Cec Henderson, name plaiting, Zorro whip, etc. Lots O'Pics!

[midwestwhips]

Well first off a Warning, there's a lot of pics!!!

First off is a pair of Russel Schultze stockwhips that Ben Hughes had at the convention which I liked a lot, short, 3 and a half footers.



I was somewhat inspired by these whips to make myself a pair of short whips based off of them. So I did when I got home. The Schultze whips were 8 plait, and I started out that way with the thongs, but when I went to do the handles I went a little over the top and did 24 plait 2 tone handles with my initiails plaited in the handles, a birds eye pattern, and the year 06' plaited in them.













Next up is one of my favorite Cecil Henderson whips that was made sometime around World War Two. It is a 48 plait handle. One of the things that I really like about Henderson whips is the fancy high plait handles that are simple and elegant, and not gaudy with too many patterns. Here's a couple pics of the handle.







Well, I couldn't get this whip out of my head when I got the pics in on Sunday and I went a bit nuts and worked straight through making a somewhat copy of the handle in 48 plait for practice, and here are a couple pics of that. Sorry the color isn't great in the pics.





I also took a couple pictures for comparison between 24 plait on the top, 36 plait in the middle and the 48 plait on the bottom. The 48 plait strands were around 1mm wide some slightly less some slightly more.



The next pic is of a Henderson thong that is almost Identical to the thong that came on the 48 plait Henderson. But this one is 2 tone and 10 foot long 24 plait. It's owned by Steve Brackman, and I believe the twisted handle wasn't the original handle to the whip, but there it's hard to confirm that. Beautiful work though, and quite old, and I am lucky enough to have it sitting here in front of me to study.



And finally I recieved today two whips that I bought from Alex Green. The first here is the Zorro Whip( the first prototype of the Alex Green Bullwhip). It was used in the movie "The Mask of Zorro" by Sir Anthony Hopkins to put out the candles in the candleabara. It was also used to teach Sir Anthony Hopkins, Antonio Bandares, and I believe a couple other Hollywood stars to crack whips. And one of Alex's personal whips. I am very proud and excited to own this whip in my collection.







Along with this whip I also purchased a whip that Alex used in the Sci-Fi television show Andromeda. It is a 4 foot bullwhip that was dyed Red and there was some paint used on the handle. I haven't seen the episode and I didn't know much about this whip before it arrived today. But as I was looking at it, I was trying to figure out who made it, as the work looked oddly familiar. I then noticed something about how the whip was made which was something only I do, and I relized that I made this whip!!! I was extreemely excited and Surprised!!! I didn't recognize it at first because it was dyed red. But it is a whip I made for Western Stage Props that was purchased by the people from Andromeda, dressed up as a prop and used by Alex Green in the Show! Needles to say, I thought that was too cool!.





I thought I'd share this stuff with everyone. It's been a busy month!

Regards,

Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips

[winrichwhips]

That 48-plait handle, Paul, there aren't enough expletives in the world for me to express how impressed and excited for you I am. Now you have to make the thong to put on that handle.

Also, you making that handle gives me hope that I could make something similar. I think I just might have to. I really have to.

Now, with the Andromeda whip, I think that's f-----! hilarious that you bought back one of your own whips. Though, it's cool that it was in a television show.

-Adam

[Ripper]

That 48 plait is insane....awesome! Ill bet it is tedious work to produce something like that. I love it!

[thefish]

Didn't Alex throw the Andromeda whip in with the Zorro one, Paul? It's nice to see you finally got them. You'd just finalized stuff when I saw you at Annie Oakley.

48 plait? Woah! That's beautiful! And I agree. Doing it 2 or 3 tone would have been gaudy. I like the single color. Subtle. Elegent.

-Dan

[jabahutt70]

Awesome pics, Paul! As Adam said, that's too funny that you bought back one of your own whips, but really sweet, too! I'm curious, what exactly did you notice on the whip that made you realize that you made it? And the 48 plaits....wow!

Steve.

[racerx]

Paul,
thanks for the amazing pictures, would you happend to know what the weight of the falls are on the Russel Schultze stockwhips? Just curious, I've never seen falls cut like that for stockwhips, nice.


