ALL THE JACKETS YOU CAN DREAM OF

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:15 pm

*Read update at bottom of this post. - COW administration.*

Now that everybody speaks about TODD's new jacket I thought to remind you guys of all the jackets offerings that are currently available with prices for comparison. Prices do not include shipping.

The Indyjacket by Wested Leather Co. (Made in UK)
http://www.indyjacket.co.uk/

Offered in 3 models, The Raiders, Temple of Doom and Last Crusade and in a choice of leathers from authentic lamb, dark lamb, authentic goat, dark goat, cowhide, predistressed cowhide, horse hide. Price $281.5 or custom from $320.4

The Expedition Jacket by Flightsuits (ex Gibson & Barnes) (Made in USA)
http://www.flightsuits.com/leather_expedition.html

Available in lambskin, dark brown lambskin, goat skin, dark brown goatskin. Price Lambskin $468 goatskin $448

The Indy Jones Jacket by US Wings (ex Cooper Jacket) (Made in USA)
http://www.uswings.com/aviatn.asp

Offered in goatskin, lambskin, vintage cowhide, cowhide, goatskin, kangaroo. Prices from $297 to $458

The Indy Jacket by US Authentic MFG Company (Flightjacket) (Made in USA)
http://www.flightjacket.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=9

Made of vintage goatskin. Price $425

The Indiana Jones Style Leather Jacket by Leather Attractions (Made in ???)
http://www.leatherattractions.com/india ... jacket.htm

(Moderator edit: The picture was a photoshoped hijack from the Wested site, so it has been removed.)

Available in "100% genuine soft lambskin"
Price $138

*WARNING*
It has to be mentioned here that the Leather Attractions jacket is a very cheap and low quality substitute of an Indiana Jones jacket. Even the photo used to advertise it on their website is the original Wested photo modified and used without permission. This vendor has been contacted by Wested and fellow members regarding this discrepancy but their response was so far negative. The writer and every member of this forum strongly deter anyone from buying this jacket because of its unacceptable quality and suspected fraudulent activity on the part of its vendors. So, unless you are looking for a Halloween costume jacket that you will throw away the next day after the party is over, avoid this jacket by all means.

The Indiana Jones Jacket by San Diego Leather (Made in USA)
http://www.leather.com/aviation/indy.htm

Available in cow and goat. Price $235, $275

Note: This jacket has the side straps facing backwards.

The Indiana Jones (Indy) Jacket by Passagen (Made in ???)
http://hem.passagen.se/satrade/eng/indy.html

Available in vintage brown goatskin. Price $425

The jacket modeled after Raiders of the Lost Ark by Leathers by Merry Terry (Made in USA)
http://www.leathersbymaryterry.com/

Price: $call

The Indiana Jones Style Jacket by Todd Costumes (Made in USA)
http://www.toddscostumes.com/indy/jacke ... ackets.htm

Made in USA. Available in Lambskin and other leathers.
Price: $149.95 or $499 for custom made.

High-Style Protocol Antiqued Lambskin Jacket
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=302122#

Available in antiqued lambskin.
Price $229.97

The Magnoli Clothiers 'Adventure' Jacket (Made in ???)
http://magnolic.ipower.com/catalog/prod ... 68f825b3ca

Available in dark brown lambskin. Other leathers and colors available on request.
Price $365

The Hidesign Jacket (Made in ????)
http://www.hidesign.com/

Price about 300 euro

Please note that there are a few other jackets that are now obsolete and that's why they are not included in the list of available jackets. Some of them are, the Disney jacket, the Indiana Jones fan club jacket, the US Authentic Indy original design jacket and others.

I will be updating this post with reviews and photos so stay tuned.

