Fuller's + Bullwhip?

[McFly]

Hey guys, do you think that Fuller's Earth would be damaging to, or have any negative effect on, a whip?

I was thinking of dusting it up, but I'm not sure it's a good idea, and figured I should consult you guys first, since you know best.

And, if I were to put it on, what do you think would be the best way to remove it?

In Christ,
Shane

[jerryrwm]

The question is why would you want to do that? If distressing is the goal take it out and use it. Best way to get them worked in with that well used look.

Jerry R

[winrichwhips]

Hi Shane,

I don't know exactly what type of scenes you're filming, but I assume that you want to dust up the whip for scenes where it would actually get dusty in the course of the action, and not just to make it dusty for dust's sake.

One thing about fine dust is that it will **** up the good moisture in the whip and dry it out. With larger particles, especially sand, can possibly get in side the whip or in between the braiding and sort of sand away the whip from the inside out. I'm kind of exagerating there, but either way dust and dirt isn't all that great for a whip.

It might help to give the whip a coat of Pecards before dusting it, as this should help keep the dust and dirt on the surface. If enough Pecards is used it should also me easier to clean the whip since the dust will be stuck in the Pecards.

Where do I read more about the film you're making? Have you posted about it in Lao Che's Table?

-Adam, www.winrichwhips.com

[McFly]

Yeah, I've got a thread going in Lao Che's table, but I haven't described this scene there, so I'll just talk about it here.

You are right Adam, in that I don't want to actually get real dirt on it, but still have it look that way.

In Christ,
Shane

The real thread for the film is here:
viewtopic.php?t=12839

[Mola Ram]

Yes,
it probably would affect the whip.
The best thing would be to go out and use it.
If you crack your whip 5 hours a day, after about 2 weeks
it should start to look really used. I dont think many people
would do that though. It took me a long time
to even get up to cracking 3 hours a day....
Bottom line, dont do this to the whip if you
dont need to. I think with a little bit more
use it should look fine.
Regards!
Adam

[winrichwhips]

Shane,

The sand and the Fuller's will probably be easier on the whip than cracking it 5 hours a day, 7 days a week. It'll be a lot easier on your shoulder and elbow, too.

I think your whip should make it through the scene just fine, though there might be a little wear since the sand will be abrasive. Go ahead and do what you want to do and just think about what the whips in the Indy movies went through--what you're going to do probably wont' be as severe.

Finally, I do agree with Molorom, don't do something to the whip if you don't need to.

-Adam, www.winrichwhips.com

[McFly]

Alright guys, thanks a lot... I'll take these things into consideration.

If I decide to use Fuller's on it, (and sand is inevitable), saddle soap would work fine getting it off right? Would a compressed air gun do it any good?

In Christ,
Shane

[JAN]

If it is for display only (and making a dusttrade in air) I would use flour.

No harm as it aint sharp as a mineral substance would be, and if not exposed to water the flour will snap right of.

Best regards

JAN

..and Bink... No, it wont go in the oven afterwards..

[winrichwhips]

To clean the whip, saddle soap mixed with a little water and a brush should work just fine.

-Adam

[McFly]

BUMP! For those of you thinking about maybe doing this to your whip, I think this is good information...

Shane