My Federation, turned and rebashed

prairiejones · Post by **prairiejones** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:11 am

My Federation, turned and rebashed. Thanks J_Weaver, for pushing me.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/ ... ure233.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/ ... ure237.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/ ... ure236.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/ ... ure239.jpg

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:21 am

Looks even better!

I didn't push, I just gave you a little encouragement.

Feraud · Post by **Feraud** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:28 am

prairiejones, how long was the original bash in the hat?
I wonder if turning my hat(approx. 8 months old) will have a strange effect on the original crease.....

prairiejones · Post by **prairiejones** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:51 am

One week. Here is how I do the pinch. I think it helped get rid of the first one. I first start the pinch with my fingers with cold water.
I then put this piece of wood inside to keep the pinch from being too tight.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/ ... ure241.jpg
I then take a piece of cloth(in this case a piece of t-shirt)and fold it so that it is fairly thick. I then put it over the pinch and then put clothes pins over that. Don't make the cloth so thick that the clothes pins won't fit over. This is done over a damp pinch, then it sat over night.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/ ... ure249.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/ ... ure245.jpg
I do the same thing for the top point(arrow head).

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:49 pm

WOW impressive method... tomorrow i'm gonna work on my AB too

Indiana Wayne · Post by **Indiana Wayne** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:19 am

Do you know how many times I have reshaped my AB since it tapered?

Feraud · Post by **Feraud** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:41 am

Indiana Wayne wrote:Do you know how many times I have reshaped my AB since it tapered?

How long have you had your AB and it tapered? I thought these thing were near indestructable?

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:44 am

Feraud wrote:
Indiana Wayne wrote:Do you know how many times I have reshaped my AB since it tapered?
I thought these thing were near indestructable?

I heard of it too

prairiejones · Post by **prairiejones** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:06 am

I would think that every felt hat is going to eventually taper, based on conditions and care. The good thing with the AB is that Fedora has the block and can re-block them. I've even read where he has re-blocked other brands (Akubra) on his block. According to him, this is more difficult bacause the hat wasn't made on his block, therefore, there is less material to work with. Steve, correct me if I'm wrong.

Indiana Wayne · Post by **Indiana Wayne** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:07 am

erri_wan wrote:
Feraud wrote:
Indiana Wayne wrote:Do you know how many times I have reshaped my AB since it tapered?
I thought these thing were near indestructable?
I heard of it too

All hats will taper. My AB tapered Wed Jun 08, 2005.

Did My AB Taper?

Erri · Post by **Erri** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:10 am

How did it taper? Heavy rain or something?

Feraud · Post by **Feraud** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:15 am

I agree all hats taper eventually. Depending on use, weather, etc. In this case I was wondering how long it took Indiana Wayne's particular hat to taper. I see from the link provided the hike in the heavy rain did it. I admit I am a bit surprised that one good soaking did it...

Indiana Wayne · Post by **Indiana Wayne** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:25 am

erri_wan wrote:How did it taper? Heavy rain or something?

I was in heavy rain for two hours. I also had something under the sweatband to make the hat wear higher on my head. If I put something under the sweatband and still wore it lower on my head, it would make the hat look tapered. If I had something under the sweatband in heavy rain for two hours, and still wore the hat lower of my head, the hat would taper and I think this is what happened. Does all of this makes sense?

prairiejones · Post by **prairiejones** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:39 am

Wayne, is that hat bunny rabbit of beaver?

On topic, here is my newly turned and rebashed Federation. Without my mug in it.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b225/ ... ure252.jpg

Indiana Wayne · Post by **Indiana Wayne** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:35 am

prairiejones wrote:Wayne, is that hat bunny rabbit of beaver?

Rabbit.

PrairieJones, you have the best Akubra I have seen! Nice picture!

The real Henry · Post by **The real Henry** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:44 am

Hey Prairie, your Akubra looks still great, but Ithink you shouldn't rebash it any longer. I did that and my hat got more and more tapered!

prairiejones · Post by **prairiejones** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 12:58 pm

I hear ya Henry. This waws the third bash. The first when I got it (turned). One more(unturned) And again turned. Now I love it. The only thing I do now is rough it up every now and then.

The real Henry · Post by **The real Henry** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:12 pm

That's exactly what I did and after all I had to reblock and now it looks GREAT! $\:D/$

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:04 am

Prairie / COW:

Can you guys post some explanations for me?
Thanks - really appreciate it ...
Q1: Can you briefly explain the term "turn"?
Q2: Why do you re-crease the pinch? (Did it start to disappear or were you just trying to achieve a modified [screen] look)?
Q3: How do you achieve the 'camel hump' effect? (*Does this increase the chance of pre-mature taper?)
Q4: Do any of these modifications, involve adjusting the top of the hat (the "ditch" <insert correct term> in the top of the crown)?

From what I gather, "taper" refers to the hat (from the front/back perspective) decreasing in diameter at the top of the crown (right?).
... like an upside-down snowcone, but not as dramatic an angle ...

:

I've only had my AB for a couple of months now - and have only been adjusting the brim so far (attempting to get more <fill in correct term> downward tilt in the front ... Strider broke the code for me on how to do this when I met up with him at Comic-Con - (in addition, he showed me how to adjust the left & right sides) ...

I looked at a lot of posts, that talk around these subjects ... but most don't go into much detail ...
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP GUYS !

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:19 am

A1: http://raidershat.com/ This will explain the turn.

A2: If your hat is unturned and you decide to turn it you have to adjust all the bashes. (dents) See A1.
A3: This one is hard to explain. To achieve the camel humps, the top of the frot pinch must be lower than the top of the crown. This requires that the top dent (ditch,as you call it

) be deeper. If you deepen the top dent too much it will cause the hat to taper. However, it is nothing serious, because you can just push the top dent back up.
A4: See above.
A5: You have the right idea, but it also refers to the hat from the side. a good example is to compare the plane hat in ToD and any of the hats in Raiders.

I hope I helped to answer your questions.

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:37 am

Thanks a lot, J_Weaver.
Looking at the website ... I think my hat was already turned by Fedora.
(since it is off-center already ...).
Based on your description, I believe I'll hold off on the camels until I meet up with some more COW members in person for a quick tutorial.

Thanks again !

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:40 am

No problem!

Yea, the camel hump thing is hard to expalin, at least for me. But don't be afraid to play around with your hat. They are really harder to hurt than on might think.

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:43 am

prairiejones wrote:My Federation, turned and rebashed. Thanks J_Weaver, for pushing me.

P.S.> Sorry for stealing attention away from your hat, PrairieJones.
BTW, not that I'm an expert (... all evidence to the contrary ...

), but - your hat looks great, Dude.

prairiejones · Post by **prairiejones** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:11 am

No problem. If I got decent camel humps out of mu Akubra Fed, you should get great ones out of you AB. Let me know if I can help. I can post some pics explaining techniques.

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