MODERATOR EDIT: KEEP IN MIND THAT ANY PRICES LISTED ABOVE OF JACKETS THAT ARE IMPORTED INTO THE U.S. FROM OVERSEAS, SUCH AS WESTED, ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE DUE TO FLUCTUATING USD TO POUND STERLING EXCHANGE RATE. PRICES SHOWN ABOVE ARE BASED ON THE PRICES IN FEBRUARY 2008. ALWAYS CHECK PRICE WITH VENDOR BEFORE ORDERING AS PRICES MAY CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE. WRITER ACCEPTS NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR PRICE DIFFERENTIALS.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:19 pm

Forgot to post the link to the Mary Terry jacket.
It's http://www.leathersbymaryterry.com/leathers25.htm

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:23 pm

deffinatly remove
Leather Attractions,
that site is completely fake.

Notice the photoshoped wested picture.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:24 pm

It doesn't matter. You can still buy it for $128.

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:08 pm

Why would you buy the item from a theif? The image they are using is obviously not representative of the jacket they are offering, as they stole Wested's picture and photoshopped a face with a dunce cap on to it.

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:16 pm

Strider wrote:Why would you buy the item from a theif?

Because it's such a good deal.

That's what most people say. Usually, if a deal sounds too good to be true, it probably isn't true.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:58 am

I need about 10 volunteers to pay $12.8 each into a paypal account operated by the admin of this forum and let's buy one of these jackets to review it.

What do you think?

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:10 am

I think I wouldn't buy a jacket from someone who stole an image from Wested and tried to pass it off as their own. You're missing the point here, man. You don't know what you're getting. Why on earth would anyone spend any amount of money for that? I could get a bunch of comics for that 13$. No, I'll save my money for other things, rather than rolling the dice on something I've got no clue about.

On top of that, who would get the jacket? Classic clam bake waiting to happen.

"If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is (too good to be true)."

Tyrloch · Post by **Tyrloch** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:01 am

One word: Raffle! That's how you pay for the jacket as well as decide who gets it -- assuming that you actually receive a jacket after paying for it.

~Jace

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:39 am

PLATON wrote:I need about 10 volunteers to pay $12.8 each into a paypal account operated by the admin of this forum and let's buy one of these jackets to review it.

What do you think?

Tell you what....why don't YOU step up to the plate, put down YOUR hard earned money to buy one, then YOU review it?

That's what I've been doing for years with items that we needed a review about.....The item was then given to someone who couldn't afford one.

Regards. Michaelson

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:05 am

You misunderstood me.
I said VOLUNTEERS.
I am one.
I will put my 10 bucks in the bucket.
I also said that the admin review it.
YOU guys will receive/review/keep it, NOT me.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:07 am

PLATON wrote:You misunderstood me.
I said VOLUNTEERS.
I am one.
I will put my 10 bucks in the bucket.
I also said that the admin review it.
YOU guys will receive/review/keep it, NOT me.

No, I understood. Personally I'll pass on this one myself.

Regards! Michaelson

Shawnkara · Post by **Shawnkara** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:53 am

Somewhere around here, somebody did post photos of the actual "leather Attractions" jacket. It looked like it was made from upholstery vinyl, and the shoulders had inverted seams, like a suit jacket.

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:14 pm

Shawnkara wrote:It looked like it was made from upholstery vinyl, and the shoulders had inverted seams, like a suit jacket.

*shudder* I can't imagine the jacket would be anything but junk, since they won't post a real pic, AND that price reflects it.
'Blues

Bjones · Post by **Bjones** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:30 pm

I think everyone missed the point, or at least isn't entertaining the one item contained within. He merely put it there as one of the available options. Just because we know its horrible doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Its painfully obvious no one from this board would buy it for any reason, but some poor schmuck out there might.

