HJ/SA Fedora

Harrison_Davies · Post by **Harrison_Davies** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:52 pm

Hi Peeps,

New to the forum.

I thought I'd share some information.
I spoke (emailed) to Swaine Adeney (Herbert Johnson) about a month ago, asking asking about their fedoras.

They stated that in 6 months time they were creating a new block for their Fedoras to match those of the Indy films.

They advised me that I should wait, since this replica would be as close to the orginal as possible, not a representation of their current model.

The cost if I remember correctly would be £165 - £195.

I myself intend on waiting till february, I fancy a fedora made by the original suppliers.

They did state that they would contact me when the block was ready.

Thought you aficionados may be interested.

Regards,

Flattery · Post by **Flattery** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:08 pm

Hi there, welcome!

Thanks for the info -- much appreciated.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:12 pm

Talk about a first post! Welcome aboard!

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Indiana Williams · Post by **Indiana Williams** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:14 pm

Welcome to C.O.W Harrison,
Thanks for the news. If the new HJs are going to cost between $300-350 bucks, I think ill stick with Adventurebilts

Best Regards,
Joe

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:22 pm

True, but if they end up using the original block like another member reported, then it may be worth it to some to finally get "the" HJ they've been wanting for a very long time! Still, I'd rather pay less for a pure beaver hat. If they can keep it at or below $300 US, then I can see a lot of people going for it.

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BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:27 pm

I'll think I'll wait to someone else jumps on it first.

Harrison_Davies · Post by **Harrison_Davies** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:29 pm

Thanks for the welcome, much appreciated.

Let's just hope they get it right.....

Regards,

prairiejones · Post by **prairiejones** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:31 pm

I'm with Bink and Will. For a bit more I can buy a beaver AB AND the block it is made on.

Indiana Williams · Post by **Indiana Williams** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:37 pm

Im probably not going to buy one but i cant wait to see what they look like.hopefully it will be an exact copy of the original hats.
- Joe

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:50 am

harrisondavies wrote:Thanks for the welcome, much appreciated.

Let's just hope they get it right.....

Regards,

That's a good point. What specs are they going off of? In any case, it is sounding like they a turning a corner in the Indy hat market which is long overdue.

pyr.

Harrison_Davies · Post by **Harrison_Davies** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:00 am

Hi,

Actually I have no idea on that point, but I will email the guy and ask him.

Regards,

Harrison_Davies · Post by **Harrison_Davies** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:55 am

Hi,

Here is the original reply i got from Paul at SA.

I have still yet to confirm whether they intend using white lining, and what reference they intend using.

"Dear Sir,

Thank you for your email.
Mr. Swales retired a few years ago so I am replying on his behalf.
The replica hat we currently have does come with the 39mm Brown ribbon but is a slightly different felt than the one used for the original. The lining is also Black rather than White.
I have placed a link below which gives a little more information on the hat we currently retail.
We are currently in the process of reintroducing the original felt and changing the blocking process so the hat in the future is closer to the original, but this will take around six months. If you can afford to wait I would advise you to do so as you will receive a far closer hat to the original used.
If you are buying the hat because you like the look of it and do not require it to be an exact replica go ahead and order it from our site.

Kind regards,

Paul Vanoli

http://swaineadeney.co.uk//perl2/v2.cgi ... ture-goods "

Regards,

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:41 am

Well, it at least sounds like HJ is more willing to talk with the Indy fans again, even if it is via e-mail. I wonder how many gearheads it took before they realized they should look into bringing back the original specs?

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Marc · Post by **Marc** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:02 am

Hmmm... interesting news indeed. I do however have a sort of deja vu experience here. It's not the first time they talked about improving their "Indy", but I honestly keep my fingers crossed that they do.

Many fans want "THE original" and for many that just is the HJ. Period. I'd like to see a well made Indy Fedora from them for sure. Granted, 300$ is a lot of money for a pure rabit, especially considering the price for a rabit raw body (even in the best quality available).

BUT, as a WEARABLE collectible I think it's ok. If the sweatband quality and craftmanship are on par with what I've seen on Anjali's vintage HJ, why not?

