So, why was he wearing a tie?

Andiana · Post by **Andiana** » Fri May 27, 2005 3:47 am

I see that alot of people go for the 'LC' look and have the type of black neck tie that Indy was wearing throughout the first half of LC.

My question is why was Indy wearing a tie? Was he trying to look good for good ol' dad? The tie doesn't bother me at all (he looks cool in it) but I just wnated to hear you guys opnions and outputs.
- Also, what kind of tie is it (company? name?)

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Fri May 27, 2005 5:00 am

Well, if you look closely at the bottom of his tie, you can see the exhaust vents for stunning gas and the spikes that turns it into a chainsaw...

Sorry, wrong genre.

The tie is black Irish poplin, a fabric with silk warp and worsted weft according to 'top sources'.
Noel Howard/MBA costumes offered it when they were in business and I'm pretty sure Sergei has one of them in his collection, and probably a few others more do too. Whether MBA made the original themselves or got one of the shelf, I'm not sure. What I do know though that it is quite a process to get a tie to look the way it does.

Why he wore it? I don't know... He first wears it when going to Venice and meets Elsa, and then again when rescuing Henry Sr. Maybe he thought it would be easier to get into the castle if looking more "official"?
Or: When going on adventure, why not look good doing it? (As we all try to...)

My guess is that the costumre department wanted a new look for Indy without altering the costume too much.

Regards,
Swindiana

JAN · Post by **JAN** » Fri May 27, 2005 5:05 am

I think it quite clearly.

He was amoung "civilized" people. Not in some far jungle or
dessert.
Following the dress-code of his time, he was dressed as he was
supposed to. Still wearing his "adventure-dress" adding a tie
makes it actually quite desent.

There is no way You would find Henry Jones Jr. stombling around
in the civilized world dressed like "Indiana Jones" - You just didn´t
do that at that time.

Best regards

JAN

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri May 27, 2005 9:57 am

There were (and still are) many places that do not allow entry without the wearing of a tie, so I believe he decided not to take a chance in his visit to the castle, and to wear a tie. Regards! Michaelson

Indiana Jess · Post by **Indiana Jess** » Fri May 27, 2005 11:44 am

Elsa probably made him wear it. "Oh, you'd look so good with a tie." "Fine, I'll wear the tie."

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Fri May 27, 2005 4:04 pm

Indiana Jess wrote:Elsa probably made him wear it. "Oh, you'd look so good with a tie." "Fine, I'll wear the tie."

Heck, why not? If Elsa wanted me to wear a tie then I would wear a tie!

Mulceber · Post by **Mulceber** » Fri May 27, 2005 4:08 pm

Yeah, he was in the civilized world (even if the Nazi's weren't what I would call civilized), also, remember his excuse for getting into the castle "we're here to view the tapestries". Even if he did make that up in the car, he must have known way back in Venice that there was no way he was getting in without a tie. :junior: -IJ

colorado jeff · Post by **colorado jeff** » Fri May 27, 2005 7:42 pm

Ties were frequently worn by "gentlemen". If you look at an old Harley Davidson catalog, a black (leather) tie was standard wear on a motorcycle. (really)

Theory #2 is that they were traveling by car. Remember before they switched clothes at the castle, she was quite smartly dressed for travel.

Renderking Fisk · Post by **Renderking Fisk** » Fri May 27, 2005 7:51 pm

Back then, you had to wear a had, I tie, and a pair of trousers.

To some extent, things were better.

Baggers · Post by **Baggers** » Fri May 27, 2005 8:08 pm

JAN wrote:I think it quite clearly.

He was amoung "civilized" people. Not in some far jungle or
dessert.
Following the dress-code of his time, he was dressed as he was
supposed to. Still wearing his "adventure-dress" adding a tie
makes it actually quite desent.

There is no way You would find Henry Jones Jr. stombling around
in the civilized world dressed like "Indiana Jones" - You just didn´t
do that at that time.

Best regards

JAN

I agree. Neckties were simply a required accessory for gentlemen in the 1930s. The only time one went without was when peforming hard physical labor.

