Who's whip should I buy

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:19 am

I'm going to making the plunge soon in the purchase of a 8', 12 plait Indy whip. But theres so many to choose from, so if you want answer the poll. Or just post here your thoughts. I added the Morgan but I don't think its in my price range or budget.
Paul Stenhouse's whip looks to be the most affordable, but they all look to be of high quality and the price can range from $255.00 to $380.00

Your thoughts and experiances will most appreacated.

Croft

Whipcrack · Post by **Whipcrack** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 8:52 am

I cast my vote for Paul Stenhouse as he is the only maker on your list whose whip I own.

You won't be disappointed, a Stenhouse whip is a real cracker of a whip and very high quality, made to last.

The 8 foot is the mort versatile length, as well.

Good luck and let us know what you order.

Thanks
Bill

winrichwhips · Post by **winrichwhips** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:13 am

All of the makers that you listed are quality makers with good reputations.

Of the makers you listed, Stenhouse probably has the best deal.

All I can add is that I'm currently making Indy-style kangaroo bullwhips for $30 per foot, so a whip of your specifications would be $240 plus shipping.

The only drawback is that the only colors that I have are saddle tan, whiskey, and brandy kangaroo hide.

I've also posted pics of my whips on the forum in the past so some of the members can see what my work looks like.

Best Regards,

Adam, www.winrichwhips.com

JAN · Post by **JAN** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:16 pm

Check this out http://www.em-brand-whips.com/

Bernie is a great guy to deal with and most important - he makes great
whips!

Best regards

JAN

Simon Martin · Post by **Simon Martin** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:47 pm

I have Natural Tan available. My Indy Bullwhip would set you back 310USD + postage. for a 8ft, 12 plait.
An excellent group of whipmakers. Hopefully I make it into that group one day

Regards

Simon Martin
www.whipmaker.com.au

Q8Indy · Post by **Q8Indy** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:43 am

Well I recommand Ben Scott.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:29 am

Indiana Croft wrote:I'm going to making the plunge soon in the purchase of a 8', 12 plait Indy whip. But theres so many to choose from, so if you want answer the poll. Or just post here your thoughts. I added the Morgan but I don't think its in my price range or budget.
Paul Stenhouse's whip looks to be the most affordable, but they all look to be of high quality and the price can range from $255.00 to $380.00

I can't just jump in here and vote without knowing what you want to use it for. Is it more of a prop piece and, maybe, every once in awhile you'll crack it? Or the complete opposite, and you don't really care about it being a prop piece, but actually want to get into whip cracking for real? Or, is it somewhere in between?

Indiana Texas-girl · Post by **Indiana Texas-girl** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:55 am

If you're willing to pay for a Joe STrain (Northern Whip Co.), I would go for that. Also I am 99% sure the whips at WEstern STage Props are STrains, unless they are now getting their whips from a different maker. Have you considered EC whips? I have a few of those and am very happy with them.

zohar · Post by **zohar** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:01 am

Not all of the WSP whips are made by Joseph Strain. If you want one of his through them, you will have to specifically ask for it.

Joe Strain is my whipmaker. I voted for him.

Mola Ram · Post by **Mola Ram** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:53 am

Dont leave out simon,
even though i dont own one of his whips ive been looking at
his site for a while. The stuff you make looks great. Do The makers
in tasmina learn from the same guy? all the makers down there seem
to have a similar style. (you had sent me a email a while back asking to
add your website to the link page on my website Omars whip bazzar?,
sorry i never got back to you.) But your stuff does look fantastic,
I never understood how it would be possible to make a 40 plait whip. I
have a hard time dealing with 16

.
Adam

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 12:47 pm

Indiana Irwin wrote:I can't just jump in here and vote without knowing what you want to use it for. Is it more of a prop piece and, maybe, every once in awhile you'll crack it? Or the complete opposite, and you don't really care about it being a prop piece, but actually want to get into whip cracking for real? Or, is it somewhere in between?

The sad truth is that there are no real substitutes for 'the look'. If you want an authentic-looking Indy-whip, you'll have to go for the high end whips... Indy didn't carry a Mexican 4-plait swivel-handled whip. Neither was his whip one of those crooked s&m kinda thingys one can get on eXxx. You can get both kinds for US$20, but they do not constitute a "prop replica".

Indiana Croft -
All the whipmakers that have been discussed in this thread are, to my understanding, excellent craftsmen who deliver a quality product. A 12-plait will cost you those $255.00 to $380.00 you mentioned. I own an East Coast Whips 8-plait 8-footer, and IMHO it's the most cost-effective Indy prop replica/functional whip there is. If you're considering a 12-plait, save up to another $100 and go for a 10- or 12-footer while you're at it...

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:48 pm

Scandinavia Jones wrote: If you want an authentic-looking Indy-whip, you'll have to go for the high end whips... Indy didn't carry a Mexican 4-plait swivel-handled whip.

I suggested a mexican whip in another thread just for meeting 'it's a cheap brown whip' criteria...got one myself, but I am still working the 'Indy-On-A Budget' angle, only. I agree, when I'm ready to step up to a more authentic Indy whip, I'm coming back to you guys for advice as well.

Scandinavia Jones wrote:I own an East Coast Whips 8-plait 8-footer, and IMHO it's the most cost-effective Indy prop replica/functional whip there is.

See, that's the kind of break-even point I'm looking for as well - find the best conjunction of the 'does it look right?' curve, the 'does it work?' curve, and the 'can i still afford it?' curve.

If you don't mind the asking, can you ballpark what you paid for the 8-plait 8' ECW? That might help Croft (and myself) w/ our 'wishlists'.

Thanks,
IJ

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 8:19 pm

I got mine from Classifieds, but last time I checked, you can get the 'Budget Indy' for $190.

