UPDATE: Magnoli Satchel v2

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UPDATE: Magnoli Satchel v2

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I have dubbed my replica of the bag the MG-VII... too corny? :oops: Here are the specs:

material: soft cotton canvas
color: olive-brown drab with a washed out finish
hardware: nickel plated brass rings, cast zinc alloy side disk (from an original), nickel plated drain holes
interior: pockets based on MK-VII

...and the pictures:

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Now, I've done a run of these and will likely not do another one from the same manufacturer for some time. The run is complete, so these can't be modified in any way. As they are (without the strap) they are $25 each. Shipping is $5 anywhere via airmail.

I am working on the straps right now. I'm hoping to have them finished in a few weeks. They will be offered in two types of leather, a dark, slightly glossy brown and a dull, aged-finished brown. These straps will be offered with the bags and seperately. I'll post news here.

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MG-VII Bag

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Very nice. I will definitely be getting one of these. :D
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Excellent news! Cant wait till they are done....

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GAHHH! You had to list this after I paid for an original MKVII from WPG! :( lol.
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Post by Antone »

The pics look great, I'll definitely be getting one!

One question; you say it's soft cotton canvas...does this mean it is made of material softer/thinner than a typical original MKVII?

In any case, I can't wait to see them with the straps.

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It may be a tad thinner (it's quite hard to tell) but it is definitely softer than an original WWII era bag.

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Post by GraveRobberGreg »

What will the price be with the strap? Bag looks great!
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I'm pricing out buckles at the moment (which will most likely be custom cast), but I'm estimating the straps to be about $25-30 (plus s/h). So the entire bag/strap combo will probably be $55 (plus s/h).

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Post by whiskyman »

Indy Magnoli wrote:It may be a tad thinner (it's quite hard to tell) but it is definitely softer than an original WWII era bag.

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From my experience, the origial bags varried quite a bit in the weight of the fabric used. I've had some fairly heavy weight bags and some very soft and thin.
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Post by Kt Templar »

Nice work, can you bung one in the washing machine on a hot wash to see how it holds up please?

My original came through unscathed minus 60 years of grime! (Don't call it patina! lol).

My WPG repro, reverse tapered in the same wash!

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Weight of original bags

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All the unissued MK Vlls I have handled (a lot over the years) have been in heavy, stiff jute canvas. The Mk Vl is in a lighter more flexible fabric. It's getting harder to find unissued MK Vls in UK, but MK Vlls are still very common in stores.
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Post by Indy Magnoli »

That's funny, because the two MKVI's I have are stiffer than the MKVII I have. Of course, that's the one I've been carrying around for years, so it may have just softened up through use. :-k

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Magnoli,

When do you sleep?

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Post by Shawn »

Looks great. Though I already have a bag, you are looking to be my one stop shop for my other pending gear purchases!
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Post by Erri »

Tell us the truth Magnoli... where do you keep all your slave-kids working on your stuff? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The bag looks nice.. there is something weird about the top part but we have to remember it's just a MKVII-close-enough :P
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Where do you get the original disks?
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Post by binkmeisterRick »

What are you thinking looks wierd, erri? It looks good all the way round to me. Heck, he's even got the original divider inside the bag! As for the snaps, it's been discussed that there are two or three variants of the snap buttons on vintage bags.
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Oh I sleep... but I prefer to call it "pre-production planning". ;)

As for the side disk, I removed one from an original back and had them cast in a zinc alloy.

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binkmeisterRick wrote:What are you thinking looks wierd, erri?
I would have explained by words better if I only knew English better :lol: ... how do you call the .. top part? Flap something? Tonight i'm not good at all :roll:
Indy Magnoli wrote: As for the side disk, I removed one from an original back and had them cast in a zinc alloy.
Very smart 8)
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erri_wan wrote:[
I would have explained by words better if I only knew English better :lol: ... how do you call the .. top part? Flap something? Tonight i'm not good at all :roll:
Erri:

As someone who is in his second semester of studying Italian, please allow me to say there's no need for you to apologize. I couldn't come close to conversing on the board in Italian. You come across clearly and articulately (if that's a word :D ) I often can't think of the right word for what I'm trying to say even in English!

Ciao!

And by the way, how would a good Italian :wink: say "Fortune and Glory!" (Fortuna e ?)

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Fortuna e Gloria, amico mio, fortuna e gloria :wink:
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erri_wan wrote:Fortuna e Gloria, amico mio, fortuna e gloria :wink:
Gosh, that's peculiar, because I dated a Gloria Fortuna... :shock:
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Indiana Jerry wrote:
erri_wan wrote:Fortuna e Gloria, amico mio, fortuna e gloria :wink:
Gosh, that's peculiar, because I dated a Gloria Fortuna... :shock:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Well if you let me go back on topic... try to understand me now... the "flap" of the bag usually looks wider than in the first Magnoli picture.. it tends to cover the brass rings usually. Although this feature in Magnoli's bags might be only good since in the original MKVIIs it tends to make the top flat wrinkle for that reason.
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erri_wan wrote:Fortuna e Gloria, amico mio, fortuna e gloria :wink:
Randy e Erri, piacere! Anche io sono uno studente dell'italiano! Ho preso due anni alla scuola ed un anno all'università.

To keep it on topic, Magnoli's new bag is molto bello!

