Simple question about GUN BELTS
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Simple question about GUN BELTS
How do you wear a gun belt? Do you put it through the loops?
How did Indy wear his?
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How did Indy wear his?
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Well I'm not sure, I guess theoretically, it could just slide off but I think The key thing is to keep the belt tight enough so that won't happen but not so tight that it looks weird. One thing that helps is having a weighted pistol(real or fake) in your holster. This will kind of keep some tension on the belt. You'll notice the belt has a tendancy to hang more to the right rather than being straight across.
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Way back when...when you would wear a gunbelt, it's was usually loose, as in the photo above. Now days you wear "keepers" to keep it tight along your belt line. For myself, I like the looseness of the Indy look. It's much easier on your back. You wear a gunbelt tight around your waist for a day and by the end of the day your back is very tight. Since I doubt anyone will be doing any fast draws with their Indy gear, the loose look is fine.
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Hey Rabittooth, they don't slip off. What they do, when they are loose like Indys, is that they move around. When you reach for your gun, you want the holster to always be in the same position and to be fairly anchored there. When they are loose like that, the holster has a tendancy to not be in the same place each time. Also, when you are pulling your gun out, it will sometimes hangup (however slightly) on the holster and since the holster isn't anchored on your hip, the holster will rise up and your free hand will usually come across and hold it down. Am I making that clear?
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What prevents it from sliping off?Rabittooth wrote:I still don't understand how some think that the gunbelt will slip off. Has this actually happened to anyone??!!
The way you guys talk about it, it seems like you just put the belt around your waist with some slack to the right side. It this is the case, a little bit of pressure on the right side you cause the belt to slip, also if you are running or spinning and things like that, the belt would probably be around your ankles.
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I never said there should be any slack on the right side. There was almost no slack in Raiders.Gregoire Defense wrote:What prevents it from sliping off?
The way you guys talk about it, it seems like you just put the belt around your waist with some slack to the right side. It this is the case, a little bit of pressure on the right side you cause the belt to slip, also if you are running or spinning and things like that, the belt would probably be around your ankles.
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Why don't Policemen's gunbelts slip off?
Why don't Western-type six shooter gunbelts slip off?
Why don't Military equiptment belts slipoff?
None of those belts are attached to the pants as far as I know.
I think they don't slipoff because you make them tight enough that they won't. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Rabittooth:
Police officers gunbelts are attached to pants belt. They are secured by "keepers". Keepers go around the gunbelt and the pants belt and hold the gunbelt tight against the waist.
Ever see an old western where the gun belt is pretty loose? Look and see where the holster is tied down to the gunfighters leg. That keeps the holster tight against his leg so it won't flop around and is always in the same place when the gunfighter reaches and pulls the gun out.
If your wearing your Indy gear and have your gun in it's holster and are running around, that holster is going to flap around all over the place. Plus when you sit down and just do the various things you do, the holster will be in front of you one minute, behind you the next and so on.
Police officers gunbelts are attached to pants belt. They are secured by "keepers". Keepers go around the gunbelt and the pants belt and hold the gunbelt tight against the waist.
Ever see an old western where the gun belt is pretty loose? Look and see where the holster is tied down to the gunfighters leg. That keeps the holster tight against his leg so it won't flop around and is always in the same place when the gunfighter reaches and pulls the gun out.
If your wearing your Indy gear and have your gun in it's holster and are running around, that holster is going to flap around all over the place. Plus when you sit down and just do the various things you do, the holster will be in front of you one minute, behind you the next and so on.
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Don't be so sure... as you can read in the Thread under the Fedora Forum: "The Real Reason We Must Bomb Iraq!!!"... some of us are banning together and forming our oun "Raider Militia".Since I doubt anyone will be doing any fast draws with their Indy gear, the loose look is fine.
In all honesty, I would like to know how practical wearing a gunbelt would be. I plan on wearing my gunbelt and holster in such a fashion when A)I get the right holster. B)When I get a gun that fits the holster.
