Maltese Falcon Bogey

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:30 pm

After trying to copy pics sent to me of the Bogey hat, here is what I came up with. Now, I was gratified to find that Bogey had the tight pinch on his at too, at least at the top. Check it out. Jim, your Bogey is on its way. Fedorahttp://public.fotki.com/Fedora/hats/bogey2.html

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:41 pm

Now that's one good looking hat. (said after a low wistle)

Jim is one fortunate soul.

Cheers!

Dan

Pyroxene · Post by **Pyroxene** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:55 pm

Has MK seen that hat? It would be interesting to hear his imput on it. He had done a lot of research on that hat.

Pyro.

Zach R. · Post by **Zach R.** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:16 pm

I was going to ask you by e-mail if you could do a Bogey hat for me, it appears that you can!

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:19 pm

Steve, did you sell your soul for this gift, or does it just come naturally?

bink

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:23 pm

Well done my friend. The crown looks to be creased spontanious, just like the one in the movie (no pun intended). Now how about one with a bound brim...

Regards,

Marc

Harry Steele · Post by **Harry Steele** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:41 pm

That is one sweet lid. Congrats, Steve. What are the specs? Beaver? Ribbon height? Crown? Brim? Curious minds . . . .

Cheers,
Harry

Indiana Cromeens · Post by **Indiana Cromeens** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:48 pm

Stunning, I want an adventurebuilt, If I'd found out out about it back in the day when I got my HJ I totally would have got one instead. Instead I just drool over the rest of the guys AB hats all day at COW. sigh I can almost feel it on my head now.

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:13 pm

What are the specs? Beaver? Ribbon height? Crown? Brim? Curious minds

First, thanks for the compliments. This is he Raiders gray beaver felt. Ribbon width is 2 inches, and the brim is 2 5/8. On the creased height, I do not know. I just looked at the pics Jim sent and tried to copy them. If my felt was just a bit thinner, I could have nailed that top crease. I do think if I would have softened the felt up, it would have had a softer look on the top. That is the only weakness that I could see. Fedora

prairiejones · Post by **prairiejones** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 6:17 pm

That hat is great. I love the thickness of the ribbon .

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:05 pm

And remember how one must wear a Bogie hat...
Awesome hat. I love it. You know, I just watching this movie again (I have it on DVD) the other night. It is such a great hat and looks great with so many different suits.
Awesome job, Fedora. -Just amazing.

Renderking Fisk · Post by **Renderking Fisk** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:19 pm

Which Bogie movie?

The one in The Maltese Falcon is a bit more "Crisp" like this one.

Oklahoma Jones · Post by **Oklahoma Jones** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:44 pm

NOW WHERE AM I SUPPOSED TO COME UP WITH THE BREAD TO GET ONE OF THOSE BEAUTIES?!?!?!?!?!?!?

WHAT A SWEET LID, STEVE!!

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:10 pm

This is EXACTLY what I wanted when I asked before....@#$%! I need a job!

Mattdeckard · Post by **Mattdeckard** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:05 am

Where did you get this image of Harrison in the grey hat?

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:08 am

Where did you get this image of Harrison in the grey hat?

I got that image from someone who emailed it to me to post here. A lurker, I think, as I did not know the person. I asked him the history of the pic ,but never heard from him again. Pagey thought it was faked. Is that the consensus of most folks here? I thought it looked rather genuine. Fedora

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:12 am

It looks fake to me also.

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:16 am

Fedora wrote:
Where did you get this image of Harrison in the grey hat?
I got that image from someone who emailed it to me to post here. A lurker, I think, as I did not know the person. I asked him the history of the pic ,but never heard from him again. Pagey thought it was faked. Is that the consensus of most folks here? I thought it looked rather genuine. Fedora

I think this needs to be posted over on the "Indy Greys" post. Is it faked? I don't know. If it is, it is a good one. It certainly answers the questions definitively if it is not. Does the suit match up to what is in that scene? If so, it would lend some credence. That little girl's haircut sure matches up to 1981; that whole "Dorothy Hammil" look. The focus is definitely set on the figures in the foreground, and it was a nice camera with an apperature setting set for portraits. A point-and-shot couldn't do an image like that. It sure looks like it was taken on set to me. I've seen a million similar images of some lucky person who is posing with a star on set.
However, it could be two distinct images. There is something strange going on with the right side of his ribbon. and the white of the gentleman behind him with his suit, looks a little strange. Still, the foreground pic could be right, but the background could have been added later.
I think this picture might need its own thread. It is an amazing image!

Mattdeckard · Post by **Mattdeckard** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:17 am

If it's a fake then I'm Mickey Mous!

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:21 am

I wish you fellows would render opinions based on something. It's real, it's not real, but why? Based on your knowledge and experience, why did you reach your conclusion? Thank you.

Renderking Fisk · Post by **Renderking Fisk** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:22 am

I found the picture on a website dedicated to the aircraft behind Ford and Ms. Carol.

That's all I could find.

Mattdeckard · Post by **Mattdeckard** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:22 am

Okay, with the images you have available of Ford and the plane, make an exact copy of that pic.

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:24 am

I think someone needs to look up "Carol Grant" and ask her. I wonder if she is related to Cary? Ms. Grant, do you remember a photo with Harrison Ford taken 25 years ago?

BTW, I love stuff like this.

