An updated musette bag

Heliograph · Post by **Heliograph** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:06 pm

I received a catalog today with this gem in it. It occurred to me that it might be something a 21st Century Indiana Jones might carry. It is called a "Fatboy" and is made by Maxpedition. I often wondered why valuable stuff didn't fall out of Indy's musette bag.

It occurs to me there might be other modern equivalents ti Indy's garb and gear.

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:36 pm

Looks like it would make an excellent camera bag.

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:50 pm

There is some great gear out there, but I won't wear it because it has logos on it. Never liked that much...

Post by **Ken** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:56 pm

Whats so bad about logos? I mean I can understand not simply being a sheep and subscribing to the current trend of purchasing somethign JUST because it is a particular brand (although if you think about it thats what we do on this site in some way its just a less conventional logo)? Surely being soley anti-logo is intself a similar kind of dictate (altbeit it one created by yourself rather than corporations)?

Me I would not set out to get a particular branded product but equally I would not reject it because of a logo - it simply is not important to me.

Ken

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:04 pm

No feeling either way on logos, but they are often easy to remove. Especially that one, which only appears to be stitched on.

Forrest_Bell · Post by **Forrest_Bell** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:12 pm

I dont think you were posting the best picture concerning gear here...

HOWS THIS!!
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Actually they do have some really nice stuff on there.

Indiana Jess · Post by **Indiana Jess** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:34 pm

Heliograph wrote:I received a catalog today with this gem in it. It occurred to me that it might be something a 21st Century Indiana Jones might carry. It is called a "Fatboy" ...

It might be a bit redundant for me to wear it.

Heliograph · Post by **Heliograph** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:58 pm

As a new guy I was being politically correct. There was a time I used "Broomhandle Davis" as a screenname and there was a controversy because I used an 1896 Broomhandle Mauser for my avatar.

The version I'd get of this piece of gear is the desert tan version that would match the holster (or rather replace the desert tan Sig-Sauer P226 holster) that I wore in Bagram and Kandahar.

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:29 am

Indiana Ken wrote:Whats so bad about logos? I mean I can understand not simply being a sheep and subscribing to the current trend of purchasing somethign JUST because it is a particular brand (although if you think about it thats what we do on this site in some way its just a less conventional logo)? Surely being soley anti-logo is intself a similar kind of dictate (altbeit it one created by yourself rather than corporations)?

Me I would not set out to get a particular branded product but equally I would not reject it because of a logo - it simply is not important to me.

Ken

Wow, you take this serioulsly

Personally, I find that visible logos ruin the look of the gear. It has nothing to do with the brand either. My taste. I just do not like them. The standard tags are fine, as they are normally not visible. Wested, Adventurebilt, MBA, etc. All great products with the logos where they belong. On the inside.

Not many of us keep the metal "Indiana Jones" pin on their hats if they are going to actually wear them. Picture if the Wested name was stamped into the leather over the left breast like LL Bean does sometimes, the MBA label was embroidered on the pocket, the Aldens had a leather stamp on them, etc. It just cheapens the look.

Urban Raider · Post by **Urban Raider** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:49 am

Ha, so thats another reason I love my mk7! No logo, felt there was another thing to love about that piece, thx for remind me! Honestly, would Indy run around looking as a pizza comercial?

Urban Raider · Post by **Urban Raider** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:05 am

I know u know I only posted that to get another hat!

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:24 am

rick5150 wrote:Wow, you take this serioulsly Personally, I find that visible logos ruin the look of the gear. It has nothing to do with the brand either. My taste. I just do not like them. The standard tags are fine, as they are normally not visible. Wested, Adventurebilt, MBA, etc. All great products with the logos where they belong. On the inside.

Not many of us keep the metal "Indiana Jones" pin on their hats if they are going to actually wear them. Picture if the Wested name was stamped into the leather over the left breast like LL Bean does sometimes, the MBA label was embroidered on the pocket, the Aldens had a leather stamp on them, etc. It just cheapens the look.

And on LL Bean's bomber jackets, they have the good sense to keep the logos off the outside.
I agree about logos. I am not real comfortable with them, though I do have some Lacoste Polo shirts, which is the brand that invented the logo! Still, I would rather keep the brands I buy to myself.

Though, I must also say, that there are some brands that I will buy exclusively that usually do with quality or fit. Like LL Bean, I will buy them, but I wouldn't buy Edie Baurer or Lands End. Why? Because I have had good luck with Bean and I know all of my sizes. I also like Barbour, Harris Tweed, and Brigg because I have had good luck with them and I feel they are of high quality.

This bag looks very nice. If I were to buy one, I would probably leave the lable on. The only thing worse than a logo is the square discolored section with broken threads framing it from where the logo used to be.

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:37 am

Hemingway Jones wrote: The only thing worse than a logo is the square discolored section with broken threads framing it from where the logo used to be

Isn't that considered "distressing?"

Post by **Ken** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:21 am

rick5150 wrote:
Not many of us keep the metal "Indiana Jones" pin on their hats if they are going to actually wear them. Picture if the Wested name was stamped into the leather over the left breast like LL Bean does sometimes, the MBA label was embroidered on the pocket, the Aldens had a leather stamp on them, etc. It just cheapens the look.

Ah now this I understand! Sorry I guess I just know quite a few people who are very anti-corporation and was wondering if that was your reasoning. I totally agree that a logo being present can ruin the overall look of a gear item. When it comes to somethign functional for me though I really dont mind.

Ken

Heliograph · Post by **Heliograph** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:07 pm

rick5150 wrote:
Not many of us keep the metal "Indiana Jones" pin on their hats if they are going to actually wear them. Picture if the Wested name was stamped into the leather over the left breast like LL Bean does sometimes, the MBA label was embroidered on the pocket, the Aldens had a leather stamp on them, etc. It just cheapens the look.