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Cool...one good reason why a cop's belt won't slip down around his knees.Imahomer wrote:Rabittooth:
Police officers gunbelts are attached to pants belt. They are secured by "keepers". Keepers go around the gunbelt and the pants belt and hold the gunbelt tight against the waist.
Right...ok...I never said the holster wouldn't flap around. But that's not what's in question here.Imahomer wrote: Ever see an old western where the gun belt is pretty loose? Look and see where the holster is tied down to the gunfighters leg. That keeps the holster tight against his leg so it won't flop around and is always in the same place when the gunfighter reaches and pulls the gun out.
If your wearing your Indy gear and have your gun in it's holster and are running around, that holster is going to flap around all over the place. Plus when you sit down and just do the various things you do, the holster will be in front of you one minute, behind you the next and so on.
What I want to know is...does anyone here honestly believe that when a grown intelligent man puts on a gunbelt tight enough to seem reasonable to him...without attaching it to the pants...that with (even very vigorous activity)...it will fall around his knees?
Does anybody think they need to attach the gunbelt to the pants or anywhere else to keep it from falling down??!!!
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It's interesting when you compare the thought of doing something to actually doing it. When I sit here and think about it, a man tends to get progressivly smaller in form the farther down the body you go and that makes you wonder, what does hold the belt up? Yet, at the same time I have run around with gun belts on ever since I was a little kid(lol) and I have never had one fall off. Fascinating :!:
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"What I want to know is...does anyone here honestly believe that when a grown intelligent man puts on a gunbelt tight enough to seem reasonable to him...without attaching it to the pants...that with (even very vigorous activity)...it will fall around his knees?"
Simple and direct question and like I said before, the answer is no. I can't believe anyone would really think that it would.
Simple and direct question and like I said before, the answer is no. I can't believe anyone would really think that it would.
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Why not? I am really interested in the reasoning for this! I am not trying to give you a hard time. I am honestly interested in knowing why a gun belt would not slip of your waist when doing vigorous activity!Imahomer wrote:I can't believe anyone would really think that it would.
If you think about it, in all acounts, the gun belt could possibly slip and fall to your ankles and trip you up or do other things. I mean, most men, do not have very broad hips.
But this does not happen. Does anybody have a logical explaination for this?
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I have to go along with rabittooth. It's pretty basic stuff. Perhaps more for me because I've worn a gunbelt for 20+ years. Unless you are a little kid wearing your fathers gunbelt, or your the village idiot and don't know how to put on a belt... it's not going to fall down.
Look at it like this. If you've got the gunbelt on so loose that it's going to fall down around your ankles, it will do that before you have a chance to walk out the door. It won't wait for you to do some big time running around.
Look at it like this. If you've got the gunbelt on so loose that it's going to fall down around your ankles, it will do that before you have a chance to walk out the door. It won't wait for you to do some big time running around.
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"If you think about it, in all acounts, the gun belt could possibly slip and fall to your ankles and trip you up or do other things."
What accounts? I can't believe I'm even responding to this post! Does it really make that much difference why it doesn't slip down? Just know that it doesn't and we can all talk about something else.
What accounts? I can't believe I'm even responding to this post! Does it really make that much difference why it doesn't slip down? Just know that it doesn't and we can all talk about something else.
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I'm curious, aight? Please. If you don't got something good to respond with then just don't post.
Just because you are more experinced with gun belts then I am, doesn't mean anything. Can I ask questions? Can I live?
Okay.
I was just saying that (I thought) a gunbelt could slip of your waist as easily as a regular belt could slip of your waist. (If it was not in the loops)
But, I will just find out for myself when I get my own gunbelt.
Just because you are more experinced with gun belts then I am, doesn't mean anything. Can I ask questions? Can I live?
Okay.
I was just saying that (I thought) a gunbelt could slip of your waist as easily as a regular belt could slip of your waist. (If it was not in the loops)
But, I will just find out for myself when I get my own gunbelt.