Like Adam said, now you just got to make the thong for that beautiful Cecil stock, I mean Paul N stock , really awesome.

That is a wonderful surprize , that another one of your creations were used in film, and now its made its way back to you,
sweet!




Thanks again for the pic's


ATB

Jim J.

[midwestwhips]

That 48-plait handle, Paul, there aren't enough expletives in the world for me to express how impressed and excited for you I am. Now you have to make the thong to put on that handle.

Also, you making that handle gives me hope that I could make something similar. I think I just might have to. I really have to.

Now, with the Andromeda whip, I think that's f-----! hilarious that you bought back one of your own whips. Though, it's cool that it was in a television show.

-Adam

Hey Adam,

Thanks! That mean's a lot! I can't wait to do the thong, especially having that other Henderson here to use as a comparison.

I agree that was hilarious buying back my own whip, who woulda thunk it. It really makes me wonder if there are any more of my whips that have been used in a tv show or movie and I don't know it.

Hi Patrick,

thanks, it was quite tedious, I still look at it and can't believe I did it in one day on a whim.

Dan,

The Andromeda whip was part of the deal that we worked out.

I think that if it was done in two tone it may still look somewhat elegant, part of what I like about the subtlety and elegance of it is that it doens't have a whole lot of patterns packed in together, the only patterns different than the herringbone is the 6 simple rings down toward the bottom of the handle and the doubled up checkerboard toward the keeper.

By the way I've been meaning to tell you that the Annie Oakley Days Video is excellent!!! You did an amazing job with it. And I like that the only times I made it in the blooper real...er...reel was when I was holding a target for Gery in the Parade when he missed it, and when I put out Chris's flaming butt! hahahha.

Hi Steve,

The first thing I noticed was that about two or three years ago I started doing my fall hitches differently than where the last hitch strand usually comes back up and through the eye of the fall, and about two or three years ago I started taking that last strand and running it up the side of the hitches and taking it under the 3rd hitch down from the eye of the fall, over the 2nd one down, and under the 1st hitch and the eye of the fall. That was what made me know for sure that it was mine. Also, it's a 4 foot that looks just like the ones I was making a couple years ago, also how the strands were bevelled at the handle part, and just other little things like that. The knots also look like the knots I was making on the 4 foots at the time.

Hi Jim,

The falls on the Russell Schultze stockwhip pair are roohide. I don't think they were the original falls, I believe Ben said that he put them on, and I assume that Simon cut them for him. Ben said a few times at the convention that he likes roohide falls on his whips.

I'll probobly wait a lil bit before I do a copy of the Henderson thong for that whip. I'm waiting on some measurements of the thong from the owner, and I've got some other work to finish first anyways. Doing the handle the other day was more on a whim than anything, as I was really excited about getting the Henderson pics, and I've always wanted to make a copy of that whip. I'll probobly make one or two more copies of the whip after I finish this one, but I most likely won't get to it until later this year.

I'm glad everyone enjoyed the pics!

Regards,

Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips

[BullWhipBorton]

Paul, Great looking assortment of whips. I know we’ve talked extensively about Hendy’s work, I never get tired of seeing his whips. That 48 plait stock you did turned out fantastic, can’t wait to see the thong when you get it around too it. Also really like the look of that matched pair of stockwhips you did. Are one of those cane handles a bit bowed or is that just the picture angle?

That Alex Green whip is very cool, you have a piece of whip and motion picture history there, I am jealous . Any chance you could put up another pic or two of that one if you get a chance?

Dan

[midwestwhips]

Paul, Great looking assortment of whips. I know we’ve talked extensively about Hendy’s work, I never get tired of seeing his whips. That 48 plait stock you did turned out fantastic, can’t wait to see the thong when you get it around too it. Also really like the look of that matched pair of stockwhips you did. Are one of those cane handles a bit bowed or is that just the picture angle?

That Alex Green whip is very cool, you have a piece of whip and motion picture history there, I am jealous . Any chance you could put up another pic or two of that one if you get a chance?

Dan

Hi Dan,

Thanks, I never get tired of seeing Cec Henderson's work either.

