AB Lining photo please?

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:57 am

I am between choosing a HJ or an AB. I have seen the pics around but have one small request from you guys.

Anybody can post some photos of how the AB lining looks like?

Thanks
PLATON

kalkamel · Post by **kalkamel** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:37 am

Ace posted a pic of it in the AB thread. Here it is:

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Strider · Post by **Strider** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:20 am

I believe that hat belongs to Ace.

JAN · Post by **JAN** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:23 am

I belive that too, soo..?

Best regards

JAN

kalkamel · Post by **kalkamel** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:29 am

That's why I pointed out that Ace posted a pic of it.

Cheers!

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:42 am

I sent you a pm platon.

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:02 pm

Hey, isn't that Aces hat?

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Snakewhip_Sable · Post by **Snakewhip_Sable** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:04 pm

It looks a little like Ace's hat. ...from the inside anyway.

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:36 pm

Yup, its Aces hat for sure...

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:46 pm

Should we make a poll to determine if it IS Ace's hat?

Gorak · Post by **Gorak** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:06 pm

I`m actually gonna play devil`s advocate and go with...I don`t belive it is Ace`s hat!!!!!!
HaHA

Serial Hero · Post by **Serial Hero** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:38 pm

Who's Ace, and what sir may I ask are you doing with his hat?

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:39 pm

Boy, Ace's grey hat looks brown from the inside...

Serial Hero · Post by **Serial Hero** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:42 pm

Boy, Ace's grey hat looks brown from the inside...

So is the grey hat supposed to be brown on the inside?

I think we need to open a new thread.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:52 pm

DOWN boys...BACK, I say!!!!

Regards! Michaelson

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 6:59 pm

Yesss, Masssterrrr.....

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:00 pm

Michaelson wrote:DOWN boys...BACK, I say!!!!

Regards! Michaelson

I don't think I've ever seen a thread derail so fast, eh, Michealson!?

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:08 pm

Heeheehee...the natural restraint that comes from not wanting to get in the way of an answer was removed by kalkamel's prompt post...so it was a bit more of a victimless crime this time. Really, we try not to derail things in progress...unless they are silly, of course.

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:32 pm

Platon, are you going to pick between two hats based on their linings? Is it the material or the design you're interested in?

Just curious.-HJ

Strider · Post by **Strider** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:10 pm

kalkamel wrote:That's why I pointed out that Ace posted a pic of it.

Cheers!

Right, after I said that. Nice edit!

Gater · Post by **Gater** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:36 pm

to be fair, you guys are all aces, in my book!

kalkamel · Post by **kalkamel** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:44 pm

(Just revisited this thread since yesterday)..... Whoa

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Indakin · Post by **Indakin** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:32 am

wow i really like the headpiece in the lining, thats a very cool touch to the AB, and the first time ive ever seen inside one.

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:16 am

Here's mine on a proto... not the best picture, but you'll get the idea.

Regards,

Marc

JEEP · Post by **JEEP** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:57 am

Wow - that is beautiful Marc. Now I am looking even more forward to recieving my own!

/Jakob
-who just ordered an AB deluxe from Marc....

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:45 am

It's really beautiful Marc.

Why the sweatband wrinkled so much anyway? How deep you pushed those dents?

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:52 pm

That sweatband is from one of the four(!) suppliers, who tried to create what I wanted, but it is too soft. A sweatband can be too soft and as a result of this, it'll immitate the shape of the crown. Neither desired by me, nor vintage style, so this was a one timer.

Regards,

Marc

Post by **Michaelson** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:04 pm

WELL, darn, Marc. That's a shame. If that's a size 7 3/8, just send that raggedy old hat over to me, and I'll make sure it's hidden from view due to it's terrible looking band.

NO problem. I'm nice like that.... 8-[

Regards! Michaelson

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:11 pm

Knew you are, ol' friend

I'm afraid that this hat doesn't exist like shown on the pictures. I have the habbit to trash anything that doesn't come out 100% to my likenings (don't - I said DON'T - ask me to send my trash

).

Steve has worked hard on making Adventurebilt what it is and so have I for the past months. None of us would EVER send out seconds.

Regards,

Marc

Post by **Michaelson** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:13 pm

Ok, now that you got the commercial out of the way, you can send that hat to me on the sly.......

JUST kidding..... $\:D/$

High regards! Michaelson

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:18 am

Hemingway Jones, no my friend. It is not the lining that will make me decide. (I just asked for a lining shot of the AB cause I've never seen it).

