Cotton Raiders Jacket....

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:41 pm

Hey,

So I have been thinking about getting me a Cotton Raiders Jacket for a while now, but I was wondering a few things.

Does anyone know if you can get a "long" version? I'm not a big fan of jackets that end at the waist, with my body type and the way I wear my shirts (untucked) I look like a fat guy wearing a big colorfull innertube.

How much longer is the long version?

What is the best way to measure for a Wested? Are there any parts I should over compensate for (ahem) such as longer arms, or something of the sort?

Anything I should know before I actually do order one, such as hidden costs, jacket styles, and such?

Thanks!

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:58 pm

Unless Peter has changed things, the cotton Indy is pretty much off the rack sizing. The only changes I've noted have been the choice of collar materials. I've ordered and received 3 to date, and they've all been pretty much standard patterning from the leather Wested Raiders jacket. I highly recommend you contact Peter directly and toss this around, as to date he's stayed pretty firm in custom leather work, but standard sizing in cotton jacket orders. Regards! Michaelson

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:35 pm

Personally,
I would reccomend looking at other options also,
I have a cotton wested, and 3 months into wearing it the entire left cargo pocket got pulled off, after I got i caught on a door handle. It wasent even very hard. Just know you need to be careful with it. I guess it cant stand up to the rigors of highschool. If i were to get another light wheight jacket, i would probably go with a filson Cover cloth bomber jacket.
Adam

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:38 pm

Man, M, you're hard on your stuff.

Come to think of it, the only jacket I had survive HS was a Korean War B15 flight jacket my grandfather gave me, so it had to be mil spec to make the grade!

I've had mine since they came out, and have had absolutely NO problems to date, and I put mine through the paces too! No comparison to ANYTHING Filson makes, but then, they're not SUPPOSED to be! I mean, if that were the case, I'm a Carhart fan myself! My wife and daughter have the other two cotton Wested's in my family, and same story with theirs.
Guess it's just different experiences for different folks!
Regards! Michaelson

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:38 pm

I'm dumb...

It says you can get it in regular, or long....but how longs a long?

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:40 pm

Usually 2 inches longer than a regular. Regards. Michaelson

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:49 pm

Molorom wrote:Personally,
I would reccomend looking at other options also,
I have a cotton wested, and 3 months into wearing it the entire left cargo pocket got pulled of, after I got i caught on a door handle. It wasent even very hard. Just know you need to be careful with it. I guess it cant stand up to the rigors of highschool.
Adam

That ***** dude! Good thing I know how to sew!

What other options are you talking? Did you get a long or short version, and how long or short is it?

What I mean is...where do the d-rings sit, where does the bottom end?

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:55 pm

Michaelson is right,
I am really hard on my stuff.
I just needed something that would take all I would throw at it and I guess a wested cotton indy is not what i was looking for. What happned was, I stepped up to the wall, to move out of the way, and then stepped backward, and the side entry pocket was stuck on a door handle, thus, It just tore right off. Im not saying dont consider a wested, I have a leather and cotton jacket of theirs, and so far the pull strap on the leather one has only come off one time, so they make pretty good stuff

Regards,
Adam

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:55 pm

The options he was referring to were other manufacturers, CL.

As Moloram says, they're more of a dress jacket in terms of strength, and not something you'll roll down the hill in, but for the urban adventurer, they're top drawer.

I don't know what you're currently doing for sizing now, but think of how you already handle off the rack sized jackets. As an example, I can comfortably wear a size 42R, but the sleeves are ALWAYS 2 to 3 inches to short. I compensate by getting a size 44R to give me that added sleeve length, living with the extra body sizing that's been added by the upsizing. I've found it's exactly the same way with the cotton Wested. With the added 2 inches in length for a long, the bottom should be around the bottom of your back pants pocket, and the straps around your belt line.

Regards! Michaelson

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:59 pm

Michaelson wrote:The options he was referring to were other manufacturers, CL. Regards! Michaelson

Ya, but like who? Are there others offering this type?

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:02 pm

In an Indy jacket, only one, and that's U. S. Wings. Their's is heavier weight cotton, machine washable, but their collar comes as leather, and it's khaki color instead of the dark brown. Regards! Michaelson

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:03 pm

Heres what I was refering to from filson
http://www.filson.com/1493.HTM
and US wings also makes a cotton indy
http://www.uswings.com/aviatn.asp#SSCottonIJ
Adam

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:04 pm

OOoooo, I LIKE the looks of the Filson, Moloram!

Nice looking jacket there, my friend! Wish they had other colors to choose from, though. Thanks for the link!