Good eye on the handles, yes, one of the handles is just slightly bowed, but the angle of the picture makes it look like it is more than it really is. Notice the the handles of russell's pair look bowed as well, but they aren't really, just the pic angle.

Sure thing, I'll try to get another pic or two of the Zorro whip up, I used the pics that I grabbed from when the whip was put up on ebay a couple years ago, because they showed the detail much better than the couple quick ones I snapped. I'll try to take some good one's myself, any particular part of the whip you would like to see? I'll also put a couple pics up of Alex Green Dressed as Anthony Hopkins stunt double with the whip, as well as a pic of Anthony Hopkins in costume with the same whip.

Also, that Zorro whip is quite stiff still for being over 10 years old, and the handle has a lot more flex to it than I thought it would have, but I do like the way it cracks. I haven't been able to figure out who made it though. My best guess is Joe strain as it does have some things that stick out to me that are similar to joe's work, but I can't say for sure.

Joe if you read this, would you mind letting me know if you made this whip, I'd love to know for sure.

Regards,

Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips

[BullWhipBorton]

Thanks Paul, Yeah, I know cane can warp a bit. I wasn’t sure if it was just picture angle or not. If it was something that bothered you, you might be able to straighten it. I’ve had some luck straightening out bamboo and North American river cane though I never tried it with Tahiti cane.

I recognized the “Earthhunt” I’d really like to see a clear shot of the whole whip and one of the handle detail. I’ve been mulling over getting one of those for a while now, either the AG or the official zorro one. The AG bullwhips are shot loaded though and I don’t really like shot loading in bullwhips over 4ft, so maybe a custom non shot loaded version of the AG… I don’t know I can never make up my mind. Anyway I’ve talked to Both Mark and Joe about these whips and I believe Joe Strain is the only whip maker Mark has had make the AG and the “official” Zorro whip. It looks like his work to me. Thanks.

Dan

[midwestwhips]

Thanks Paul, Yeah, I know cane can warp a bit. I wasn’t sure if it was just picture angle or not. If it was something that bothered you, you might be able to straighten it. I’ve had some luck straightening out bamboo and North American river cane though I never tried it with Tahiti cane.

I recognized the “Earthhunt” I’d really like to see a clear shot of the whole whip and one of the handle detail. I’ve been mulling over getting one of those for a while now, either the AG or the official zorro one. The AG bullwhips are shot loaded though and I don’t really like shot loading in bullwhips over 4ft, so maybe a custom non shot loaded version of the AG… I don’t know I can never make up my mind. Anyway I’ve talked to Both Mark and Joe about these whips and I believe Joe Strain is the only whip maker Mark has had make the AG and the “official” Zorro whip. It looks like his work to me. Thanks.

Dan

Hi Dan,

I know of a couple of methods about straightening tohiti cane, but I'm not really worried about it. I kinda like it as is, cus I can pic them up and tell which one I like in which hand quickly, hahhaha.

I'll get those pics taken as soon as I can. I had been mulling over getting an Alex Green whip for a while now as well, ever since I cracked Gery Deer's Alex whip. FYI it's the same whip that is pictured in the WSP catalog. It is a beautiful whip and one of my favorites that I have ever cracked. So I endorse it fully, Joe does an exquisite job on those whips. I never heard that the AG whips were shotloaded though, and all the ones I've cracked certainly don't feel like they're shotloaded. Where did you hear that from?

For me, I'd rather have the Alex Green Whip rather than the Zorro whip, but with the whip I just got, I suppose I got the best of both, hahhaha.

As for Joe making them, I'm pretty sure that Joe has made all of the Alex Green whips, and almost all of the full size official zorro whips. I say almost because I have seen about 3 or 4 Zorro whips that were made by another whipmaker.

And I agree that I think this is an older joe whip, I'm starting to remember a conversation I had with either joe or alex at one of the first conventions I went to where, I think Alex sent joe his design and instructions of how he wanted it and joe made the first one. I think that's right, I just wish I could remember for sure.

Regards,

Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips

[BullWhipBorton]

Paul, I think they are fine the way they are also. It gives it character! As much as I like full plaited stock handles, there has always been something near and dear about the natural cane with the half plait , it’s a very functional and traditional style I suppose and I like that.