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:41 am

Hemingway Jones wrote:I wish you fellows would render opinions based on something. It's real, it's not real, but why? Based on your knowledge and experience, why did you reach your conclusion? Thank you.

Thats a good point Hemingway. To me it looks like Indy and the girl have been placed on the background.

But I'm no expert, so I may be wrong.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:41 am

That definitely looks like the outfit Ford wore in the final staircase scene in Raiders. That photo looks like the quality photo done by a professional photographer, and not a snapshot type made by someone with a point and shoot camera. I believe it's real from what I can see in the shading and the sharpness of front image to rack out focus of the images in the background. You almost have to use a macro setting on your lense to achieve this effect, and it's done all the time with high end still cameras and element adjustable lenses in 120 format. Regards! Michaelson

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:50 am

I just blew the image up to a very large size and the thing that looks strange on his ribbon is the bow! Also, the edges transition perfectly. I am far from an expert, but I think it is real, mainly for the reason that Michaelson articulated above, much better than I had attempted to do.

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:51 am

See, I knew I was wrong!

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:52 am

Well, this thread is defintely non-Indy off topic.

What is that phrase? What's good for the goose...

...or is it, What's fair is...

I dunno.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:53 am

True, but it got swung to Indy, didn't ?

I was 'articulating' HJ??!!

Excuse me! I had no idea!

Regards! Michaelson

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:15 pm

Off topic??

Well, kinda, sorta..............

I was gratified to find that Bogey had the tight pinch on his at too, at least at the top.

A fine line, yes, but a line nonetheless.

Fedora

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:06 pm

I don't want you to get me wrong, Steve. I personally think we should be able to post these sorts of things here for the sake of the whole community who may be more than interested, but the mods have made it perfectly clear in the past that threads not pertaining to Indy gear or the films are off-topic and not for this site. I myself as well as many, many others have had threads shut down for this very reason which I've come to respect. I was politely trying to point out how this thread is remenicent of past threads that have been shut down and we even have mods posting on it. HOWEVER, as I said, I find nothing wrong with your bringing this hat to the attention of the board except that an exception was made in the rules where in other cases, it was not. Yes, it did get sorta moved to an Indy related thread, but I wanted to voice my opinion on the matter, which as many of you know, I've been known to do from time to time.

Hey, I know that alot of the gearheads are interested in this hat and that you are now THE go-to guy for Indy hats. I wish you luck with the new Bogie even though I know you don't need it cuz' you'll be selling the heck out of them. It looks great! Hope there are no hard feelings here. Nothing personal at all, just looking at the big picture. I'd have posted the same response had it been someone elses thread.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:31 pm

Let's clear something up, agent5, there are precedents for this type of posting. We have allowed vendors and individuals to post items that were made and/or sold by gear vendors of Indy items. We've had discussions of jackets made by Wested, but for other movies. We've had whipmakers who make Indy whips for us discuss whips they've made for other movies. There have been no problem with this happening, as there's been at least a link, thin as it may be, back to the original Indygear point of view. This loosening up of these type posts was done when MK was webmaster, and hasn't changed since Abner and Mike took charge.

The strings that cause problems are those that come completely out of left field and have absolutely NO connection to an Indy vendor what so ever. Those will continue to be shut down, or at least questioned by the moderators. We even allowed your topic that you created when the Chicago Convention took place to continue to it's conclusion. It had nothing to do with Indy at all, but just the fact that you and several others were going there in gear represented the very hobby, and therefore was left intact. The same goes for other conventions that are posted here...eg., all the Star Wars stuff. They were eventually deleted, but were given time to get info out before being shut down. If you'll recall, those type posts were never allowed prior to MK's change of policy. You also know he was the one that introduced that policy, as you were involved with the recent one where he started discussing the Casablanca plane in the middle of the Disney Well of Souls string. Things are a lot looser in that respect, and have been for some time.

So, this particular string, though not Indy connected, isn't a first, and shouldn't cause anyone heartburn. If it does, I'm not sure why, as it's been done many times to date and there have not been any complaints. Why now?

I hope this helps clear the air. If not, please contact me offline and we'll try and clear things up.

Regards! Michaelson

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:37 pm

It is the Raiders gray beaver felt, that sounds Indy related to me. It was just styled a little differently this time around.

I guess this photo kind of puts an end to the brown hat/ gray hat argument, huh. Actually, I am seeing a brown hat on my monitor!

Just kidding!

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:39 pm

BURN HIM!!!!!

(grins)

Regards! Michaelson

agent5 · Post by **agent5** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:23 pm

The air around here smells fresh.

Thanks, Michaelson.

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:40 pm

Michaelson wrote:BURN HIM!!!!!

(grins)

Regards! Michaelson

Jpenman! Jpenman!

Where's a fireman when you need one!

Miachaelson is chasing me around with a hot cup of coffee and a torch.

jeboat · Post by **jeboat** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:27 pm

As an ameteur photographer I am always interested in controversial shots like this one.

It is not a bit unusual to use fill flash when outdoors. It causes the subject (IJ and friend) to "pop" and subdues the background.

jeboat

BTW that Bogie is my hat!!!

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:55 pm

Nice job steve!

do you have that color in rabbit?

Regards,

Adam

Maltese Falcon Bogey

Maltese Falcon Bogey

picture of IJ and friend