Regards! Michaelson

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:04 pm

Seems we keep posting at the same time

Yea,
that one looks really nice. Its probably really tough,
and it still has that glimmer of indy look.
Kindest Regards!
Adam

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:05 pm

I noticed that! You, me, and Hemingway seem to do that a lot. (grins)

I've never heard of Filson ever making something that wasn't as tough as nails. This looks like a winner! Regards! Michaelson

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:09 pm

Molorom wrote:Heres what I was refering to from filson
http://www.filson.com/1493.HTM
and US wings also makes a cotton indy
http://www.uswings.com/aviatn.asp#SSCottonIJ
Adam

Sweet! I also like the Filson one too, but I hate the cuffs! They remind me of this old blue jacket I had in like 1983 or something.

The Us Wings one isn't all that bad, the color and collar are cheesy in my opinion. And the price is more than the Wested I think.

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:09 pm

You like that one? look at this one...
http://www.filson.com/193.HTM
Better colors there.
Kindest Regards!
Adam

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:10 pm

Bet the blue one you had was a London Fog. I still have a green one, and can't seem to wear it out!

The color's are right now, M, but now it's to heavy! They need to get their folks together for a meeting and discuss color offerings!

Regards! Michaelson

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:10 pm

Oops, I was also going to ask...

Is the Cotton Wested machine washable?

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:11 pm

The us wings jacket is 98$ right now.
I paid 140$ for my cotton at the middle of last year,
and they did not let me do any mods at all on it.
KR!
Adam

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:12 pm

WELLLLL, yes and no. It says dry clean only inside, but Peter has said that if you machine wash it, then hang it up to air dry (no tumble dry), it will be ok. I haven't tried it myself, though, so take that for face value. Regards! Michaelson

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:13 pm

Maybe the infamous Red Indy jacket was actually from filson

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:14 pm

I believe you've got it, Moloram!!!!

Regards! Michaelson

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:14 pm

I believe ghostassisn, or whatever his name was, cant get the correct spelling at this moment, washed his cotton exactly that way, and in the end there was a problem with the liner sagging into the zipper or something like that.

Wheres Swindy when you need him

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:16 pm

Somehow that doesn't surprise me. Personally, when I get mine cleaned, it's going to be dry clean all the way. Regards! Michaelson

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:18 pm

Molorom wrote:The us wings jacket is 98$ right now.
I paid 140$ for my cotton at the middle of last year,
and they did not let me do any mods at all on it.
KR!
Adam

It says on the Wested website that the cotton is, $85 + $25.

That ***** about not being able to do mods....not that I know what I would mod anyway. I never really was a fan of the leather jacket. I always liked the style, but never was a leather guy.

I like the cotton one because you can wear it and it kinda has that "skater/punk/retro" look to it and it's not so Indy. I could get away with wearing it with jeans, or some dickies and not look like a super nerd!

Does anyone have any pics of them wearing thier cotton wested? I have one finger on the credit card as we speak, but it would be cool to see a few before ordering.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:19 pm

Yeah, somewhere in the jacket section I know someone posted some really good ones, but at the moment I'm drawing a complete blank.

(Where's VP when you need him?!

) Regards! Michaelson

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:24 pm

viewtopic.php?t=8093

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:28 pm

WELL done!!!

High regards! Michaelson

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:28 pm

Wested Cotton

70.00 GBP
United Kingdom Pounds = 127.725 USD
United States Dollars

which=127.725 USD
United States Dollars = 159.003 CAD
Canada Dollars

US wings cotton

120.00 USD
United States Dollars = 149.400 CAD
Canada Dollars

Yea, i remember looking at that post before i got mine,
since there are very few pictures of it.
Thanks Michaelson!

kindest
Regards

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:32 pm

You should be on commission, Adam!!!!

(grins) Can't get better than that! High regards! Michaelson

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:34 pm

Thanks!

I feel like we are having a face to face conversation weve made so many posts

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:37 pm

Me too!

Regards! Michaelson

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:38 pm

Molorom wrote:viewtopic.php?t=8093

Sweet! Who is that guy? He has some awesome gear!

VP · Post by VP » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:48 am

Michaelson wrote:Yeah, somewhere in the jacket section I know someone posted some really good ones, but at the moment I'm drawing a complete blank. (Where's VP when you need him?! )

Mr VP was sleeping, you posted that at 12:19 AM. You guys can always use the search button and Mr Google when I'm away.

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:07 am

That ***** about not being able to do mods....not that I know what I would mod anyway. I never really was a fan of the leather jacket. I always liked the style, but never was a leather guy.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:14 am

VP wrote:
Michaelson wrote:Yeah, somewhere in the jacket section I know someone posted some really good ones, but at the moment I'm drawing a complete blank. (Where's VP when you need him?! )
Mr VP was sleeping, you posted that at 12:19 AM. You guys can always use the search button and Mr Google when I'm away.

