That's Not A Knife.....

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:36 pm

Does anybody remember the Khyber Bowie Knife United Cultery once sold, the one you can find on Ebay almost all of the time? Well I have had one for a few years now (the one that came with the sheath) and I plan on getting the 2nd Edition one (the one with the plaque) at some point. I have been trying to figure out what would be the best way to carry it while "adventuring". It is too heavy to hang on a belt, and with out some sort of strap on the tip of the sheath to go around the leg, it would just sway back and forth while hicking/walking. I have been trying to find a decent (cheap) shoulder sheath for it so it could go around my shoulder and behind the back, kinda like how "he" had it in the "Infernal Machine". Anybody have any thoughts or suggestions? Could a shoulder sheath be incorperated with the strap from the MK VII? Thanks in advance.....

Indy N.

Jupiter Jones · Post by **Jupiter Jones** » Fri May 06, 2005 8:07 pm

Where in the world do you adventure that you'd need a knife like that??

I take it that you're not planning a Club Med vacation...

(I'm guessing you already know this, but carrying a knife like that is illegal in most of the US.)

Here's a pic for the curious:

http://www.kitrae.net/other_7.jpg

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Fri May 06, 2005 8:13 pm

Jupiter Jones wrote:(I'm guessing you already know this, but carrying a knife like that is illegal in most of the US.)

What is the blade length?

Jupiter Jones · Post by **Jupiter Jones** » Fri May 06, 2005 8:15 pm

Looks like 15" at least... I think that bad boy qualifies as a sword...

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Fri May 06, 2005 11:57 pm

Taken from the actual box:

"INDIANA JONES KHYBER BOWIE FEATURES AND SPECIFICATIONS:
Overall length: 24"
Handle Length: 18" Stainless Steel
Solid Brass Guard and Pommel
Hardwood Handle
American-Made, Top Grain Genuine Leather Sheath"

The answer to your questions regarding where I would take it comes from many a time my friends and I went camping up in New Hampshire and on some of the trails, we could have used a machette. I remember one year where I went with my friend and his family (there were about 20+ of us) to one of the camp sites up there and there was talk of a bear sighting. So, naturally, some of the girls that were with us were afraid to walk to the "bathrooms" in the dark, that and they were afraid of getting jumped. So one of the guys simply said "Take Ken with you, if anyone tries to jump you, Ken could whip out his knife. Then you can watch how fast they'd run." Now, I know fending off a bear with a short sword ain't the wisest idea. In truth, I'd probablly soil myself and run

. I don't even think I'd attempt it with a bullwhip, much less a sword. BTW, whenever we go camping/hiking/whatever, I'm usually in Indy-mode. Well, needless to say, the girls felt safer with me rather than going alone (what can I say?

).

Anyways, I'd probablly would want the shoulder rig for a bit of cosmetics. I don't think I'd bring it often, I just like to see people's faces (friends of course) when out of no-where, I pull out this huge knife. So any thoughts on where I could get a rig for this baby? I'm not looking to spend big $$$$, just something that would do the job. Maybe I could find something leather to match the rest of the ensamble, like something might have carried himself?

Indy N.

PS: I want to let you in on a little secret: The blade isn't even sharpened, but they didn't need to know that, lol.

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Sat May 07, 2005 2:11 am

After staring blankly at my MK VII and Khyber Bowie, wondering if there was some way to produce a makeshift sheath with what I have, I went ahead and did it

. It's crude but it works, what I did was take the sheath and placed it on top of my MK strap and took two pieces of cardoard and sandwhiched the MK strap b/w the board and the sheath, added some masking tape (for now....it's just to give me an rough idea), and now I'm wearing it. However it does have it's drawbacks (I'm afraid more than advantages):

Pros:
-It looks really cool
-Readilly accessable
-It looks really cool

Cons:
-It weighs you down to the point where the bag is tipped upward, thus causing the buckle to be where your neck meets the shoulder.
-For those who think it is more practical to wear the bag over the jacket, then this is for you (unless you want to go like Blade the DayWalker and cut a hole in your Wested

)
-hurts the shoulder after a while from friction...and I haven't even hiked with it, just walked around my hose and I have it on as we "speak"

I guess one could try the upsidedown method al la Croc Dundee, but the blade is too long and it would silly trying to unholster the knife.

It looks like I'm going to have to have two straps across my chest if I want to do this thing after all: 1.)MK VII strap underneath my jacket 2.)Shoulder Sheath. Unless...........

......to be continued

Indy N.

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Sat May 07, 2005 2:37 am

I think I figured out the slipping issue: Slip the gunbelt through the loop of the MK VII bag and wear as usual. The sword still pulls though, but not as bad as before...and the bag stays in it's place. So I guess I've got a sort of a Sam Browne rig going on. I am still interested in any comments/suggesstions and such. Like I said, what I've got now is only temporary, I really don't want to have masking tape being the only thing holding this rig together, although the color of the masking tape does blend nicely with the color scheme of the gear, lol.

Indy N.

VP · Post by VP » Sat May 07, 2005 7:33 am

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Sat May 07, 2005 8:22 am

I would be careful carrying the gladius up in New Hampshire. I know the Rangers do not take too kindly to hacking through the underbrush. They'll tell you that's what trails are for. The ethics of trail and backcountry use these days is the old cliche' "Leave only footprints and take only pictures." You never know what rare bird or amphibian is utilizing the bush you just hacked to pieces. -Just a thought and the end of my sermon.

