British indy fans- VCR Bill

Skippy · Post by **Skippy** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:31 pm

Nope, no mention of blank ammunition in the bill's legislation.

But to be on the safe side, I think from now on your best factoring in having a licensed armourer for your films Ken. May not be that hard, as someone in the firearms hobby, would doubtless enjoy the opportunity

No calls from film companies at the office so far this week. It may be quite a while before I am in that position & can speak to an armourer & bottom out this issue for you

Feraud · Post by **Feraud** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:49 am

Indiana Ken wrote:So... I know this is probably a given, but this means also that blank firing ammo is going to dissappear as well.

Now we can keep our blank firers, so we should be stock piling the ammo, right?

Ken

Oh yes. I would definitely start stockpiling in that situation!

jack · Post by **jack** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:13 pm

Regards armourers, they are section 5 authorities and are allowed quite legally to have anything from stens to mg42's all live.

The VCR bill will not affect armours as far as i've been told by an armourer

Blank ammunition should still be readily available, so if you need guns for your films Ken i think a section 5 armourer will be the way to go.

cheers now

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:07 am

Things just got a little bit more sticky:

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,3 ... 16,00.html

KT

Better get your orders in folks.

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:06 pm

Just when you think you couldn't crank the restriction any tighter....

Indiana Jimmy · Post by **Indiana Jimmy** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:21 pm

Having spoken to a friend of mine who is in Metropolitan police Firearms, he has explain some of the police angle on this bill, and it seams fare. Basicly.....
Idiot brandishes gun or item looking like gun in public.
Police are called.
Police tell them to drop it - they don't.
Police shoot idiot.
'Gun' turns out to be a lighter/toy/pencil sharpner.
Police get sued by ambulance chasing lawyers, good officers get suspended, public wrongly loose trust in the Police who were only doing there job because of ensuing hippy outcry, stupid press jump on band wagon blaiming police... basicly it causes a huge problem.
Also many many man hours are being lost every week due to fake gun call outs, when they could be catching filth.
My friend admitted that we as intelegent, law abiding citizens would suffer more than the crims to start with, but, that it was the only way to basicly give the police the space to solve the bigger problem of illegal guns.
(He advised me as a reenactor to get a FAC and a real Mauser K98 as it will be easier to get and keep than a deac!

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Post by **Ken** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:37 pm

Indiana Jimmy wrote: Police get sued by ambulance chasing lawyers, good officers get suspended, public wrongly loose trust in the Police who were only doing there job because of ensuing hippy outcry, stupid press jump on band wagon blaiming police... basicly it causes a huge problem.

Surely this is where the problem is

Calico Jack · Post by **Calico Jack** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:53 pm

I'm from Kentucky. The weapons laws there are not what you'd call strict - up until recently, fully automatic weapons were prohibited, but no longer. I think that active grenades may be illegal, but I'm not sure.

Basically, the way it works in the bluegrass state is that any weapon is legal provided that it is visible. So, for example, you can walk around town with loaded six-shooters on your hips (as many do in Harlan or Hazard) and have no legal difficulties whatsoever. Provided, of course, that you have a license to own the guns. The only places that this is illegal is where it is posted - usually government buildings such as schools, courthouses, etc.

True, this is a bit much, but the UK already had very strict gun laws as it was. The idea of banning toy guns is a bit extreme for my taste, but then I'm no fan of almost anything that the labour party does, so I'm not very surprised. It would be a shame if the Indy fans in the UK, with all the attention to detail that the people on this board seem to show, would have to besmirch the otherwise perfect costume with a flourescent orange barrell.

Skippy · Post by **Skippy** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:46 pm

Dragging this one up from the archives for an update

Was reading up on this subject a couple of days ago. Seems after some serious lobbying by re-enactors & military vehicle enthusiasts that deactivated weapons will not fall foul of the new bill $\:D/$

However, in other bad news, France may ban vintage military vehicles altogether!

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:41 pm

So, rubber guns and the like are being targeted, but real (de-activated) guns aren't?

What would happen to you if you were on your way to a costume party, and had a holster on your hip? I haven't done that here in the states yet, but I keep wondering what will happen. I mean, a cop happens to see my holster ... would he stop me? Maybe. Maybe not. He might just think it's part of my outfit, but it would be embarassing to get stopped.

VP · Post by VP » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:16 am

Skippy wrote:France may ban vintage military vehicles altogether!

WTF? Are they scared of people driving around in WWII jeeps and making people think the war's not over yet?

Skippy · Post by **Skippy** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:23 am

Strider - some years ago in the 80's there was a fledgling fashion for wearing a wallet holder that looked alot like a shoulder holster & I can remember getting stopped by the police wearing one of those one summer day (before I joined up) although after a quick inspection they were happy to let me go on my way

VP - it's that great catch all of anti-terrorism which will allow goverments to get away with the most totalitarian legislation :evil: