The Lgenth of the handle

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Tue Oct 08, 2002 8:22 pm

I was Wondering About the Lgenth of the handle in raiders about how long is it , because i might get a bullwhip from cow whips. com and on the info page it says that he makes the whip handle super long! so whats the lgenth of the handle in raiders cause i need to find out!

_molorom

Sergei · Post by **Sergei** » Tue Oct 08, 2002 8:29 pm

Molorom wrote:I was Wondering About the Lgenth of the handle in raiders about how long is it , because i might get a bullwhip from cow whips. com and on the info page it says that he makes the whip handle super long! so whats the lgenth of the handle in raiders cause i need to find out!
_molorom

David Morgan uses an 8 inch nail spike for the handle foundation. The decorative knot on the handle can be found anywhere from 6 3/4" to 7 1/2". Rhett Kelly is a decent guy in the whip making world of nylon whips. Let us know how things work out. The nylon whips have the advantage of being cheaper and more tolerant of getting wet.

-S

Indiana Texas-girl · Post by **Indiana Texas-girl** » Tue Oct 08, 2002 9:41 pm

I'll have to 2nd Sergei's recommendation for Rhett. I cracked a 4 footer nylon snake whip of his this weekend and man it was fluid! When I got home I got online and immediately ordered one from him.

www.cowwhips.com

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 1:35 pm

The nylon whips have the advantage of being cheaper and more tolerant of getting wet.

David Morgan claims that you can completely immerse one of his whips in water to wash the dirt out of the lash. I have never even dared to attempt this, for fear of ruining one of my most prized possessions. Now I'm aware that kangaroo leather can get soaking wet, and dry perfectly soft. In fact, I've even tried it with my Geier gloves, and it works.
My other concern (and a very legitimate one) is that if I were to wash a David Morgan bullwhip, the iron handle might begin to rust or otherwise corrode, due to moisture trapped between the handle leather and the iron spike. Has anybody ever washed a David Morgan whip in water before? If so, how did it turn out?

-Dale

IndyFrench · Post by **IndyFrench** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:32 pm

I have never even cracked my David Morgan on sand or asphalt. Always grass. So, no, I have never submerged my David Morgan in water and NEVER will.

Now, my Mark Allen nylons, I have cracked them in RAINSTORMS! It's cool to crack a nylon in the rain b/c when the popper snaps, a massive mist of water explodes into the air.

I too plan to order a Rhett Kelley.

IndyFrench

The_Edge · Post by **The_Edge** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:51 pm

whipwarrior wrote: My other concern (and a very legitimate one) is that if I were to wash a David Morgan bullwhip, the iron handle might begin to rust or otherwise corrode, due to moisture trapped between the handle leather and the iron spike. Has anybody ever washed a David Morgan whip in water before? If so, how did it turn out?

-Dale

Not a problem. There are several layers of leather wrapped around the steel spike in a DM bullwhip not including the overlay. Also, the spike is galvinized. You'd have to let your whip soak or be completely submerged for several hours in order for the water to soak through to the nail and this unto itself is not recommended. However, simply running water over the handle and thong in order to rinse off dirt, mud, sand, grime, what have you will not harm the whip. Just towel it dry and give the handle a light coat of Pecard and the thong a heavier coat. Let the dressing soak in for several days and you're good to go.

Yes, I've done this to my DM453. I've used a damp sponge and Lexol to clean the entire whip and then rinsed it off in the sink.

-Kyle

whipwarrior · Post by **whipwarrior** » Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:21 pm

Sponge cleaning! How obvious! Why didn't I think of that before? It's perfect. A simple, yet effective way to apply water to a whip in a controlled manner, without immersing it in water. If I may be so kind as to commend you with Indy's words: "He was good. He was very, very good."

-Dale

Indiana Joe · Post by **Indiana Joe** » Tue Oct 22, 2002 6:27 am

IndyFrench wrote:Now, my Mark Allen nylons, I have cracked them in RAINSTORMS! It's cool to crack a nylon in the rain b/c when the popper snaps, a massive mist of water explodes into the air.

That sound cool!

For all the desire of pics around here, the nyon rain crack would be one to capture on film!

The_Edge · Post by **The_Edge** » Tue Oct 22, 2002 11:20 am

This spray of mist will happen with any whip (nylon or leather) that is being cracked in wet or even damp grass. It's a very cool looking effect and folks watching who don't know any better think the whip is actually exploding smoke! You can get this same effect with out getting your whip wet by dipping just the popper in a cup of water for a few seconds letting it soak. Then give it a crack and you'll get a single spray of mist. If your popper doesn't soak up enough water you can use the first couple inches of the fall. Just be sure to condition it before it dries out.

This method can be used to test out if your fall and popper are balanced correctly. A vertical throw should crack as the whip is completly laid out. However, a whip that has too light of a popper may crack before the whip is finished with it's loop. (Caused by the energy travelling faster than anticipated down the taper and ending up at the popper before the thong has completed it's ark.) Because the crack happens faster than you can see, the spray of mist will help determine where the crack is actually taking place. Then you can decide whether it's worth the effort to fine tune the popper and/or fall.

-Kyle

PS- Thanks, Dale.

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