Lookin' for pics of a wested with tapered sleeves

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:45 pm

Does anyone of you can show me pics of a his/her wested jacket with tapered sleeves please?

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:00 pm

Yes Please, I'd like to see some pics of that too.

Doug C

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:01 pm

Kt Templar... don't be shy!! Show us your jacket !

Colby · Post by **Colby** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:54 pm

Did you decide on having tapered sleeves on your jacket erri?

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:56 pm

Colby wrote:Did you decide on having tapered sleeves on your jacket erri?

Yes i did

Colby · Post by **Colby** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:59 pm

If mine had them I would post pics of it but my old bomber jacket did. Although I think its a bad example since I don't know how the wested looks in comparison. I didn't like the tapered sleeves on my bomber though, it had the elastic cuffs and the sleeves were too short for me so it always rode up my arm. I always hated those cuffs.

But I have a Wested now and it fits perfect! $\:D/$ You will really enjoy it!

Which reminds me I never did get pics of it made.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:24 pm

Ok Erri, seeing as it's you.

http://public.fotki.com/KtTemplar/

I personally love the taper, it is not drastic but I tried on some standard sleeves and my feeble 9-5 computer wrists floated around in them. So I tried on the tapered MUCH better. As always YMMV!

Colby · Post by **Colby** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:28 pm

Ahh those are much nicer tapered sleeves than my bomber jackets. They had extreme taper. I think its just the way they were made. They would start out huge at one end near the shoulder and taper into a cloth and elastic cuff.

I like the look of the tapered wested sleeves.

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:31 pm

my wrists are very thin. I think the tapered sleeves were NEEDED for my jacket

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:54 pm

I think mine are tapered; they look just like KT's. -Nice jacket, by the way. I like that you're sleeves are long. Mine are the same length. If you notice, Indy's were quite long as well.

BTW, what gun is that? It looks very nice.

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:02 pm

Hemingway Jones wrote: BTW, what gun is that? It looks very nice.

That gun impresses everyone here!

i asked the same question some time ago

It looks very nice.

Hemingway... did you get tapered sleeves witout asking for them?

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:06 pm

erri_wan wrote:
Hemingway Jones wrote: BTW, what gun is that? It looks very nice.
That gun impresses everyone here! i asked the same question some time ago
It looks very nice.

Hemingway... did you get tapered sleeves witout asking for them?

I bought my Wested before I got to this forum. I asked Peter to make me a Raider's jacket as acurrate as possible to what he did for Harrison Ford and he said he would. That was the only instruction beyond my measurements that I gave. I think, from this, he gave me tapered sleeves because they look like KT's and they really aren't as "open" as other jackets I own.

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:11 pm

Hemingway Jones wrote:I think mine are tapered; they look just like KT's. -Nice jacket, by the way. I like that you're sleeves are long. Mine are the same length. If you notice, Indy's were quite long as well.

BTW, what gun is that? It looks very nice.

Hi HJ,

The sleeves have actually ridden up a little, maybe 1/2 an inch in the few months I have worn it. Now an almost perfect length.

The gun is a toy spring airsoft, nice but still a toy!

and far too modern.

Like this:

http://bbgunsuk.co.uk/store/customer/pr ... 263&page=1

Can be had for around £25 in the UK so not cheap and made of ABS. I'd love to have a metal gas powered one but can't find a wooden handled one in the UK. (Can't afford the £150ish price tag either - maybe there will be a bit of a firesale when that VCR bill comes therough).

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:50 pm

Oh, OK, I've seen that one around. And yes, it is quite modern, especially in the grips, but when it is in your hand it looks awesome!

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:12 pm

You want tapered, here you go. I asked for tapered sleeves and tighter sleeves all around. I also specified the diameter of the opening. I hate having the sleeve openings too big. I think it is uncomfortable and looks goofy. Here is what I have.

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:19 pm

looks very good Rick! Very nice looking jacket. You're right about the diameter... i didn't think of that. I hate when it's too big in shirts ... in jackets i don't know. I wait for my jacket then i'll see how it looks

thanks for sharing rick

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:15 am

What do you guy's mean by tappered sleaves? All jackets and shirt are tappered.

Mr. Das · Post by **Mr. Das** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:34 am

The Indy jacket is a barrell cuff. There is some taper, but some people find they require more.