The problem here is this bit of kit has a decidedly military appearance (it comes in OD, desert tan, and camouflage) so the label distinguishes its origin and indicates its general availability. When you walk through customs it is good not too assume too warlike or they will conclude that you are like Brigadier Gerard's men, who carried "their passports in the limbers of their guns."

I think it's easily snipped off.

Indiana Texas-girl · Post by **Indiana Texas-girl** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:46 am

Is there a link for this bag?

Skippy · Post by **Skippy** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:27 am

Heliograph wrote:
rick5150 wrote:When you walk through customs it is good not too assume too warlike or they will conclude that you are like Brigadier Gerard's men, who carried "their passports in the limbers of their guns."

Yeah, flying out through Heathrow to China with my MKVII, as I passed it to the guy on the security screening for x-ray, he commented "Ah! Never know when your going to need your gas mask". Plum

So were Brigadier Gerard's men merc's? I'm not familiar with the history/story?

Heliograph · Post by **Heliograph** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:43 am

ITT: The link is http://www.maxpedition.com/ It is called a "versipak" and it comes in two sizes, fatboy and jumbo (someone seems to have an obesity fixation).

"Fight or flight ware for ordinary life" is their motto. I think you of all forum members could pull off wearing one of these (applying feminine panache).

Brigadier Gerard was the central character in a series of books written by Arthur Conan Doyle. He is a Napoleonic French general with perhaps more guts than brains. He is an antecedent of Harry Flashman. You can image how the French fare at the hands of English writers. Just think of Inspector Clouseau. They are funny.

What Gerard was saying is the French Army didn't have to show passports to customs during their prolonged European vacation.

Indiana Jess · Post by **Indiana Jess** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:53 pm

I like the bags, but as mentioned before, I don't care for logos. It's free advertising for them, like nike t-shirts and the @#$% like that. I'm not getting paid to be a company billboard.

Heliograph · Post by **Heliograph** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:01 pm

Indiana Jess wrote:I like the bags, but as mentioned before, I don't care for logos. It's free advertising for them, like nike t-shirts and the @#$% like that. I'm not getting paid to be a company billboard.

Happily, it is a free country. Chacun a son goute.

IllinoisJones · Post by **IllinoisJones** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:04 pm

I too am not a fan of visible logos, but in some cases, I will make an exception. This bag is nice, but it seems very bulky, and like it could get in he way during indys adventures.

Heliograph · Post by **Heliograph** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:13 pm

Now let's put this in perspective. I am disturbed we are taking a noticeably cosmetic approach to a elemental piece of gear.

A musette bag has the advantage, with one strap, of easily being discarded in a crisis. It does nave some disadvantages. For on thing, it is uncompartmented. It is dark and you reach down to pull out your whip and you grap the Cross of Coronado. Can you imagine how embarrassing that could be? It is all in one big jumble like a mail bag.

Say you have this golden idol. Not all native gold work is 24 carat. It is probably a purer standard and as a consequence, softer. Are you going to chuck your cellphone, GPS, Landrover keys, bullwhip, spare ammunition, and leatherman tool into the bag with the golden idol? You might as well toss it into the washing machine with a load of gravel.

And this idol, what's it going to weigh? A bar of bullion weighs well over a hundred pounds. Our golden idol is going to weigh AT LEAST half that. You want that kind of weight on a thin strap? It is not going to ride easily on your hip and the bag is going to sag decidedly into a collapsed "v."

Now the versipak is heavy nylon, compartmentalized, and has a heavy duty strap. The pockets are zippered -- no leakage. I'm going to lean, as I'm sure Indy would, toward the versipak type bag. If things are worth purlioning, they're worth purloining right, that's what I say. Keep the goods secure.

Now one strap has another drawback. Inversion. You can lose stuff (diamonds, rubies, emeralds) and you can lose it if inverted.

It seems Lara Croft (not the Hollywood version with the dark circles around her eyes) has benefited from Indy's experience. She wears a backpack with a sternum strap. That gal holds everything in place quite nicely. And her backpack is nice, too.

Skippy · Post by **Skippy** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:01 pm

Have to agree. The MKVII may not be modern, but it is still a great bit of gear!

The fact that it's not big doesn't lead you into the temptation of carrying more than you absolutely need

I've always been one for the LATEST bit of kit when I was in the army & now as a policeman; & I've carried various daysacks, small packs, Camelbaks, pouches & bags off-duty too, but I am so totally comfortable with my MKVII that after 6 weeks of carrying it everywhere I went round China & Mongolia, I cannot now do without it in my daily life

Heliograph · Post by **Heliograph** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:10 am

Indiana_Tone wrote:[...The MKVII doesn't have a whole lot of room in it; but there are separate compartments. Enough to carry a few things on a day hike. (There's also something neat about the simplicity of a gas mask bag that's been converted with a rifle sling to a catch-all bag that sits comfortably near the hip.) It also flattens when empty and can hardly be felt resting there when it is.
This Maxpedition bag looks like it hangs more along the side of the torso than off the hip (might be the picture).

My Maxpedition Versipak Jumbo came in last night. It is designed to ride on the hip (but can be jacked up like a shoulder holster, too, I think. It has an inside velcro fastening that can be attached to the wearer's belt which is positioned high on the interior of the pouch.

Let's see through in the Sig-Sauer p226, the Orienteering whistle, Petxl headlamp, Silva Ranger compass, tevek maps, blood chit, survival radio, six paperbacks, a digital camera, the collapsable blowgun, some snares, first aid kit, one idol...

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