Thanks so much, I look forward to seeing the pictures. Joe Stain is the one who told me the Alex Green whips are shot loaded, and I think its also listed in the print version of the WSP catalog description and on the certificate that comes along with them. Joe doesn’t use much shot though and only uses it on those whips because that’s how Alex and Mark Allen wanted it. It’s just enough to say its shot loaded for balance. Mark’s the one that told me a few months ago that Joe Strain was the only one who has ever had made his Zorro whips when I asked him. Now with that said though, I have seen one or two that came from WSP that looked not so much like Strain’s version so you very well could be right. The only real differences between the “Official” Zorro and the Alex Green whip is the extra ½ foot, the added shot and the decorative “Zorro” band, other then that they are they are pretty much same whip.

I am a Zorro Fan and like the idea of getting the “Official” Zorro whip but I have to admit the gold and silver logo band is a bit cheesy for my taste. I think I like the plain silver band a bit more. Still it’s a great whip and it’s the ones they used in the 2nd movie, plus it it would look good next to my Zorro sword . I definitely appreciate the review and endorsement. I know Joe Strains work well enough to not have any doubts about that, but I don’t know too many people that use those particular whips so it’s good to hear good things about them. What I may eventually do is order a 6 ½ non-shot loaded black AG whip, and kind of go with a combo of the two, its also a little cheaper and I am always trying to find ways to save a buck . Its not the real one like you have, but it will have to do for now

Dan

[thefish]

Thanks for the compliments on the video, Paul.

Gery is still SOOO Jealous about that Zorro whip, Paul. ;-) I forgot how much he paid for the one that Banderas used for ONE SCENE, and was also used by Alex to train Halle Berry for Catwoman, but I think you paid less for the the Hero Prop, with another screen used whip thrown in to boot ;-) (even if you discovered that you DID make it!)

He sometimes uses his Zorro whip in shows, (a condition from Alex on him purchasing it. "Don't put it under glass and let it rot. Use it!") and in presentation, he always mentions that it was used in Zorro and for teaching Halle, (I think I left that in the Annie Oakley video.) Good material for presentation, but afterward, I always go, "You know, Paul got the hero prop," just to needle him.

He used to typically respond, "He got -A- hero prop. There were others, and he doesn't have it yet! He's still paying for it!" (Grinning of course. I think he's just as excited for you.)

You have to e-mail him and tell him he can't say "Not yet" anymore ;-)

Dan, I am surprised myself about as well that the Zorro/Alex Green whips have shot in them. They're so darned light! But they do roll out with a bit more "oomph" than Jacka's, (which are similar in physics with the long cane or fiberglass handle and long transition.) So it does kinda make sense.

I've considered ordering a black non-zorro AG whip from Mark for the same reasons myself, (price and the shear gaudyness of the gold and silver band.) But I'd probably go through Joe personally for that. Jim "RacerX" Jarrell has an absolutely beautiful 2 tone Alex Green styled whip from Joe that he custom ordered, (and which he based a whip on for me that it one of the easiest whips to crack that I have!) (Looks something like the "O" whip Joe did for Cirque du Soleil, pictured in the WSP printed catalog.) That'd probably save you some cash, (no "Certificates of Authenticity,") and would be able to easier personalize.

All the best,

-The Other Dan

[BullWhipBorton]

Yeah, I was a bit surprised too when I first found out they where shot loaded.

Joe said he could make a 6.5ft black AG/Zorro style whip with out the band for around $350 I think, which is a great deal compared to the ones though WSP, however, if I wanted a silver band I would have to supply it myself. I haven’t had much luck finding some one who could make a nice simple band yet though.

Dan

[Indiana Texas-girl]

Borton, have you checked with Simon Martin for a band? I know he's made some whips with bands on them.

[deadringer]

Hi Paul
GREAT photos ...allways something to be learnt from the old whipmakers. Terrific job on the handle reproduction .... will be a tuff ask to make a thong to suit . Would love to see some bigger pics if you would like to email them to me direct....
If you still have the hendo thong with you ,have a look and see if you can find where he has dropped his strands . When talking with Maurie Doohan he told me that when hendo was doing a 24 or higher thong that he would drop his strands in the pattern not in the straight herring bone (sometimes 4 at a time ) It would be interesting if this holds true with the thong that you have .
Anyways great photos, keep up the great work....
Kind regards
Chris Barr

[BullWhipBorton]

Borton, have you checked with Simon Martin for a band? I know he's made some whips with bands on them.

