Authentic Whip at Christies Auction with Ford Note
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Authentic Whip at Christies Auction with Ford Note
Does anyone know anything about the whip coming up at auction at Christies in NY?
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/Sear ... ID=4518588
They say it is from "Temple of Doom"
Stuart
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/Sear ... ID=4518588
They say it is from "Temple of Doom"
Stuart
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This is near me and I will be going there to view it and take a couple of photos.Michaelson wrote:I really wish they'd get someone at these auction houses to do more homework on their items....they've matched a Raiders 8x10 photo with a TofD whip that has supposed provinance TO that movie. They still just run all 3 movies together in their auctions. Regards! Michaelson
Michaelson, I agree and will speak to their promotions department. Seriously!
While the whip shows very little use, its providence is without question. How many whips come with a note from Harry Ford himself attesting to its pedigree? From a source like Christies (not Pagey).....
Look at the length of the handle, its right on and a 10 footer to boot!!!!!!
What do you think of it Sergei?
I'll tell you if I was not writing college tuition checks right now I would be all over it from $8,000 to $12,000 and maybe even a little more.
I would prefer a Raiders or LC whip however, wiping away bugs is not the proper use of a whip. IMO spiders and rats are better.
Thanks for the intel Stuwil, it will be interesting to see what it goes for.
Bill Walton
Look at the length of the handle, its right on and a 10 footer to boot!!!!!!
What do you think of it Sergei?
I'll tell you if I was not writing college tuition checks right now I would be all over it from $8,000 to $12,000 and maybe even a little more.
I would prefer a Raiders or LC whip however, wiping away bugs is not the proper use of a whip. IMO spiders and rats are better.
Thanks for the intel Stuwil, it will be interesting to see what it goes for.
Bill Walton
Now I can't get this baby off my mind.......
If I knew I could get it for <$10k I would sell somthing and buy it. Or I could ask my wife for the money............. No I think I would sell somthing.
I can here my wife now............. "$10,000 for a whip????????? Are you crazy?" Kind of like Elsa in the Venice speed boats "Go between them????? Are you crazy?????????"
It is not a pleasant thought.
Bill
If I knew I could get it for <$10k I would sell somthing and buy it. Or I could ask my wife for the money............. No I think I would sell somthing.
I can here my wife now............. "$10,000 for a whip????????? Are you crazy?" Kind of like Elsa in the Venice speed boats "Go between them????? Are you crazy?????????"
It is not a pleasant thought.
Bill
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I really don't know if you could ever prove it was from ToD, even with Ford's letter. That letter is dated Jan. 28 of this year. Could he really remeber one particular whip AND exactly which movie it was used in? I don't doubt it's screen used, I'm sure Christie's extensively researches these things. But as Michaelson pointed out they don't seem to make too much distinction between the three films. It probably came from the archives and presented to Ford by a reputable person. He may have been told it was from ToD and had no reason to doubt that's when he used it. I know the color of the whips in ToD varied a lot more than in the other two films but it seems to have much more of the Raiders coloration. Most of the ToD whips were much darker.
With anything this one of a kind I would only buy it for my own enjoyment, with no intent in treating it as an investment. The demand for items such as this is very unpredictable. It will be interesting to see what the whip sells for at Christies. I have seen lots sell for several times the high estimate and similar items at other times sell for far less. It depends on what bidders are there and their hunger for the item.
If I were inclined I would feel confident bidding on an Indiana Jones whip sold at Christies, with a note from Harrison Ford. Whips don’t have serial numbers and IMO one can second guess its use until the cows come home, a whips providence doesn’t get any more clear than that. Again IMO anyone who doubts this whip would have doubts with ALL such items. My Morgan 10 is a great deal darker than that whip too and for that matter so is Pagey’s. That doesn’t mean they were from TOD.
Thanks, and have a great Memorial Day.
Bill Walton
If I were inclined I would feel confident bidding on an Indiana Jones whip sold at Christies, with a note from Harrison Ford. Whips don’t have serial numbers and IMO one can second guess its use until the cows come home, a whips providence doesn’t get any more clear than that. Again IMO anyone who doubts this whip would have doubts with ALL such items. My Morgan 10 is a great deal darker than that whip too and for that matter so is Pagey’s. That doesn’t mean they were from TOD.
Thanks, and have a great Memorial Day.
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How many letters could be faked? Or How many people could switch out the whip with a more receent one? I'm not saying anyone did that, just realizing it could happen because there are dishonest people out there. Although Christie's does has a good reputation, I'm curious on how far they go to verify the authenticity of the goods.Whipcrack wrote:While the whip shows very little use, its providence is without question. How many whips come with a note from Harry Ford himself attesting to its pedigree? From a source like Christies (not Pagey).....
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Lot# 234, the TOD whip was estimated at $8-12k.
The lot sold for $66,000.00!
There was a clay grail cup at auction too. That lot was withdrawn.
The lot sold for $66,000.00!
There was a clay grail cup at auction too. That lot was withdrawn.
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To me it looks like at least two people there thought a great deal more of that whip than some of the people here. IMO it would take some heavy bidding to get to $66,000 as the estimate for it was $8,000 to 12,000.Feraud wrote:Lot# 234, the TOD whip was estimated at $8-12k.
The lot sold for $66,000.00!
There was a clay grail cup at auction too. That lot was withdrawn.
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Did anyone notice this comment about that whip, on the Christie's site?
This lot was originally sold in a charity auction Icons And Legends on behalf of Friends In Deed. The sale was held at Christie's on 10th September, 2001 and owing to the turn of events the following day in New York City, the lot was never collected by the purchaser.
Chilling. The Ghost Whip.
This lot was originally sold in a charity auction Icons And Legends on behalf of Friends In Deed. The sale was held at Christie's on 10th September, 2001 and owing to the turn of events the following day in New York City, the lot was never collected by the purchaser.
Chilling. The Ghost Whip.
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If you read this report on my blog - Guernsey’s Auction: “The Pugliese Collection” - it looks like the whip discussed here in this topic might be the same one offered in this upcoming auction. I found on more details about the whip on the Pugliese Company website.
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