Shawnkara · Post by **Shawnkara** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 7:09 am

Bjones,
That was sort of our point. SOMEONE might buy one, and I'd hate to think anyone here had steered them toward it. That's why I don't think it should be in there, it should just be the legitimate vendors. This company used a photo from someone elses's site, period. So, who's to say that jacket actually does exist. Yes, there are photos of one someplace. That doesn't prove much. It proves they made ONE jacket, very BADLY. AND thier using photos of someone else's product to advertise/sell it. I could claim to be offering my own hand-made version of Aldens, but if all I had as proof was a stock photo I clearly took from the Alden website, what would that say? You're right, most people here realize it's a total joke, that company. But we're getting new members in here all the time. Some are really young, with little money to spend and must spend it wisely. I would hate to see anybody drawn to this fictional jacket because of the price, get ripped off and have the hobby ruined for them.

Didn't mean to go off on a rant there

But this same thing happens to me quite often with my work, and it's d@mned infuriating.

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 10:40 am

Guys,

I sent a PM to Platon about the jacket in question. He must have not gotten it yet.

Anyways...

Back last year when I was looking for a Indy jacket at a good price I found the Leather Attractions site. Thankfully being a member here already let me spot that the pic and jacket were from Wested's site and they just "photoshoped" a models face on the "Indy Dummy". I wrote them an e-mail and they sent me real pics of the jacket. I posted them here at the time but since then I moved stuff around and I can't find them on my computer. If I do I'll send them over.

I wouldn't recommend it and the description from Shawnkara is pretty much spot on.

Hope I steered someone clear of making a mistake.

Pitfall

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:09 am

I remember when you did that, Pitfall.

I, too, emailed them, and received several email replies, but unlike you, NEVER received any photos or samples that I requested....so I believe they got nervous when they got more than one inquiry at the same time.

Regards! Michaelson

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:30 am

Michaelson wrote:I remember when you did that, Pitfall.

I, too, emailed them, and received several email replies, but unlike you, NEVER received any photos or samples that I requested....so I believe they got nervous when they got more than one inquiry at the same time.

Regards! Michaelson

Yeah,

I think we did send them at the same time if I recall. I remember acting very interested in the e-mail and didn't say anything about being an Indiana Jones fan. That might have been why they sent me pics. I know people have had similar luck with the HJ shop when they've gone in to look at the Poet.

I've been looking through all of my stuff and I think after I ordered my Wested I just deleted them.

The jacket was very "puffy" looking and the lining looked almost like something you'd seen in those flanel shirt jackets they sell in the winter.

I'm sure it's a decent "regular" leather jacket I just wouldn't place it in the same catagory as the ones above.

You've got to wonder about the craftsmenship when they use a photo "borrowed" from another site to promote their jacket.

VP · Post by VP » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:01 pm

Yay, Pitfall is back.

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:42 pm

I thought everyone knew I was out traveling through the jungle. Canyon even took a pic.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:43 pm

Canyon with Photoshop....very dangerous......you go first.....

Regard! Michaelson

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:16 pm

Yeah, you guys better watch out because before you know it she'll have you running from a boulder or dodging posion darts!

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:34 pm

The Toddscostumes version looks quite appealing - I like the wrinked look of the leather in the sample posted.

Canyon · Post by **Canyon** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:17 pm

I just saw this thread.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:30 pm

Took ya long enough, gal!!

Regards! Michaelson

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:52 pm

Your discription of the Leather Attractions jacket fits with the pic they sent me through the e-mail back when I was looking for a good but cheap Indy jacket.

It looked "puffy" as well on the model and I believe that had to do with the flannel lining you described.

This only confirms what I thought after receiving the pic and I would advise new people on here to heed your warning as well.

Save your money up and get a Wested, it's the best option out there.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:54 pm

i wholeheartedly agree. wested is no. 1 for the indy jacket......maybe not so much for that harry manequinn they got up there because his hat is 3 sizes too big......but d&mn they make an awesome jacket!

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:16 am

Thanks, Platon for the post. Not sure if anyone has done an updated jacket list in the past 5 years as it should be on the main page. Hint, hint, mods.

Just bustin' your bells a bit.

this should be a safe place to gather info, share informed opinions, and make choices about how to spend one's money.