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Thanks soooo much Imahomer...I thought I had fallen into a bizarro world or something with this thread. Seriously...Thank God you chimed in. I thought I was going to have to argue the effectiveness of a BELT. This is not high tech stuff...sheesh...what a goofy thread. I can't believe I got this involved in it.Imahomer wrote:I have to go along with rabittooth. It's pretty basic stuff. Perhaps more for me because I've worn a gunbelt for 20+ years. Unless you are a little kid wearing your fathers gunbelt, or your the village idiot and don't know how to put on a belt... it's not going to fall down.
Look at it like this. If you've got the gunbelt on so loose that it's going to fall down around your ankles, it will do that before you have a chance to walk out the door. It won't wait for you to do some big time running around.
But I mean...it's a BELT!!! It's used to hold up your pants...not the other way around!!!!!!
*sigh*
I fear for the future sometimes.
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Guys, you're missing what Greg is trying to say. We all already know that the gunbelt does not slide off, in fact we no longer care. Now we are wondering Why the belt stays on. On a simple level the answer is "it just does" but when you go up a step and think a little higher you begin to wonder Why it stays on. Logically it should just fall down but alas! it doesn't. Why :
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Because...a...belt...is...designed...to...hold...your....pants...up....IndyJones wrote:...we are wondering Why the belt stays on. On a simple level the answer is "it just does" but when you go up a step and think a little higher you begin to wonder Why it stays on. Logically it should just fall down but alas! it doesn't. Why :
Your pants....are...not...designed...to...hold...your...belt...up.
The whole purpose of a belt is to hold your pants up...that's why it's there. A belt is a thing that you use to keep your pants from falling down.
Your pants are not things you use to keep a belt from falling down.
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Thanks IndyJones.
Rabbittooth,
What the heck are you talking about? It is amazing how obnoxious you are. Do you have any idea what the topic of this thread is? Why are you making yourself look stupid by doing this to yourself? You aready proved that you are smarter than the average person here because to you it is "common sence" and "obvious" why a gun belt stays up.
Don't do it.
Don't do this to yourself bruh.
Anyway, forget it, I will find out myself. BTW, Do you know Chicago? Do you really know the University of Chicago? How you luv that?
Quit it man.
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Rabbittooth,
What the heck are you talking about? It is amazing how obnoxious you are. Do you have any idea what the topic of this thread is? Why are you making yourself look stupid by doing this to yourself? You aready proved that you are smarter than the average person here because to you it is "common sence" and "obvious" why a gun belt stays up.
Don't do it.
Don't do this to yourself bruh.
Anyway, forget it, I will find out myself. BTW, Do you know Chicago? Do you really know the University of Chicago? How you luv that?
Quit it man.
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Amazing. Thank you for explaining how a belt works. I was wondering why my pants kept falling down. Now that the age old riddle of using a belt is solved, maybe we can move onto the actual question: Why does a belt, not supported by anything(i.e BELTLOOPS), with weight on it not slide down? Perhaps they are unfamiliar with the concept of Gravity
Maybe this isn't getting through. It's called thinking outside the box. We already knowfor a fact(!) that belts do not fall down. We are wondering what the reason is. Obviously, there must be some tension somewhere because the gunbelt is loose enough to slide over the trouse belt. So, how about if, like, you don't know the answer, you don't give one! Booyeah.[/i]
Maybe this isn't getting through. It's called thinking outside the box. We already knowfor a fact(!) that belts do not fall down. We are wondering what the reason is. Obviously, there must be some tension somewhere because the gunbelt is loose enough to slide over the trouse belt. So, how about if, like, you don't know the answer, you don't give one! Booyeah.[/i]
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Yes guys..I deeply apologize. You're absolutely right. I don't know what was wrong with me. Without beltloops, belts fall down. Pants have beltloops so that your belts don't fall down. Belts are not for the purpose of holding your pants up via tightening them around your waist.IndyJones wrote:Amazing. Thank you for explaining how a belt works. I was wondering why my pants kept falling down. Now that the age old riddle of using a belt is solved, maybe we can move onto the actual question: Why does a belt, not supported by anything(i.e BELTLOOPS), with weight on it not slide down? Perhaps they are unfamiliar with the concept of Gravity.
