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The pleat also raises the top of the right side dent. Notice the back tilt and the way the felt bulges over the ribbon in back. This is what I've been trying to get for years. If it wasn't a stiff new reg. Fed, I'd be getting more. 
the left brim needs a wire 
The top dent is the deepest I've ever had, that I could wear, but this is a 6 inch hat, with a smaller head in it than there normally would be. 
Heres the stitched pleat 
Here's the folded sweat and layeres of tape stuffing 
I'm sure the Fed has more taper in the front and back than an AB. I wasn't very happy with it when I took it out of the box, due to taper everywhere. An AB would probably work better. A slightly smaller hat with less taper would probably work better. I'm using thicker stuffing than I'd like to. 
The stretching seems to have effected the leather sweat and lining. 
Darthjones showed me a picture of his machine, which looks exactly like this one. 
It has reverse taper. Is that so you can stretch a hat with a sweatband already in it? I think there might be a little stretching on the Raiders hat here. It's rearward, but the hat is turned. 
Notice the back tilt and the way the felt bulges over the ribbon in back. This is what I've been trying to get for years.
That hat looks great, congrats on arriving. I should s send you this vintage HJ body, You can get the bulge by just pressing down on the top of the hat. That is the sort of felt it is, a characteristic of that particular kind of felt. It mushrooms and bulges out over the back ribbon without the stuff you have had to go through. Most folks would not like it due to it's inability to hold its new looking state. For Indy fans, it would be a godsend. Good show!! Regards, Fedora
They might be too tight , but that wouldn't make up all the difference. You didn't answer my request about those GHOST hats you just superinposed on the Marhala Hat. I'd like to see the actual pictures, and whether you guys are wearing those hats! I think I 'll start a new thread "Post the Side Views of your Adventurebuilts Here" But like I said, an AB would probably work better than a Fed. Here's my Miller- the first hat I bought and an oversized 59 7 3/8 also. Even then I thought the Raiders hat was oversized. I didn't put enough stuffing in it or tighten the ribbon- I didn't get enough back tilt/bulge. I couldn't get a deep top dent because it only had a 5 1/2 inch crown. 
My 57 7 1/8 PBBM looks like Mike's 
and you and Marc should experiment!
I have been, for the last 4 years!! But, I will never block a hat a size or two too large, and then go through what you have gone through to produce a hat. In is unfeasible. Plus, I would stake my life on the costumer fitting Ford with an HJ, and then distressing it. They would have never went through what you have to produce the hat. But, with that said, you should go into business, producing what you think is "the hat"
....I can't understand why this hat looks brown in pictues. It's green. The regular Fed is a green hat.
No fair, you cheat Dr Jones! The rules are, you cannot use ABs that look accurate, only the ones that don't. Otherwise, you have no argument.believe this hat is an AB - side profile looks OK to me.
Fedora Actually I believe he said once that he buys his hats slightly smaller so they stay on the head also with strong wind but if you want we can ask him directly3thoubucks wrote:The first thing I noticed about this hat was it looked big for Pagey.
My hat is on so tight it hurts.Regards the first issue; I always respected 3K$ because he really showed us the importance of "the turn" - something I have done to hats ever since. So to have him of all people call me a cheat and "illusionist" is the last straw. My own theory on the raiders hat is that it looked rather small and tight on Ford's head, and as a result I have ordered most of my hats a size smaller than I would otherwise wear so that the hat sits tightly high on my head and can pulled down (really tightly) and won't blow off even in a gale. So 3K$ can just get stuffed with his observations about my hat. I've found a way of bashing a hat to my liking, which I think is pretty Raiders-esque. If people don't believe me (I put up a pretty simple tutorial for goodness sake!!) then I couldn't care less. OB1 and Breineder have seen me wearing my hats in person and know that y hat DOES exist and is not just photoshopped. I have absolutely no further regard for 3K$ so perhaps he'll kindly desisit from uising my "photoshopped" pictures on his website.
Regardes the second issure; Yes I did leave COW about a year or so ago (partly for issues like the above!) and yes I did try to rejoin recently. Yes, the COW admin denied my rejoining based on a "unanimous decision". That decision is theirs and they have every right to make it. I told them I will respect that decision with no hard feelings.
Cheers, Pagey
And that doesn't seem to be the case with Harrison Ford's Raiders hat. But I looked at Raiders today, and can see why. His forehead almost never stops receeding!... 
No, incorrect. I have no clue where this place is, but it is not California.Tycoonman wrote: That appears to be California Adventure, Adventure Trail if I am not mistaken. Correct:
It is what is, but not due to any special design or planning. By a mix of the hat's components and materials alone we have a very unique hat that's nearly impossible to duplicate. But I don't think that's what they were trying to do.
BreinederIndy wrote:I think there is no uniform formula to get the right Raiders hat if you're going to wear it. Of course, there are many neccesary details which you should have an eye on before ordering, bashing, etc. but since every person, head and -esspeccialy- face is different my idea of the right Raiders hat is as follows:Tycoonman wrote: That appears to be California Adventure, Adventure Trail if I am not mistaken. Correct
good hat, good bash, good and long wear. I think it is more important that the Raiders hat matches the person who wears it than the screen graps you like most.
On the other hand, you should compare your hat to the movie every now and than
Exactly. The first thing the costume designer would do, is start with a hat that actually fit Harrison Ford's head. When they went shopping for his hat, why would they pick one that was a couple sizes too big, when all they have to do is get one that is the right size? It is not the way that I shop for things, and I don't think they did either. This was long before the era of people wearing jeans that are so big that they hang down off the person's rear end.Pitfall Harry wrote:I have to believe the extra steps 3thoubucks has gone to are not how they did the hat in the film. It can't be. If they would have spent that much time "working" that hat to do what all it does than it would have taken an extra year for them to make the film!
.... No stuffing? Look at the squareish corner half way up the ribbon. Fords head probably doesn't have a corner there, Looks a bit short for a sweat, and if it is a sweat, it must be quarter inch cowhide. 
I was re-reading this thread when I noticed the shadow half way up the ribbon of the bow side in this shot- I haven't done much shopping for vintage hats. The last one I bought 33 years ago. But I have found a folded newspaper and a folded handkerchief in two of the handfull I've examined. 