I have a pretty big wrist, but I also requested tapered sleeves after I didn't like the open air too much on my previous jacket. Zero regrets about the taper.

Krzysztof Smigiel · Post by **Krzysztof Smigiel** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:06 am

You can look at these shots as well. The jacket is a Wested's raiders style made of goatskin.

http://public.fotki.com/KrzysiekS/raide ... by_wested/

Regards,
Krzysiek

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:23 am

Thank you all guys... seeing these pics i'm happier and happier i chose the tapered sleeves.
Soon (hopefully) my jacket will arrive so i'll add that one to the list too

The real Henry · Post by **The real Henry** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:50 pm

@Kt Templar: I wanted to buy this gun I found out that the power is a bit under that, what I wanted, so how wide does it shoot?

Kt Templar · Post by **Kt Templar** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:05 pm

My image hosting site keeps a record of the number of hits and views of the images in an album I can't see the people viewing so don't worry, but it is always fun to see what hits the buttons of Indygear fans.

So tapered sleeves are far more interesting than satin linings!

Henry the M19 Spring is marked as being .5 joule. It fires probably about 30 feet with any degree of accuracy, but having shot myself in the hand by mistake at point blank range I can tell you it stings!

Indiana · Post by **Indiana** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:30 pm

Hey, I like those, I like those a lot! Theres another thing to add to the list for my next Wested...

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:42 pm

Hey Rick5150, I really like the look of your jacket.. I think the fit is about as close as I've seen to what HF wore in Raiders. Basically by asking for the narrower sleave openings it seems like you've eliminated the blousy look of the more recent jackets. I'll have to remember to ask for the same when I get another.

Doug C

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:44 pm

Doug C wrote: I'll have to remember to ask for the same when I get another.

Doug C

too late for me

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:06 am

Doug C wrote:Hey Rick5150, I really like the look of your jacket.. I think the fit is about as close as I've seen to what HF wore in Raiders. Basically by asking for the narrower sleave openings it seems like you've eliminated the blousy look of the more recent jackets. I'll have to remember to ask for the same when I get another.

Doug C

Thanks DougC, I appreciate that. The overall fit of the jacket is slimmer than all the other ones I have as well. I like a tight-fitting, yet non-restricting jacket. The bulky ones are irritating to me.

Skippy · Post by **Skippy** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:24 pm

Yep, nice looking jacket Rick, but you've opened yourself up to loads of questions posts one so good looking

Which leather is that & which colour?

Was that jacket made to your measurements, or was it one of your eBay purchases?

If it was done to your measurements, did you ask for a slim fitting jacket/'80's fit?

If it wasn't, can you tell if that jacket has a reverse taper on the edges of the back action pleat panel?

(Basically it seems like you have alot of room across the shoulders, with a good slim fitting jacket around the body, which is what I could do with!)

Did you weather that jacket naturally? (as best a Rick weathering can be called natural!

)

& Cripes! How did you get a jacket with a US zip on it? Is that jacket even a Wested?

Sorry!

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:58 pm

Wow, thanks again. Here goes:

Which leather is that & which colour?

Authentic Italian Lambskin

Was that jacket made to your measurements, or was it one of your eBay purchases?

This was my 4th jacket that I ordered from Wested

If it was done to your measurements, did you ask for a slim fitting jacket/'80's fit?

I ordered this one as my 3rd lambskin. The first one was way too big, so I asked for a smaller size and a slimmer fit. The next one was great, but it shrunk in the rain, so I gave it to my wife.

If it wasn't, can you tell if that jacket has a reverse taper on the edges of the back action pleat panel?

I asked Peter to taper the back panel an inch or two. I think it is more noticeable now than when I first got it though.

(Basically it seems like you have alot of room across the shoulders, with a good slim fitting jacket around the body, which is what I could do with!)

The jacket is comfortable when I wear it open. It is a little too tight in the chest when zipped. In fact, the chest tightness pulls the front up for that dreaded 1-1 ½” ride up. It is not as bad when unzipped.

