that Pecard's standard dressing doesn't soak into lamb all the way.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:08 pm

No useful purpose at all, no.

Pecards is a beeswax based product, and Lexol/Letaps is a water based product. It will just lay on the surface and be removed once you buff the jacket.

Regards! Michaelson

Ozraptor · Post by **Ozraptor** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:30 pm

So next time, lotion first, then dressing? Or is that overkill too?

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:32 pm

Well, it's one of those decisions you have to make to use one or the other on your jacket....NOT both.

You might want to read Eric's information and decide the best route to go. Eric (Leather_Loco) is VP of research at Pecards, by the way. It gives a very good description and differences between the lotion products and standard Pecards dressing.

viewtopic.php?t=7211

Regards! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:21 pm

Michaelson wrote:Eric (Leather_Loco) is VP of research at Pecards

And I'm the VP of search at COW.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:29 pm

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana Blooze · Post by **Indiana Blooze** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:44 pm

Just saw this thread so I'll add my .02. I use standard Pecards on my Wested lambskin. I use just enough to put a sheen on the surface. After about 2 days, it is just about all soaked in. Any that remains, is easily buffed out. Don't apply more, or put on a second application or else............(this is my Michae........er, experience speaking)

Indiana Jess · Post by **Indiana Jess** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:08 pm

Won't long term use of the cream (beeswax) add weight to the jackets moreso than the lotion?

I don't know why, but I was thinking sheepskin instead of lambskin. Is there an problems using the lotion on sheepskin?

VP, don't forget the .php as the end of that link. Otherwise you'll get nowhere.

http://www.pecard.com/store.php/

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:08 pm

Yep, after a while, the jacket will become physically heavier with the addition of the present beeswax.

Not sure I'd try any of the dressings, lotion or otherwise, on sheepskin, Jess. I think it's a dry tanned leather, and won't take kindly to that product.

Drop Eric a line and ask him!

Regard! Michaelson

Ozraptor · Post by **Ozraptor** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:28 pm

The label on the inside of my Wested actually says sheepskin.

How long should I wait before doing another dressing? A week too short a time? It dried out pretty seriously when I put it through the drier.

VP · Post by VP » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:42 am

Indiana Jess wrote:VP, don't forget the .php as the end of that link. Otherwise you'll get nowhere.

Hey, I posted that link almost 14 months ago.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:00 am

Ozraptor wrote:The label on the inside of my Wested actually says sheepskin.

What kind of Wested jacket do you have, my friend? I'm not aware of any Indy jackets being made out of sheepskin.

Regards! Michaelson

Ozraptor · Post by **Ozraptor** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:32 am

A Last Crusade! I assumed it actually meant lambskin. Obviously it's tanned, and not fluffy on the inside

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:34 am

Well, rest assured, unless you specifically requested 'sheepskin', it's made of lambskin. Sheepskin is from an older animal, and usually tanned to a pretty dry final product. Heavier material too.

Regards! Michaelson

JulianK · Post by **JulianK** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:15 pm

Yep, but of course it depends on how often you have to apply the dressing. I usually only have to do it once a year myself, so a 4 oz. container lasts and lasts.

Bear in mind however that once you've discovered this stuff you'll end up using it on your other leathers so it might be worthwhile to stock up.