Thanks ITG, I appreciate that tip. No, I haven’t checked with Simon yet, but I know both he uses a stainless Steel ferrule on some of his whip. I don’t know if his would fit the dimensions of the AG/Zorro handle though. Bernie Wojcicki also makes beautiful custom bands in both silver and nickel, I’ve though about getting one from him but I feel kind of awkward asking one whipmaker to make me a just a band to send to another whipmaker because I want one of his whips instead.

Btw Paul, was that bullwhip you made, the one used in the Andromeda show, one of the lil’Indys?

Dan

[Indiana Texas-girl]

I’ve though about getting one from him but I feel kind of awkward asking one whipmaker to make me a just a band to send to another whipmaker because I want one of his whips instead.

Good point, that didn't even cross my mind when I posted, but that makes total sense.

[VP]

I thought this was a bullwhip table, not a stockwhip one.

[bernie47]

Don't feel awkward Dan ,I don't see any problems there. I make the rings for each individual whip so all I would need is an exact size and what you wanted engraved on it and we could go from there. E-mail me off list if you like.

[thefish]

I thought this was a bullwhip table, not a stockwhip one.

Ahhh, but to fully understand the true nature of the bullwhip, one must experience the beauty that is the stockwhip.

Otherwise, one stays a 3-crack wonder like Harrison Ford...

-Sifu Dan.

[Indiana Texas-girl]

Well spoken, fish. I have more fun cracking stockwhips because you can do so much more with those than the bullwhip.

[BullWhipBorton]

Don't feel awkward Dan ,I don't see any problems there. I make the rings for each individual whip so all I would need is an exact size and what you wanted engraved on it and we could go from there. E-mail me off list if you like.

Bernie, Thank you. I am in no rush but if I decide to go that route, I’ll drop you a line.

I thought this was a bullwhip table, not a stockwhip one.

It’s difficult to go into any amount of detail regarding whip cracking with out including the stockwhip or even the snakewhip to some extent. There history, development and use overlap and are interwove together in a sense with both Australian and American bullwhips, so there is a certain amount of leeway given when discussing those other whips in this forum.

Dan

[midwestwhips]

Hi Dan,

Here are some pics of the Zorro whip and the detail on the handle, I had a little trouble getting a really crisp clean picture as it's been cloudy and rainy for the past 3 or 4 days, and I haven't really had the chance. I snapped these indoors. Also, one of the pics of the whip is a close up from the ebay auction.

And two pics are of Alex and Hopkins in the Zorro outfits with the whip.







And your right, I went back and looked at the description of the Alex whip in the WSP catalog, and it does say it has shotloading, I must have forgotten about that, and it really isn't noticable in the whips, I couldn't even tell in the one that Gery has.

Do post pics and let us know what you decide to do.

Oh and the andromeda whip I believe is one of the lil' Indys, one of the ones without a wrist loop.

Dan Trout,

I'll have to admit, I get a bit of enjoyment out of knowing that Gery is a bit jealous. I guess it all just comes back around cus I was quite jealous of the whips he has, still am a bit. )

I'd like to put this zorro whip to use in shows, but I don't do very many so it may be a lil while before I get to. But I agree with Alex, they're made to be used.

Hi Chris,

No doubt! That thong is going to be a challenge, but that's what I like most about it. I've already done a little work on it, but I've got a lot more planning and measuring to do first, and I have to put that project aside for a little bit.

I checked the thong I have here, and while I thought that was the case that he had dropped strands in the patterns, I took a closer look and found they are not. The strands are dropped in the Herringbone, they are dropped very discreetely. Though this thong is 10 foot long, so there was a bit more length to drop smoothly, I wonder if the strands in the 6 foot are dropped in the patters, perhaps due to the shorter length. It would make sense to me.