Did you weather that jacket naturally? (as best a Rick weathering can be called natural! )

Not exactly. There is definitely some natural distressing there, but I hate a shiny new jacket. Especially after having broke in a few through the years. It takes a long time – and when you are rotating 6-7 jackets, they never look broken in. So a little alcohol to dull the shine, a little acetone to age the seams and a few choice areas, then Mother Nature finishes the job. And finish it, she did. During a hike to Mt. Eisenhower, no sooner did I break the tree line on a very clear day, did the clouds roll in. That jacket got soaked good. I have and will always say that allowing water to saturate the jacket adds a puffiness to it that cannot be achieved otherwise. It unfortunately adds a bit of shrinkage. There is also some abuse from falling down, sliding on ricks, rubbing up against branches and making my own paths when I do not like the ones that are already there.

If I had it to do all over, I would have specified 1 ½” to the front of the jacket and ordered the TOD length. Once the shrinking was all over, the jacket would be perfect.

The ideal jacket would have the leather washed and shrunk, and the liner washed and shrunk prior to construction of the jacket. Then you would have a jacket that would never shrink. Yeah, I know – it is not meant to be a rain jacket, but sometimes you only have what you bring with you.

& Cripes! How did you get a jacket with a US zip on it? Is that jacket even a Wested?

I asked

Sorry!

No need to be sorry. If you are good, I will tell you how I shrunk my size 42 PD cowhide to a 38 by putting it in the washing machine and the dryer. With low heat. No, I am not kidding and NO, I do not in any way wish to advocate this to anyone. I have quite a few jackets to mess with and it gets me crazy when they are too big.

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:37 pm

If I had it to do all over, I would have specified 1 ½” to the front of the jacket and ordered the TOD length

Rick, just to be clear are you saying you would have ordered a TofD plus an extra 1.5 inches or just asked for the extra 1.5 ? I like your line of thinking on getting the right fit, it's not an easy matter if you ask me.

Doug C

Doug C · Post by **Doug C** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:40 pm

Oh, and sorry for the thread highjack -Erri.

Rick, do you account for shrinking sleeves when you place an order? And my how much?

Doug C

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:31 pm

Doug C wrote:
If I had it to do all over, I would have specified 1 ½” to the front of the jacket and ordered the TOD length
Rick, just to be clear are you saying you would have ordered a TofD plus an extra 1.5 inches or just asked for the extra 1.5 ? I like your line of thinking on getting the right fit, it's not an easy matter if you ask me.

Doug C

Yes. The jacket right now is a hair shorter than I like so the TOD jacket would have taken care of that. The extra 1.5" in front would only help level it a bit. If it was reversed, so the the front was a little longer than the back, that would be fine as well.

Doug C wrote:Rick, do you account for shrinking sleeves when you place an order? And my how much?

The sleeves are a given as they will shrink, although they never seem to shrink as much as the back panel. The sleeves are more likely to lose length as it gets tied up in the wrinkles that will form at the elbows.

I am almost tempted to buy a new one a few sizes too large and soak that sucker down and shrink it. Only then will I never worry about getting it wet again.

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:05 am

Here's a pic of my old jacket with tapered sleeves from last year.

Wow,my girls have really grown since this was taken (and we've had another one in the meantime!)

Al

Ghos7a55assin · Post by **Ghos7a55assin** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:09 pm

Wow! That's picture shows taper really well! My sleeves are tapered, as my Chinese bone structure has given me thin wrists. They work.

Skippy · Post by **Skippy** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:43 pm

Sorry to drag this up again, but...

Rick & Michaelson - I get the impression from your posts that Lambskin has a definate susceptibility to shrinking not only from getting wet, but also from the general wrinkles of wear. Correct?

So does Goatskin suffer from the same thing?

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 6:09 am

Wow, me and Michaelson in the same sentence. That only usually happens when discussing artificial distressing vs. natural distressing.

My Goat did not shrink like my lamb. But what put my lamb over the edge is getting it absolutely soaking wet from an unpredicted rainstorm above the treeline. I brought the lamb as a windbreaker, not a raincoat, but alas, what happened, happened.

I had a cowhide shrink, but that was intentional as it was 2 sizes too large and I put it through the washing machine and dried it on low heat. Everything you are not supposed to do. I checked it every 10 minutes or so and pulled it out when it fit the way I wanted.

With real shrinkage, the leather gets physically smaller as does the liner. You have to be really careful that the liner does not shrink too much as it will pull the jacket with it and give all kinds of weird bumps and bulges.

Again, my references to shrinking involve the jacket actually getting smaller. Sleeve ride-up, for example is not what I consider shrinkage. The sleeves are technically the same length but some material is caught up in the wrinkles.