Origins of the Indy Shirt?
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Origins of the Indy Shirt?
I think I've found the stylistic inspiration for Indy's shirt. Whilst watching some quality Brady Bunch the other day, the Tiki Caves episode came on. You know, where Greg, Peter, and Bobby have to go to the cave to return the bad luck tiki to the grave of the Hawaiian king. There they run into crazy archaeologist, Dr. Whitehead, who is wearing a safari-style jacket with front pleats! Aha! The archaeological precedent for shirt pleats is set! You have to look closely in this picture, but they're there!
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Jackets with front pleats go back at least to the Victorian/Edwardian period. Old hunting jackets, or Norfolk Jackets, as they were called, had pleats that went down the length of the front of the jacket, and often had belts that went around the back. During the 60s/70s this style found somewhat of a resurgence, though polyester never quite had the class as wool and tweed. I think I read somewhere that the Indy shirt origins have been thought to come from guyabera (sp?) shirts...
But I can see it now, the new girl for IndyIV is going to be Alice!
But I can see it now, the new girl for IndyIV is going to be Alice!
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That shirt is indeed a guayabera or guayavera(depends on where you are). This has come up a couple of times in the past. I think the first time was when Jimmy Carter was in Cuba wearing a less seen long sleeve version. My wife's from Puerto Rico and her grandparents send me one every year. They're very comfortable. K
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Edit: They're also very close to the classic barber shirt.
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Edit: They're also very close to the classic barber shirt.
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Thanks, Tone! At least somebody gets me!Indiana_Tone wrote:"The memories just come flooding back, monkey. Greg fell off his board.....they couldn't find him! They cliff-hung me on that episode and I had to wait until next time! It was horrible, monkey. Just horrible. How did Greg hold his breath for a whole week? I....I need another drink."
OR Mojave's response to the missed humor of the topic altogether.
I thought it was funny, MJ!
Here's the question that gets me: if no one knew about that cave, how did Greg, Peter, and Bobby just wander out there like they were on their way to school or something?! And why did Dr. Whitehead get a wing named after him and not the Hawaiian guy told the Bradys where it was?
Now where the heck did I leave that tiki?
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Aww... Thanks, Bink I love you, too...I mean, I love your humor....Whoops, I mean...Hey, how 'bout those Dodgers! Anybody catch that game....binkmeisterRick wrote:Mojave, I do love your sense of humour. Unfortunately, it was "Leave Your Humour At Home Day" at work today.'
Come to think of it, I DID wonder where they came up with the spider idea in Raiders... GREG!!!!!
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Another moment brought to you by Kodak.Mojave Jack wrote:Aww... Thanks, Bink I love you, too...I mean, I love your humor....Whoops, I mean...Hey, how 'bout those Dodgers! Anybody catch that game....binkmeisterRick wrote:Mojave, I do love your sense of humour. Unfortunately, it was "Leave Your Humour At Home Day" at work today.'
Come to think of it, I DID wonder where they came up with the spider idea in Raiders... GREG!!!!!
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Hmmm. Now that you mention it, Tone, weren't there a number of scenes cut? Remember those pieces that Indy offered to Marcus that would pay for the plane to Marrakesh?! Anybody get a good look at them? That's right! Hemingway has found the Chachapoyan/Polynesian link! Obviously both Indy and Dr. Whitehead were aware of the link (and by extension Steven Speilberg and Sherwood Schwartz), which explains the significance of both the fertility idol and the Hawaiian tiki. No wonder Dr Whitehead was so intent on protecting that cave. That discovery could set the archaeological world on it's head! Good work, my friends!Indiana_Tone wrote:It's quite the eye-opener to see how much of the Indy films was based off the Brady Bunch. Tiki Idol? Nurhachi? Indy? Pleated shirt. Archaeologist? Dr. Whitehead? Pleated jacket. Archaeologist.
I thought it might be a hoax had I not remembered they cut the whole surfing competition 'mishap' at the opening of Temple of Doom just before Indy decides to give the urn back to Lao Che the next evening. And does Sherwood Shwartz get any credit? No!
Other odd things: Speilberg had a secretary named Schwartz and Schwartz had a secretary named Speilberg. Also, they were both born in a year ending in a number. Weird, huh?
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That's a nice tiki, Tone! (And you are the supreme screen accurate Indy, I have to say!)
That's the spitting image of a young Dr. Whitehead, fresh from a dig deep in the Peruvian highlands, years before he nearly goes insane in a cave in Hawaii, thanks to those meddling Brady boys.
There were others on the trail of the Chachapoyan/Polynesian connection, too:
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I certainly never expected it to go this far! But then again, I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition, either!Indiana_Tone wrote:You guys are going to get this thread deleted and the correlation between The Brady Bunch, Scooby Doo, and the Indiana Jones films will be lost forever! 8-[ Next thing you know, somebody's going to ask "Hey, where'd the idea for Indy's shirt come from?" And significant info like the above will be lost.
And truthfully, I don't think any of us expected the post to get this far.
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Bring out...the comfy chair!Scandinavia Jones wrote:NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! There, I got to say it this time...
I for one am not going to participate in this thread - it will eventually be nuked and I'll lose precious post count... hey! No!
Re: VP's avatar - Lordi rokkaa.
Yes, we here at COW have two tools for determining these historical archaeological connections: logic, intelligence, and humor. Three, three tools for determining these historical archaeological connections....
I Googled Lordi rokkaa, but it must have been in some ancient language or something. I couldn't read a thing! Who is this mysterious, not to mention creepy, Lordi rokkaa? Is he a Sith Master?
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Lordi rokkaa is Finnish and means Lordi rocks. http://lordi.org/main.htmlMojave Jack wrote:I Googled Lordi rokkaa, but it must have been in some ancient language or something. I couldn't read a thing! Who is this mysterious, not to mention creepy, Lordi rokkaa? Is he a Sith Master?
Yeah, kinda.ob1al wrote:And does he wear a safari-style jacket with front pleats?
12,5%, that's ⅛.