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I never imagined there were so many student of Italian! Pleased to meet you goodfella 8) :lol: :wink:
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erri_wan wrote:I never imagined there were so many student of Italian! Pleased to meet you goodfella 8) :lol: :wink:
We could have an all-Italian forum here on COW, though I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to keep up my end. :lol:

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Magnoli,

some pics of the strap and buckle would be great when ya get em. :D
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Indiana Jerry wrote:
erri_wan wrote:Fortuna e Gloria, amico mio, fortuna e gloria :wink:
Gosh, that's peculiar, because I dated a Gloria Fortuna... :shock:
Oh boy, I've got a joke along those lines, but...well, I won't go there. :wink:
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Indiana Jerry wrote:
erri_wan wrote:Fortuna e Gloria, amico mio, fortuna e gloria :wink:
Gosh, that's peculiar, because I dated a Gloria Fortuna... :shock:
Whaddaya know. My sister used to date a guy called Amico Mio! *Rimshot*

Thank you, you've been great! ;)

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Post by binkmeisterRick »

erri_wan wrote:... the "flap" of the bag usually looks wider than in the first Magnoli picture.. it tends to cover the brass rings usually. Although this feature in Magnoli's bags might be only good since in the original MKVIIs it tends to make the top flat wrinkle for that reason.
I just compared the picture with my bag and the flap seems pretty spot on. Of course, as you use your bag, it won't look so "ironed," but snapping the flap closed and holding it up like in the picture, I find my strap rings aren't really covered by the flap. I would think that if the rings were covered by the flap when closed, that the bag wouldn't hang as comfortably. It's also a bit different in that we're comparing a new bag to something likely broken in.
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Post by Indy Magnoli »

The straps are now made but the buckles aren't... so at least you can see what options I'm planning on.

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The top one is a rougher looking "faded" brown while the lower strap is a nicer looking burgundy-brown. Both have grooves and have sealed edges.

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That strap looks fantastic. I'd love to see a complete set with the bag and buckle once you get it assembled... so far so good, I just need shirt first :c)
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What does the back of the strap look like?

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Post by Jonesy »

Let me know if I can get one! Would like to get a new bag!
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Post by Indy Magnoli »

Here is a front and back of the prototype strap (the grooves are slightly different then the final version and the edges are unfinished):

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My production straps are outside at the moment and it's raining, so this picture will have to do. In any case the back is the same basic colour as the front.

I'm hoping the whole set will be available in about three weeks.

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Post by Floribama Steve »

I agree with Erri that the top flap looks slightly different. Only to my eye, the diagnal corners are cut off too far from the side and bottom of the flap. The flap itself looks slightly too short; but heck, I've only seen one bag in person (my own), so I'm no expert.
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Post by Ark Hunter »

Nice work Mag. Are the straps kind of belt leather thickness or a bit thiner maybe?
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The straps are a hair under 1/8" thick (making them about a 7-8oz leather).

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Post by Ghos7a55assin »

Does anyone know how that compares to the Texas Action Gear strap? I bought one of those, but was disappointed at how light it was. I always use it for a while, but end up using my Noel Howard strap again even if it will bleed on my shirt sometimes. The NH strap just feels more substantial.
The grain looks beautiful on those straps- they look really supple.
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When will these bad bags be available, Mag? I've got some cash and it's burnin' a hole in my pocket... Need new bag... :twisted:
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The bags are available right now, I just haven't added them to my site yet. The straps, however are still waiting for their buckles. I'm hoping to have them in another couple of weeks.

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Post by Mulceber »

Looks great, Indy! My only quiry (can't spell) is what about the dimpled press studs? Those look pretty flat. :junior: -IJ
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The press studs are convex, but not rough textured as on some originals. The snaps are the same as those on two other original bags I have though.

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The straps and buckles are finished:

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I'm offering three colours: Dusty Brown, Burgundy and Matte Black. The buckles are custom-made so will be unique to my version.

The final price is $60 (shipped), or $30 for just the bag and $35 for just the strap (s/h also included).

You can order them through Magnoli Clothiers:

https://host385.ipowerweb.com/~indyprop ... ucts_id=66

...or by contacting me directly via e-mail or PM.

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Finally!!! The bag hath arrived!!! I'm gonna get one of these as soon as possible... no chance that the price is going to magically go on sale like the Adventure boots did, is there? :roll: :wink:
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Nope... the prices on the bags and straps are the best I can do on them. Shipping can be combined, however, when ordered with any of my prop replicas.

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Post by Indiana Charles »

Top notch work Magnoli, what sizes do the straps come in?

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They come standard at 70" open, but about 68" after the hardware has been added. They can be easily shortened from there by request.

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I'm currently shipping via DHL Global Mail and they seem to take about ten days to most destinations.

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Post by Indy Magnoli »

Good news and bad news for those waiting on my new run of satchels: there has been another delay and these won't be ready to ship until mid-December.

The good news is that this run will be better than the last. I am now using a heavier cotton (a 16oz canvas) that will be much closer to a period bag. The o-rings will not be split as before and will be darker (like tarnished steel). The bottom vents are now brass. Here are some photos:

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And my favourite change... an historic-styled stamp on the inside flap:

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Post by Indiana G »

MCLtd. 1942......now that's classy mags. very nice touch :D
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