Even during world War 2, British officers were required to wear one even when wearing battledress in combat. The other ranks (enlisted men) and NCOs weren't allowed to wear shirts with attached collars and neckties when "walking out" until early 1945. Prior to that, they wore collarless wool shirts underneath their BD blouses which had to be buttoned all the way up. It was seen as a mark of civilized status to be allowed to wear open BD collars with a shirt and tie showing.

Cheers!

Curator Rick · Post by **Curator Rick** » Sun May 29, 2005 12:53 pm

Ties were standard wear for men in many classes. Looking through old photos of Curtiss-Wright Co. in the early 30s you can see factory and assembly line workers with ties, many times tucked in about level with the top of the shirt pocket to keep it out of the machinery. I even have a photo taken of my Grandfather in 1939 driving a tractor wearing one with his overalls.
CR

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Sun May 29, 2005 3:52 pm

Indiana Jess wrote:Elsa probably made him wear it. "Oh, you'd look so good with a tie." "Fine, I'll wear the tie."

"Elsa, should I wear the black one or the red polka-dot one?"
"Black! For the love of God, the black one!"
"But dad likes red."
"INDIANA JONES!"
"FINE! I'll wear the black one." (Slips red polka-dot tie into his right jacket pocket), [to himself] "Just in case..."

Can you imagine what Indy-Gear would be like if he had worn some wierd pattern on his tie

?

Indy N.

BTW: In the deleted sceens of LC, Elsa discovers the red polka-dot tie in his pocket and they argue the whole way to the castle and Indy is forced to change his tie.
[Yes, I have waaayyy too much time on my hands

]

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:52 pm

Hello....

HELLO!....

Is this thing on?!

Tough room, lol

.

Indy N.

Neolithic · Post by **Neolithic** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:17 am

That's a really good question, Andy. Who knows really...
I've always thought that it was because most of the action of LC takes place in more 'civilized' areas of the world as well. I guess it also suited his look as he'd increased his age and his mileage. He looked a bit older without the tie in LC.
I'm guessing that in Indy IV (if he's in our beloved 30's Indy outfit) that he'll wear a tie again.

Shawnkara · Post by **Shawnkara** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:41 pm

I don't know. To me Indy seems like the kind of a guy that only wore a tie because fashion dictated it. Like a little kid going to church. But I think he was too much of a maverick to wear one out of choice. Why did he have one in LC? He changed from his suit to his "work clothes" in the car. I think he was just so accustomed to wearing one he forgot to take it off. He took it off later because he'd seen some action by then, was hot and sweaty and suddenly realized, "Oh, yeah. I'm still being strangled by this ###'n stupid thing."

Indiana Wayne · Post by **Indiana Wayne** » Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:53 pm

Indiana Neri wrote:
Indiana Jess wrote:Elsa probably made him wear it. "Oh, you'd look so good with a tie." "Fine, I'll wear the tie."
"Elsa, should I wear the black one or the red polka-dot one?"
"Black! For the love of God, the black one!"
"But dad likes red."
"INDIANA JONES!"
"FINE! I'll wear the black one." (Slips red polka-dot tie into his right jacket pocket), [to himself] "Just in case..."

Can you imagine what Indy-Gear would be like if he had worn some wierd pattern on his tie ?

Indy N.

BTW: In the deleted sceens of LC, Elsa discovers the red polka-dot tie in his pocket and they argue the whole way to the castle and Indy is forced to change his tie.
[Yes, I have waaayyy too much time on my hands ]

That's funny! I am wearing my tie right now. I hope he wears it again in Indy 4.

Mojave Jack · Post by **Mojave Jack** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:51 pm

Baggers wrote:Even during world War 2, British officers were required to wear one even when wearing battledress in combat. The other ranks (enlisted men) and NCOs weren't allowed to wear shirts with attached collars and neckties when "walking out" until early 1945. Prior to that, they wore collarless wool shirts underneath their BD blouses which had to be buttoned all the way up. It was seen as a mark of civilized status to be allowed to wear open BD collars with a shirt and tie showing.

Cheers!

George S. Patton was also famous for requiring his men to dress appropriately for battle, to include a tie.

Appearing in public without a tie was like appearing without pants! Even pictures of people in breadlines during the depression show the men wearing ties!