That is the absolute bottom line. No doubt about it. I too think that the Leather Attractions link should be removed. For cripes sake, they can't even take their own pics! It's one thing if they wanna make a @#$% jacket and try to sell it but to steal the pics from Chris King, Wested and then doctor them...well...they would have spent less time taking their own pics instead of stealing and doing an entry level photoshop to it to try to sell their product. It's just bad business from the start and it is my personal opinion that they don't belong here where the good majority of people are decent and honest.

LA is only about 45 minutes from me. I may have to pay them a visit someday.

PETER · Post by **PETER** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:30 am

Hey Platon. Why have you posted the cost of our Wested jacket at $321 when it is only £145 sterling which x 1.91 is $276.95. even if you include postage from UK to USA it is only $315. You have overpriced us by $45.
can you change your posting.
Cheers
Peter

orb · Post by **orb** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:40 am

May Platon has also included the customs duty.

Greets

orb

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:40 am

He posted this post in September, Peter, so that was probably the going price in USD to Pound Sterling exchange rate. (just guessing though)
A statement has been inserted to the original post to reflect your concerns.

Regards! Michaelson

PETER · Post by **PETER** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:17 am

In September the dollar was 1.85 making the price $268. which is why I put the $ at approx $275 for a jacket.
As for import duty how many pay that and is that not similar to USA sales tax?
That is not my real problem which is people giving me order with a list of extras which I do not offer as an option.
Those modified spec jackets will have a starting price of £165 and I do not garantee to do all the spec items but will quote what and how much can be done and cost. These really take time and time is money.
Cheers
Peter

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:29 pm

I would leave the Leather Attractions there just to show how bad it is. Otherwise, you will get posts every six months from a new member who has found a "new" jacket for our viewing pleasure. Why not leave it here for what it is. A mess... Then people can still use the "search" function and get all the dirt on this catastrophe.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:46 pm

All the prices should be split into the different price bands that they come at, should also have the separate cost for shipping, and note that tax may also be applicable etc.

In the case of Wested the 2 bands are £145/US$283.65 and £165/US$322.77 (£10/US$19.56 surcharge for Horse).

Larger sizes are quoted as more but I've not heard of larger folk being particularly singled out.

Shipping Europe, US, Canada: £20/US$39.12 (£35/US$68.47 Australasia).

As of writing the exchange rate is 1:1.956 (WOW!)

Be aware that you may be charged import duty if purchasing outside of Europe, but the amount that would be would be a similar amount to the sales tax you would pay on domestic goods anyway.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:24 pm

Perhaps, the bottom line is quite important to most people - I know it is to me.

Maybe a $, $$, $$$, $$$$ like they have at the end of restaurant reviews then?

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:27 pm

Not bad!

Regards! Michaelson

Garzo · Post by **Garzo** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:56 am

I quite like the Leathers by Merry Terry jacket. Does anyone on COW own one or have there been any reviews of it?

Garzo · Post by **Garzo** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:35 am

_ wrote:
Garzo wrote:I quite like the Leathers by Merry Terry jacket. Does anyone on COW own one or have there been any reviews of it?
Somebody sent me some leather samples from various vendors, and I believe there was a sample included from Merry Terry (had not heard of them before that...)...

It was black and I think it was embossed cowhide. I don't usually like embossed leathers, but this was nice stuff. Extremely soft. Wish I had a sample in brown...

Cowhide -- that explains its differnet look. It looks thicker than the others -- and exactly like what it is -- an Indy-style biker jacket. Looks tough. I like it.

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:50 pm

Peter says the jacket costs only $315
However, if you check his website you will see that it costs $312.86
http://www.ekmpowershop4.com/ekmps/shop ... rymethod=2

That's even cheaper than the $315.

The $321 was my mispelling of the $312.

I apologize to Peter and to the members of this forum for posting the price incorrectly.

DeWayne · Post by **DeWayne** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 5:01 am

The Terry jacket is something I had her make based off of photos for the most part. It was back before I knew you could order from Wested (before I was on the 'net). In fact, I found out about Wested while I had her putting that together. Nice jacket, but not accurate to any of the movie jackets.