My favorite thing about the Henderson info I've been getting is that the more and more I see of his work I get a better understanding of what he would do and why, and how. Though some may find it boring, it's exciting, and a lot of fun for me.

Regards,

Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips

[midwestwhips]

I thought this was a bullwhip table, not a stockwhip one.

VP,

I'm not sure how to take your comment, but if it bothers you that much I can take off the pictures of the stockwhips.

Regards,

Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips

[Ripper]

I wouldn't Paul. Leave them where they are. Most of us here enjoy all whips, stock, bull , snake...which ever. It should be changed to whips instead of the bullwhip. I think any whip can capture the Indy spirit!
Love that Zorro whip, I might have to have you make me one someday, One out of cow would be cool, I need to look into that. Are you ever going to get that website up and running?? Take care Paul.....Patrick.

[BullWhipBorton]

Paul, Thanks so much for posting the photos of your Alex Green Zorro whip. Black whips for some reason always seem hard to photograph,but they came out just fine to me. Neat pictures with Alex and Hopkins too. That whip is a real beauty, and the fact that it was the one used in the film is just too cool. I am glad you got it! I want one though particularly that one but I’ll settle for one not used in the film. Next time I get to St. Louis, I’ll just have to come by and crack it though, that should make Alex happy .

Don’t worry about the stockwhip pictures, this is a place for whip fans and whipmakers to join in and discuss, you’re a whipmaker and I am a fan of those stockwhips and we are discussing. As long as the photos aren’t over sized per COW regulations, I don’t see any problem with them staying put.

Dan

[jabahutt70]

Paul, gr8 pics as always! I know Adam & others call you "P. Diddy" Nolan, but maybe that P. should be for pic........"Pic Diddy" Nolan, or "Pic" Nolan.

Steve.

[midwestwhips]

I wouldn't Paul. Leave them where they are. Most of us here enjoy all whips, stock, bull , snake...which ever. It should be changed to whips instead of the bullwhip. I think any whip can capture the Indy spirit!
Love that Zorro whip, I might have to have you make me one someday, One out of cow would be cool, I need to look into that. Are you ever going to get that website up and running?? Take care Paul.....Patrick.

Hi Patrick,

Thanks, and I'm still working on that Website. As always making the whips comes first. ) But I hope to have it up soon, or atleast a temporary small site first.

Paul, Thanks so much for posting the photos of your Alex Green Zorro whip. Black whips for some reason always seem hard to photograph,but they came out just fine to me. Neat pictures with Alex and Hopkins too. That whip is a real beauty, and the fact that it was the one used in the film is just too cool. I am glad you got it! I want one though particularly that one but I’ll settle for one not used in the film. Next time I get to St. Louis, I’ll just have to come by and crack it though, that should make Alex happy .

Don’t worry about the stockwhip pictures, this is a place for whip fans and whipmakers to join in and discuss, you’re a whipmaker and I am a fan of those stockwhips and we are discussing. As long as the photos aren’t over sized per COW regulations, I don’t see any problem with them staying put.

Dan

Dan,

You are more than welcome to come by next time you are in St. Louis, and I think you'll probobly end up cracking more than just the Alex/Zorro whip! And that invitation is open to anyone on Indygear. Just let me know ahead of time.

With the Zorro whip, I forgot to mention that I noticed this one is 16 plait.

I hope the pictures aren't oversized, I didn't even know there was a regulation to the size. I wouldn't think that anyone would have a problem with stockwhips being pictured, that's why I really wish VP would elaborate on what he meant.

Paul, gr8 pics as always! I know Adam & others call you "P. Diddy" Nolan, but maybe that P. should be for pic........"Pic Diddy" Nolan, or "Pic" Nolan.

Steve.

Hi Steve,

Thanks, I'm glad there are some people here enjoying the pictures. I like the P. standing for "pic"! LOL! I'm a huge fan of pictures of whips and for me it's always the more the merrier. Seeing as many multi-angled pictures of a whip as possible gives a better visualization of what the whip would look like in person.

Regards,

Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips

[thefish]

Pauly,

You ARE going to bring that to Annie Oakley, aren't you? Yeah, I'd be a little cautious bringing it on a trip, but you know you've just GOTTA gloat to the rest of the whip crackers around, (especially me and Gery!)