2 factors influence my decision. The accuracy and the price.
I hear all of you saying that the AB is better than the HJ but when I look at the photographs at Todd's site or at idyfedora.com I see the same hat I see in the AB site. (Unless if they ship something different than what is shown in the fotos)

I suppose you are aware of the prices

HJ from indyfedora.com is priced at $233
HJ from Todd's costumes costs $239
AB costs $250 (beaver)

Based on the fact that the all the hats look OK to me in the photos I really can't decide. I do not care about 100% accuracy and the HJ I see in the photos looks fine.

However, somebody said to me that the HJ "doesn't have the raiders look" I want. Please help.

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:29 am

Platon,

If you order from Todd's do not forget about the extra fee for the Bash on the hat. Steve will do that for free. Which brings the price of the 2 closer. Also If I remember correcly Steve may offer a slight discount for C.O.W. members.
Cheers,
G-MANN

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:56 am

Thanks for your comments G-MANN and Ragingblues.

What confuses me mostly is that nobody supports the HJ.
I am not looking for the super hat.
I am looking for the actual hat Harrison Ford was wearing in the film. I am not looking for the hat that Indiana Jones would wear if he existed.

Is the HJ 95% close enough to the hat Harrison Ford wore in the movie?

Please answer.

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:00 am

I have 6 Indy Fedoras but not one HJ so I cannot help you there, Sorry.
From reading many of the threads and posts here I get this:

HJ did make the Hat HF wore in the movie. HJ no longer uses the same block for shaping that hat. Therefore it is not the same hat he wore in the Movie anymore that they are currently producing.

Anyone? Please correct me if I am wrong.

Cheers,
G-MANN

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:01 am

You're right. If the HJ WAS the same hat in terms of quality and block that was used by Ford in the movies, you'd have a resounding YES!!! But it isn't. It's a wannbe with the HJ name now, and that's why there are so many GOOD substitutions available to fill the void that HJ left when they thumbed their noses at us, oft referred to as 'hobbiest' in the HJ shop so many years ago, and while they were obtaining cheaper felts and getting rid of the blocks used for the movies.

That said, it seems you're all about getting an HJ, so go for it, and not worry about others opinions here. It's YOU that has to be satisfied with what you get, and I have a feeling you're not going to be happy with anything but an HJ. I'd recommend you scratch that itch, and buy one from Todd.

High regards! Michaelson

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:08 am

2 factors influence my decision. The accuracy and the price.
I hear all of you saying that the AB is better than the HJ but when I look at the photographs at Todd's site or at idyfedora.com I see the same hat I see in the AB site. (Unless if they ship something different than what is shown in the fotos)

I suppose you are aware of the prices

HJ from indyfedora.com is priced at $233
HJ from Todd's costumes costs $239
AB costs $250 (beaver)

Based on the fact that the all the hats look OK to me in the photos I really can't decide. I do not care about 100% accuracy and the HJ I see in the photos looks fine.

I have both the HJ from todd's and the grea Adventurebilt made by the master Mr Stve Delk

This should tell you already where I'm going to send you to.

The AB is so much better in so many ways. The Hj I got from todd tappered in less than to months and never saw rain. The Ab on the other hand is doing just great and has seen rain for about a year and a half.

If you buy a HJ don't ever take a look at a AB in person you will just have hate yourself. I feel like I wasted a lot of money on my HJ. I would have loved to take that money and spend it on something else ( like another AB

).

PLATON · Post by **PLATON** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:23 am

Thanks for all your comments guys. You are very helpful.
I appreciate the fact that you all without exceptions support the AB and because first I care about getting a hat with the raiders look I will get the AB.

The HJ in the pics below looks a lot like the hat in the film

http://www.toddscostumes.com/images/ind ... -large.jpg

http://www.toddscostumes.com/images/ind ... -large.jpg

http://www.indyfedora.com/indyfedora1.jpg

but I am worried that what if I buy it I will receive something that won't look exactly like these pics.

Therefore, as I said above, will get the AB (and maybe the HJ some time later in the future).

Again thanks you were all very helpful.

G-MANN · Post by **G-MANN** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:27 am

I am sure you will be happy with it. As I said before, I have 6 Indy Fedoras and the AB is the nicest of them all. I have another AB on order with Steve and an AB Deluxe on order with Marc in Germany. If that will tell you how much I like my 1st AB.
Cheers,
G-MANN

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 1:34 pm

PLATON wrote:but I am worried that what if I buy it I will receive something that won't look exactly like these pics.

Todd can get the bash right, as you saw in those pics. I don't doubt that he can it to look like that - but the point as noted by jpenman, Michaelson, and others is that it will likely not look like that for very long. You would be initially satisfied, but possibly not for very long, due to the quality of the felt. That is their concern, that you be aware of that before you buy.

Personally, I would also recommend the AB, but I do not own an HJ.

J