Indiana Croft · Post by **Indiana Croft** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:01 pm

I can't just jump in here and vote without knowing what you want to use it for. Is it more of a prop piece and, maybe, every once in awhile you'll crack it? Or the complete opposite, and you don't really care about it being a prop piece, but actually want to get into whip cracking for real? Or, is it somewhere in between?

I plan on learning to crack it, mostly. I've been getting serious about collecting Indy gear latley. I won't be practicing 24/7 but I want to learn to crack a whip. The last whip I had was of poor quality.
I guess you could say it'll be recreational.

A 10' is out of the question as I think of my self as a beginer.
If I save my $$ I can go through Western stage props, am I to belive that if I request a Joe Strain whip I'll get one of his mfg.

Thanks for all your responses. This is almost like trying to order a Wested.
Croft

Indiana Joe · Post by **Indiana Joe** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:03 pm

Indiana Croft wrote: I guess you could say it'll be recreational.

A 10' is out of the question as I think of my self as a beginer.
If I save my $$ I can go through Western stage props, am I to belive that if I request a Joe Strain whip I'll get one of his mfg.

Croft, I agree that you should learn on an eight. I'm glad I did. It certainly made things easier when I got my 4 foot pocket bull from The Edge and also my 6 foot Rhett Kelley nylon. I learned on an 8 foot Tim Bass nylon per Sergei's recommendation and I've been cracking my 8 foot Joe Strain for four months now. Next whip will be a 10 footer but I think I'll finally break down and get a fedora first.

Food for thought---if you take the time to save up the money for a Strain, then you may want to consider calling him personally and just have him make it for you. Yes, it takes an extra 10 days but Joe gets to talk to you in order to find out exactly what you want and he can give you his expert suggestion(s). I cannot say enough about Joe Strain's product and his professionalism. There's a reason he charges a little more money and, in my opinion, the whip and the buying experience are definitely worth it.

I.J.

thunderquack · Post by **thunderquack** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:19 pm

just a question how do Keppler whips fare? any good?

Indiana Jerry · Post by **Indiana Jerry** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:03 am

If this thread is going to get bumped up anyway, I should point out that since this thread, Adam Winrich began offering a budget whip called the IOAB (Indy On A Budget) whip, and sometimes at first called the IOASS (Indy On A Shoe String) whip.

It's a 4-plait whip with a plaited handle and knob that isn't EXACTLY an Indy prop replica, but is FAR closer to meeting the 'indy-like' criteria most folks are looking for that drive them into the higher price ranges.

This whip is offered by Adam at 8', for $60. Yes, you are reading that right, I didn't drop a '0' off the end nor a '1' off the front. Sixty. Apparently each extra foot in another $10, too, if you want.

Search this forum (The Bullwhip) for 'IOAB' or 'Winrich' and you'll hit a bunch of threads, since several members have picked one up in the last month. Including me. LOVE it.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:40 am

Ditto on the IOAB whip! I love mine, too!

bink

JerseyJones · Post by **JerseyJones** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:14 pm

My personal recos go to Joe Strain and Jim Markell of EC Whips, only because I have the direct experience with them. Both are great whips, and I do suggest dropping each maker a note to acquaint yourself with them.

Peace
Ken

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:34 pm

I'd like to put a good word in for Jerry Rasmussen.

Jerry made me a totally customised Indy whip according to my preferences and I love it - repeat - love it.

Jerry is just fantastic to work with, he keeps you up to speed every step of the way and his final product is really super quality, I couldn't be happier.

I know there are many talented makers out there, but a big part of any great whip buying experience is feeling totally confident that you will end up with the whip you want - with Jerry, I never doubted that from the word 'go' as he was genuinely interested in what I wanted from a whip, the specs I would like. That really impressed me.

Regards,

Al

The_Edge · Post by **The_Edge** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:23 pm

When people order "customized" whips do they really know what the heck they are talking about or is it just aesthetics? A Whip is a whip is a whip afterall. Except for screen accurate knot placement of course.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:26 pm

Probably no more than a hat. A hat is a hat is a hat, more or less. But that said, if made to the customer's requested specs (even though it maybe just standard stuff for the whipmaker) rather than a pre-made menu, I'd suppose it would, and should, be considered 'customized' by the customer.

Regards. Michaelson

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:05 pm

'Customised' in that you can specify the length, number of bellies, plaits, handle/core, style of knots, length of fall, choice of leather etc etc..

Jerry asked me for all these things prior to starting work on the whip, making the end product a 'customised' whip to suit my practical and aesthetic needs.

The_Edge · Post by **The_Edge** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:07 pm

ob1al wrote:'Customised' in that you can specify the length, number of bellies, plaits, handle/core, style of knots, length of fall, choice of leather etc etc..

Jerry asked me for all these things prior to starting work on the whip, making the end product a 'customised' whip to suit my practical and aesthetic needs.

Good deal. Thank you.

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:23 pm

No problem - although I must admit, in my case it was an imposed fast learning curve - "number of bellies??...um.... " - but Jerry steered me right, thankfully. I'd owned a 10 foot EMbrand previously, so I was really just going on the basis that "I want the handle a little fatter and shorter so it's more comfortable for my hand size" or "I want this whip to be a little shorter so its easier to crack" - that kind of thing really, until Jerry narrowed it down to specifics.

Regards

Al

IndianaKrueger · Post by **IndianaKrueger** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:27 am

I owned the David Morgan 10 foot. The most expensive "fun-toy" I ever purchased. I waited 8 months for it, but when I got it, it was simply "Indy's Whip" Hands down.

14 years later, I am once again saving to replace it and crack it once more.

IK

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