Always a shock to find a picture of myself online!

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:24 am

Just added the Magnoli jacket, see above.
Will come back later to add the Hidesign jacket as soon as I take some photos of it.

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:51 am

I still say that you should take the Leather Attractions pic and info OUT of the list! We've already established that they stole pics from Wested and Chris King w/o permission and we already had reviews that the jacket is nothing less than poorly stiched @#$%.

Do you really want to leave them as an option to a newbie (or anyone for that matter) who may take the wrong path and waste money on a company who we know steals and puts out a bad product? It seems the exact opposite of how almost all members here conduct themselves.

All the other offerings have been fruitful to our members in one way or another or have a solid rep among members here and elsewhere...except Leather Attractions. I fully understand you want a comprehensive list but they just don't belong here.

PLEASE remove them.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:55 am

I agree 100% with agent5. That's sending a newbie down a blind alley, and lining the pockets of individuals known to have stolen images, and who have ignored requests to change their ways.

If you do that, we'll clear out all the extra discussion regarding said jacket and clean things up to make this read a lot easier.

Once Todd's jacket becomes available (and final version seen), you'll want to edit your list as well to show the real production jacket.

Regards! Michaelson

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:59 am

Well, I appreciate your comments. We should all exercise due dilligence to protect newbies from any pitfalls.

The leather attraction jacket belongs in the list since it is an offering.
However, very soon, I am going to write a small review on each of the listed jackets that will serve as a Buyer's Guide for our newbies.

In that review, I will stongly refrain anyone from buying the said jacket. I trust this will help.

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:01 am

Well, I do understand your point, and well taken. Maybe you need to add a disclaimer in the jacket description stating what we DO know about this vendor, then, as stated above, we can clean up this string so it's easier to follow.

Just a word to the wise, be VERY careful about writing 'reviews' about a gear item. Yours will be subjective, and others may have a completely different point of view. The best thing to do is just write a description with no opinions stated, and let the reader just use the information to compare items. That way no one gets bent out of shape that their favorite didn't get a favorable review. Also, state all information posted is yours and yours alone, and not that of the administration or webmaster of COW. That way you don't ruffle the feathers of the administrator.

It was also made a 'stickie' for the time being, so folks can find it easier.

Regards! Michaelson

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:17 am

Michaelson, thanks for your message. I had that in mind too.
The review will be restricted strictly to facts we all know about the jackets.
There will not be any personal opinions, just the undoubtful facts.

If anyone would like to cooperate on the editing this posting to achieve a better result feel free to contact me at platon@stardust-records.com

Andy Inna · Post by **Andy Inna** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:59 pm

I can't speak to the quality of the jacket or the vendor, but I just stumbled across the Protocol jacket listed above, currently available for $110 from Bargain Outfitters.

marco polo · Post by **marco polo** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:15 am

Michaelson wrote:Well, I do understand your point, and well taken. Maybe you need to add a disclaimer in the jacket description stating what we DO know about this vendor, then, as stated above, we can clean up this string so it's easier to follow.

Just a word to the wise, be VERY careful about writing 'reviews' about a gear item. Yours will be subjective, and others may have a completely different point of view. The best thing to do is just write a description with no opinions stated, and let the reader just use the information to compare items. That way no one gets bent out of shape that their favorite didn't get a favorable review. Also, state all information posted is yours and yours alone, and not that of the administration or webmaster of COW. That way you don't ruffle the feathers of the administrator.

It was also made a 'stickie' for the time being, so folks can find it easier.

Regards! Michaelson

I remember posting about Leather Attractions way back in September

2005 and the good people here steered me clear . Saved me a little

cash

Mystique · Post by **Mystique** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:30 am

CAVEAT EMPTOR!!!!!!!!

ALL THE JACKETS YOU CAN DREAM OF

ALL THE JACKETS YOU CAN DREAM OF

TWO WORDS