And please, leave the stockwhip pictures. I love seeing what you're working on, (including the historical research I hear you're doing. I'm working on an article for the academic journal "Technology and Culture" about the misconceptions and evolution of the modern whip and would like some input.)

Take care, man!

-Dan

[BullWhipBorton]

Dan,

You are more than welcome to come by next time you are in St. Louis, and I think you'll probobly end up cracking more than just the Alex/Zorro whip! And that invitation is open to anyone on Indygear. Just let me know ahead of time.

With the Zorro whip, I forgot to mention that I noticed this one is 16 plait.

I hope the pictures aren't oversized, I didn't even know there was a regulation to the size.

Thank you Paul, I don’t know when I’ll be down to St Louis again, but I appreciate the offer, and I’ll take you up on that next time I am in the area. Interesting that it’s a 16 plait, I didn’t know they where made them like that. Did you ever ask Joe Strain about that bullwhip at all?

Regarding for picture size, forum policy is that any graphics posted within a thread are not supposed exceed 640x480 pixels and 50kb. Some have been know it post really large high-resolution pictures in the past so It’s done In order to help avoid server crashes and due to bandwidth limitations. Plus for members using dial up it takes a while to load. I am not going to check every picture posted as long as it looks reasonably sized, but If they are too big just resize them down a bit. No worries.

Dan

[midwestwhips]

Pauly,

You ARE going to bring that to Annie Oakley, aren't you? Yeah, I'd be a little cautious bringing it on a trip, but you know you've just GOTTA gloat to the rest of the whip crackers around, (especially me and Gery!)

And please, leave the stockwhip pictures. I love seeing what you're working on, (including the historical research I hear you're doing. I'm working on an article for the academic journal "Technology and Culture" about the misconceptions and evolution of the modern whip and would like some input.)

Take care, man!

-Dan

Hi Dan,

I will definitely bring it with me to AOD(Annie Oakley Days). I don't care so much about Gloating, I'd just like to show it, I know a lot of people there would be interested in seeing it(and cracking it). But with Gery, I will definitely Gloat! I owe him. hahahaha

I'd love to hear and help with the article you're working on! Shoot me an email!!!

Regards,

Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips

[midwestwhips]

Thank you Paul, I don’t know when I’ll be down to St Louis again, but I appreciate the offer, and I’ll take you up on that next time I am in the area. Interesting that it’s a 16 plait, I didn’t know they where made them like that. Did you ever ask Joe Strain about that bullwhip at all?

Regarding for picture size, forum policy is that any graphics posted within a thread are not supposed exceed 640x480 pixels and 50kb. Some have been know it post really large high-resolution pictures in the past so It’s done In order to help avoid server crashes and due to bandwidth limitations. Plus for members using dial up it takes a while to load. I am not going to check every picture posted as long as it looks reasonably sized, but If they are too big just resize them down a bit. No worries.

Dan

Dan,

As it seems I think my pictures are slightly too large. I'm not really very adept at this stuff, as I'm still learning. And I completely understand about it too, as I am on dial up, and it does take quite a while to load. I'll see if I can figure out how to resize them smaller.

Regards,

Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips

[midwestwhips]

Here is a quick shot of that Henderson Thong that was on the twisted handle, I put it on the 48 plait copy handle of mine, and was quite pleased with how they looked together.



Regards,

Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips

[BullWhipBorton]

Paul thanks for resizing your pictures, there’s been a recent crackdown of sorts on overly large pictures on the forum, and so I’ve just been trying to place a few polite reminders when the situation calls for it.

Love the picture of the Henderson stockwhip with the 48 plait handle you did. You did a superb job matching them up I think Cecil would have been be happy to see his work paired up with such a fitting replacement.

Best

Dan

[midwestwhips]

Love the picture of the Henderson stockwhip with the 48 plait handle you did. You did a superb job matching them up I think Cecil would have been be happy to see his work paired up with such a fitting replacement.
Dan

Dan,

Thank you so much, that means a lot! I could only hope that he would be happy with it.

It is a shame he is not alive today, it would be interesting to see what he would be making now.

Regards,

Paul Nolan
MidWestWhips