Personally, I think it is a cool knife / sword / machete'. It looks more of a display piece than an actual field knife though. I hope it holds up for you.

As an aside, I think the bullwhip would probably scare a bear away. You could alway go up against one with a knife, like "Legends of the Fall."

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Sat May 07, 2005 10:12 am

Wasn't that what killed him in the end

? I'm no Davy Crockett, lol.

As to the NH trails thing, I see what you are saying. My friends and I we like to make our own trails around where we live (in Rhode Island). NH was just an anicdote of sorts. Neither one of us has a really good machette, ironically. Mine is more something to laugh at when we hike (I mean that in a good way).

--"Man, this shrub is thick. Anybody got a knife?" Then I'd reply,"Just a small one *as I unholster it*"......
They even refer to it as "Big Bertha", lol.

Though a display piece, I'd still like to have one for real use and later, in the future, have one for display (the one with the plaque). The knife is always inside the sheath anyways, so I figure I'd get another one to keep pristine...just like the rest of the gear: one for use, one for display.

Hemingway, please don't consider this as back-talk. I'm in agreement with you, and now I gotta watch the ending of
"Legends of the Fall"

(Just Kidding

)

Indy N.

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Sat May 07, 2005 10:23 am

Indiana Neri wrote:Wasn't that what killed him in the end ? I'm no Davy Crockett, lol.

Exactly. The old bear was just out there waiting for him, but "it was a good death, when it came."

Indiana Neri wrote:Hemingway, please don't consider this as back-talk. I'm in agreement with you, and now I gotta watch the ending of
"Legends of the Fall" (Just Kidding )
Indy N.

Not at all, We are neighbors afterall. I may see you out there and I'll help you fight the bear!

VP · Post by VP » Sat May 07, 2005 10:28 am

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Sat May 07, 2005 10:30 am

Cool pic. Is that Conan?

VP · Post by VP » Sat May 07, 2005 10:31 am

No, it's Indiana Neri you dolt.

Actually, I don't know. I found it with Google.

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Sat May 07, 2005 10:33 am

Good, because I'm gonna need it, Hemingway.

"You play dead, I'll go and get help." :idea:

Indy N.

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Sat May 07, 2005 10:36 am

That can't be me! I wouldn't be caught dead in a loin-cloth!

.

Indy N.

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Sat May 07, 2005 11:09 am

Hemingway Jones wrote:I would be careful carrying the gladius up in New Hampshire. I know the Rangers do not take too kindly to hacking through the underbrush. They'll tell you that's what trails are for. The ethics of trail and backcountry use these days is the old cliche' "Leave only footprints and take only pictures." You never know what rare bird or amphibian is utilizing the bush you just hacked to pieces. -Just a thought and the end of my sermon.

Personally, I think it is a cool knife / sword / machete'. It looks more of a display piece than an actual field knife though. I hope it holds up for you.

Yup, I haven't seen a Ranger yet that like people who got off of the trails. But I understand. If everybody in a park started running around making their own trails then the place would be destroyed in short order. However, I must confess that I prefer the more remote areas that don't have established trail systems.

I agree Hemingway, the sword is really more of a display piece. It just looks too nice to carry and use. In fact the dull edge it has shows that it wasn't intended for field use. But it is very cool!

Kris · Post by **Kris** » Mon May 09, 2005 10:02 am

You call that a knive ? THIS is a knife!

A Filipin Kyper knife, that is SHARP. 20" (51 cm) of blade, 27" (69 cm) total.

My dad brought it home after his travel to the Filipines (or however you spell it) ...

Now to get a shadow box for it, cause that thing is sharp as a razor. The second picture is the actual lighting of the shot, which I somehow achieved. No Photoshop in any of the images, except cropping

VP · Post by VP » Mon May 09, 2005 10:15 am

You call that a knife? I'd call it a sword.

Kris · Post by **Kris** » Mon May 09, 2005 10:57 am

Actualy, it can be considered like one yes

Minnesota Jones · Post by **Minnesota Jones** » Mon May 09, 2005 4:55 pm

I have one of those Khyber Pass Indy Bowies. They are very nice display pieces and even thou not "screen accurate" - they do work for a nice ToD picture...

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Mon May 09, 2005 5:03 pm

I did the same thing to my LL Bean shirt for the ToD look, too. Now I just need to garb a Wested shirt for regular wear, lol. I've got a couple of pix myself in ToD mode (if I can only find them).

Indy N.

Indiana · Post by **Indiana** » Mon May 09, 2005 7:17 pm

Another con of this thing is if you hit something with it (hard), the blade will most likely chip, and probably break. It made of stainless, and trust me, stainless steel isnt that strong when it comes to machettes/swords. You want a high carbon steel.

J_Weaver · Post by **J_Weaver** » Mon May 09, 2005 7:51 pm

Ist not just that its stainless steel but its the quality of the stainless steel. I may be wrong but I don't think that these knives, swords what ever you want to call them are made of top quality steel. Their display pieces that aren't intended for field use.

Kris · Post by **Kris** » Mon May 09, 2005 8:02 pm

Well, my sword IS made for field use