VP SLEEPS!!!????

I can't believe it!!

High regards! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:21 am

Nah, I was just pulling your leg. I don't sleep at holidays.

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:21 am

rick5150 wrote:
That ***** about not being able to do mods....not that I know what I would mod anyway. I never really was a fan of the leather jacket. I always liked the style, but never was a leather guy.

'

Wha??

I was always all about the hat! I had a leather jacket once, granted it had about 12 colors on it, but regardless, I just don't look good in leather.

So I am thinking I am going to order a jacket today....any last recommendations/thoughts you guys have before I go through with it?

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:30 am

I think we've covered about everything there is to cover....lock and load! Regards! Michaelson

VP · Post by VP » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:32 am

Not again.

Post by **Michaelson** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:38 am

VP wrote:Not again.

Huh?

: Regards! Michaelson

Glurrk · Post by **Glurrk** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:36 pm

Don't forget this thread, either!

viewtopic.php?t=12024

rick5150 · Post by **rick5150** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:00 am

crazylegsmurphy wrote:
rick5150 wrote:
That ***** about not being able to do mods....not that I know what I would mod anyway. I never really was a fan of the leather jacket. I always liked the style, but never was a leather guy.

'

Wha??

I was always all about the hat! I had a leather jacket once, granted it had about 12 colors on it, but regardless, I just don't look good in leather.

So I am thinking I am going to order a jacket today....any last recommendations/thoughts you guys have before I go through with it?

Hahaha. This surprise Emoticon was specifically for the "I was never a fan of the leather jacket" comment. The look, the fit, the drape, the SMELL of a Wested Leather Indy Jacket. Heck, even if you do not wear it, just hang it up, stare at it for a couple of hours each day and be thrilled that you have a jacket custom made for you by the man who made the original jackets for the movies. Did I mention the smell of the leather

You are right to be "about the hat" but the jacket is certainly next in making the Indy look. Not being a fan of the jacket is almost sacreligious. By the way color can make or break the look of a leather jacket. Since you had a multi-colored jacket, that could be the reason you never liked the way it looked on you. I had purchased two jackets before at a leather factory outlet closeout sale. Exactly the same except for color. One looked pretty cool and the other looked absolutely hideous on me. For some reason, I think I still have it too. It was burgundy (Hey, it was the 70's) with a snap off fur collar and removable liner.

What size are you? I will send you one of my Wested jackets to try on and see what you think before ordering. Everybody HAS to love the Indy jacket. It is like a rule or something

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 2:31 pm

hhehehe...

Awww thats sweet! I really like the look of the leather jacket, (that's why I want a cotton one) but I'm just not a leather guy.

A lot of it has to do with my "style." You see, I dress pretty young (for my old age) and so for me a leather jacket would be a waste. To have one to stare at would be a big waste of $500!!

I even thought....well maybe for camping/hiking...but then I have my MEC gear that I use and it's much lighter than a leather jacket would be, and when you are concerned about weight...

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:33 pm

Everybody HAS to love the Indy jacket. It is like a rule or something.

LMAO!

In the immortal words of Homer (Simpson), 'It's funny cos its true'!

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:40 pm

crazylegsmurphy wrote:A lot of it has to do with my "style." You see, I dress pretty young (for my old age) and so for me a leather jacket would be a waste. To have one to stare at would be a big waste of $500!!

Are you trying to say that you wear your pants five sizes too big, with your boxer shorts completely exposed?

Zach R. · Post by **Zach R.** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:42 pm

Maybe he could get a jacket 3 sizes too big to go with his "young" style then.

crazylegsmurphy · Post by **crazylegsmurphy** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:07 pm

Bufflehead Jones wrote:
crazylegsmurphy wrote:A lot of it has to do with my "style." You see, I dress pretty young (for my old age) and so for me a leather jacket would be a waste. To have one to stare at would be a big waste of $500!!
Are you trying to say that you wear your pants five sizes too big, with your boxer shorts completely exposed?

No, I don't, but I don't wear a suit and tie to work, or wear turtle necks. Dressing young means I dress casual. I have jeans, t-shirts, and the like....

Please don't assume I am just some punk kid. Let me ask you why you don't wear Shirts with...umm I dunno Punk bands on them? Simply because it doesn't fit your age of style.

Zach R. · Post by **Zach R.** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:08 pm

Well, I was just messing with you.

Besides, I think you're a good deal older than me anyway, so I'd really have no right to call you a punk kid.