It sort of reminds me of the grail diary: some prefer an exact replica of the actual prop - incl. most pages repeated several of times throughout the book. I reckon the same people would probably dig this "new" HJ. Then there are those, who want a grail diary "as it COULD have been" - with a story that can be read. I reckon these people would prefer a hand made hat from the best materials available or a vintage hat. Something a charakter like Indiana Jones would have worn.

I think there can't be enough choices!

Regards,

Marc

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:34 am

Welcome Harrison! I am a big Tru Calling fan as well.

This may be good news for some, but at the price, you are getting a lower quality fur that needs to have a block replicated. In other words, a new owner, with a new block using a sub-quality fur (as opposed to the beaver offerings we have available) using a different lining at a cost that means you are still paying for the name.

Not to knock them, but this is no more the "original" hat than any other offering out there. Of course, the more the merrier though.

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:08 am

You know, Todd mentioned a new block shape for the HJ, here awhile back. Seems like HJ is working on improving and that is a good thing. I will buy one from Todd when this gets in, so I think we will be able to get them cheaper over here.

If you are in contact with them, ask them to bring back the old HJ crest, as the oval was not used on the Raiders hat. It was either the hexagon or a pentagon burgurdy crest, or it may have been this one.

Fedora

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:27 am

I took care of that yesterday my friend.

Regards,

Marc

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:36 pm

Umm....If I remember correctly, they told someone a little while back, that they were going to start using the original block, which they had found, and the go back to the original felt supplier.

Now, they say that they are in the process of making a new block. I am not really sure what they are planning on doing. I do hope that they finally get the details right.

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:10 pm

rick5150 wrote:Welcome Harrison! I am a big Tru Calling fan as well.

oops! Just saw your signature. This is what I was referring to:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364817/

Shawn Reeves plays Harrison Davies.

Harrison_Davies · Post by **Harrison_Davies** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:02 pm

Yeah I was well pleased to see my name in big lights...I should get royalties lol.

Yeah I was named after Harrison Ford.

Regards,

nicmusto · Post by **nicmusto** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:06 pm

Sounds good, but having just got a HJ last month from the shop, I find it strainge that the email says they were going to change the liner from black back to white. They are all white liners now!??

Harrison_Davies · Post by **Harrison_Davies** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:54 pm

I think I must have been under a spell, could have sworn they were black. But cool that clears up that one hehe.

How do you rate your HJ?

Did it come pre-bashed or already bashed?

Regards,

Harrison_Davies · Post by **Harrison_Davies** » Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:45 pm

Harrison_Davies wrote:Hi Peeps,

New to the forum.

I thought I'd share some information.
I spoke (emailed) to Swaine Adeney (Herbert Johnson) about a month ago, asking asking about their fedoras.

They stated that in 6 months time they were creating a new block for their Fedoras to match those of the Indy films.

They advised me that I should wait, since this replica would be as close to the orginal as possible, not a representation of their current model.

The cost if I remember correctly would be £165 - £195.

I myself intend on waiting till february, I fancy a fedora made by the original suppliers.

They did state that they would contact me when the block was ready.

Thought you aficionados may be interested.

Regards,

Well that ballooned in price since I was last here

. Typical when I’m in the market for a poet.

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Canyon · Post by **Canyon** » Mon Sep 16, 2024 8:55 pm

Harrison_Davies wrote: ↑ Well that ballooned in price since I was last here . Typical when I’m in the market for a poet.

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Hey Harrison! Long time, no see!

Harrison_Davies · Post by **Harrison_Davies** » Tue Sep 17, 2024 5:08 am

Canyon wrote:
Harrison_Davies wrote: ↑ Well that ballooned in price since I was last here . Typical when I’m in the market for a poet.

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Hey Harrison! Long time, no see!

Hiya Canyon, yeah, life got in the way. But DoD and the new upcoming game dragged me back in haha. Hope you’re well.

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Canyon · Post by **Canyon** » Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:30 am

I'm doing well, thanks! Have been living in the States for 13 years now.

Harrison_Davies · Post by **Harrison_Davies** » Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:33 am

Canyon wrote:I'm doing well, thanks! Have been living in the States for 13 years now.

Oh my word. Time flies. I’m jealous lol.

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