I dunno...maybe it's "the Force" that keeps them up?
"Belt Angels!!!!" No wait...gremlins!
I'm very sorry to have troubled you with my stupidity.
I surrender to your wisdom M'man.
I can't keep up with you guys. I can't be involved in this debate...
Why don't belts fall down? Hmmmmmm.
Must be that they are held up by the loops in the pants that the belt is designed to hold up by tightening it. But wait.....
I dunno guys...I'm gonna go with...."it's a miracle".
Very valid question though...not dumb at all...
Somebody reanimate Einstein...we got a question for him.
Brilliant guys....keep up the good work.
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You seem to have a little trouble grasping the concept of Why. When you start thinking you'll find that you ask why a lot. Not because you need to know but because you want to know. I could just go back and copy and paste but I'll go to the trouble of typing it. Why does a loose belt with weight on it not fall down? Before you get fired up and start typing, we already know that it doesn't. Again, we don't care. The question is Why? It could be an interesting discussion if you could control yourself enough to think about it before you answer.
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Dude...seriously...it's because it's not loose...at least not loose enough to fall off. Y'see : on a belt...there's these little holes on one end. There's a buckle on the other. You advance the buckle far enough along the holes until the belt is tight enough not to fall down. If there's more weight on the belt...make it a bit more snug.IndyJones wrote:Why does a loose belt with weight on it not fall down? Before you get fired up and start typing, we already know that it doesn't. Again, we don't care. The question is Why? It could be an interesting discussion if you could control yourself enough to think about it before you answer.
This goes for ANY belt. Gunbelt...pants belt. With loops in the pants...without loops in the pants. Heck...you don't even have to be wearing pants.
In fact...alot of folks wear belts to tighten their pants against the waist using this system.
I think that's why they don't fall down...because MOST of the folks who use them aren't hopelessly retarded and can tighten them so that they don't.
Belts...those amazing gravity combatants, huh?
This is a great thread. I honestly haven't had this much fun here in a while.
You guys are the best.
Seriously...if yer ever in NYC..gimme a buzz...I'll but you a drink "Bruh".
What do you want to talk about next?
Shoelaces?
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LoL I don't know or care if you were serious about not having this much fun on here in a while but I have to agree, LoL. This is a funny post. All we are doing is beating around the bush. We all three know how a belt works. Greg and I are exagerating the looseness of it while you are pretending not to consider that it could be loose enough to fall off. LoL This was fun.
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I'm ###### serious Dakota...this is great.IndyJones wrote:LoL I don't know or care if you were serious about not having this much fun on here in a while but I have to agree, LoL. This is a funny post. All we are doing is beating around the bush. We all three know how a belt works. Greg and I are exagerating the looseness of it while you are pretending not to consider that it could be loose enough to fall off. LoL This was fun.
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Dakota...You on there man? If not...Send me a pic of you in gear and I'll throw it on. The more the merrier.IndyJones wrote:By the way dude, that is one awesome collage you have on your website. Booyeah!
Hey Greg...you should check out the collage. There's all these pics of belts staying put...it'll be educational for ya. Y'know...Like scientific evidence before you get your gunbelt and see how it works.
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Geezus, where are the moderators, this is getting ALMOST as bad as op/ing an IRC Channel on DALnet or EFnet. If you like agruing, thats the place to be, of course don't show up on any channels I'm associated with if you don't want to be "kicked." :evil:
Thought better of you guys!
Oh, btw, I'm ALMOST serious.
Thought better of you guys!
Oh, btw, I'm ALMOST serious.
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Sorry Rixter...Perhaps I did get carried away. I'm just concerned for the planet when people who are apparently attending University question how a belt stays on. But, to be fair... the guy offered to do some cleaning for me, so I guess he's alright after all.Rixter wrote:Geezus, where are the moderators, this is getting ALMOST as bad as op/ing an IRC Channel on DALnet or EFnet. If you like agruing, thats the place to be, of course don't show up on any channels I'm associated with if you don't want to be "kicked." :evil:
Thought better of you guys!
Oh, btw, I'm ALMOST serious.
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