Lee Keppler's S&W

LuckyLighter · Post by **LuckyLighter** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:34 pm

I'm planning on getting Lee's S&W replica, but before I do, I want to hear what people who already have it feel about it.

Are there any alternative--non-toy gun--replicas out there worth knowing about before I buy it?

Also, are there aqny pictures of Lee's Webley replica out there? I've been to his website, but I haven't seen a link for it.

schwammy · Post by **schwammy** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:45 pm

There's a guy who frequently sells resin SW replicas on ebay. To my eye they look better than the Keppler gun. The trigger guard appears to be more accurately sized, and it is painted to look more realistic.

Since this auction is over, I think it's safe for me to link to it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... tegory=790

He sells these frequently, so watch for another one in the near future.

GCR · Post by **GCR** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:46 pm

I can't comment on the quality of the product as I don't own any merchandise from Mr. Keppler (yet

) However, if you are looking for pics of the Webley Replica I'd check out Western Stage Props:

http://www.westernstageprops.com/miva/m ... y_Code=IJC

It's the second item from the bottom...they seem to have a couple other Keppler itmes on the site as well (The S&W replica, gunbelt and the Holster.)

-GCR

Rabittooth · Post by **Rabittooth** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:56 pm

schwammy wrote:There's a guy who frequently sells resin SW replicas on ebay. To my eye they look better than the Keppler gun. The trigger guard appears to be more accurately sized, and it is painted to look more realistic.

Since this auction is over, I think it's safe for me to link to it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... tegory=790

He sells these frequently, so watch for another one in the near future.

I've got that particular replica, and I must say I can't reccomend it. The piece I got was riddled with holes from bubbles in the resin during casting on one whole side of the gun...and I paid FULL price for it. I did my best to fill the holes, sand and re-finish it , but it never looked very good.
Better to not take the chance and get the Keppler IMHO.

-Rabittooth

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:35 pm

The trigger guard appears to be more accurately sized, and it is painted to look more realistic.

I thought the Keppler trigger guard just needed to have some flash sanded off...

/SJ

Arkansas Smith · Post by **Arkansas Smith** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 1:55 pm

I agree with rabittooth. I also purchased the replica that frequently sells on ebay (about 7 months ago). When I recieved it, the lanyard ring was broken (not packed/shipped well) and it had several of the air bubble holes in it. I filled them, painted the gun, and put in an actual lanyard ring. I am now pretty pleased, but just beware of the originally shipped item.

Arkansas Smith

schwammy · Post by **schwammy** » Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:04 pm

Good to know.
Glad I didn't buy one.
God bless the internet.

LuckyLighter · Post by **LuckyLighter** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:25 pm

I just tried to order a S&W replica from Western Stage Props. A couple days later I got a call saying they couldn't ship the gun--I also bought the holster--because I live in New Jersey and it is against the law for a manufacturer/distributer to ship any kind of gun (toy or real) to my state.

Has anyone else had this problem. The customer service guy said that he might me able to send it to a friend of mine in New Mexico, who could then ship it to me--because private citizens can send guns to each other, while merchants can't.

I can get a real gun more easily than I can get a fake one. That's just wrong, man. That's just wrong.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:36 pm

You can blame your State's law makers for that, my friend.

Regards. Michaelson

LuckyLighter · Post by **LuckyLighter** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:40 pm

Michaelson wrote:You can blame your State's law makers for that, my friend. Regards. Michaelson

Yeah, I know. I hope that I didn't come across as if I was bashing Western Stage Props, because they were friendly about it. I'm just frustrated with the situation my state has created, and I wanted to warn other residents of the Garden State who may be thinking about ordering a prop gun that they may have to look for other options.

It's just frustrating, you know.

Post by **Michaelson** » Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:42 pm

Totally understand. We had a string about this a while back from folks who live in NYC. The same situation exists there. Regards. Michaelson

jack · Post by **jack** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:16 pm

i've just looked at the pictures of the rubber prop, its a mark 4 .38 webley, it isn't a mark 6 .455, but as a visuable prop it looks ok, i'd prefer my real one though

jack

LuckyLighter · Post by **LuckyLighter** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:43 pm

Well, I finally got my prop gun just two days before Halloween. The guy at Western Stage Props was really helpful in offering my an alternative. He said that if I know someone in a state that does not prohibit the sale of fake guns, I can have him buy it and ship it to me once it arrives, which would be completely legal.

Fortunately, I have a friend in New Mexico, so he bought the gun for me, and once he got it, shipped it out second day mail to New Jersey. And I was able to have a 99% complete Indy costume for the Halloween parties I went to. (I say 99% because I won't be happy till I get a Wested)

JerseyJones · Post by **JerseyJones** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 5:29 pm

LuckyLighter wrote:
Michaelson wrote:You can blame your State's law makers for that, my friend. Regards. Michaelson
Yeah, I know. I hope that I didn't come across as if I was bashing Western Stage Props, because they were friendly about it. I'm just frustrated with the situation my state has created, and I wanted to warn other residents of the Garden State who may be thinking about ordering a prop gun that they may have to look for other options.

It's just frustrating, you know.

We are long past due to speak up on these issues with guns in our state. Anyone interested in lobbying to get the laws to match reality here in the People's Republic of New Jersey ? I am ! PM Me !

JJ

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:01 am

When I went to Las Vegas, I visited WSP with my Dad and Mom (I must say my father was like a kid in a candy store) and I had my Belt, holster, and rubber SW sent to me in little ol' Rhode Island....not a problem, just in time for Halloween too! Their products aren't too bad, the only thing taht bothers me is the keeper on the belt is too thin, but that's only minor details. Speaking of details, on the HE they duplicated every ding and nick from the prop, right down to a chip on the chamber release switch. BTW: does anyone really know what the purpose of the lanyard ring is for? It may be a dumb/obvious question but I gots to know.

Indy N.

(Sorry Lucky for hi-jacking your thread

)

skywlkr · Post by **skywlkr** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:04 am

The lanyard ring is for the lanyard the soldier would have around his neck to keep the gun teathered to him in the event that he drops it.

Luke

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 8:33 am

You'll even find lanyard rings on older police revolvers, too.

bink

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:52 am

oooh that makes sense

.

Indy N.

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:39 pm

So, what's the general opinion regarding Keppler's rubber S&W? Does it have a nice feel to it? Sturdy? Brittle? Good/lasting paint job?

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:47 pm

I've seen one in person at the Gettysburg summit. While it is a cool looking piece, it still looks like a painted toy gun. The grips on the one I saw kind of stood out as shiny brown paint. Also, the trigger doesn't pull, and there are no other moving parts.
I don't know about you, but half the fun in a toy gun, is to be able to pull that trigger, and at least get some sound out of it.
'Blues

Indiana Neri · Post by **Indiana Neri** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:49 am

I'm holding the gun in my hands as we "speak". It really looks cool and all and it scared the bejezzus out of a few of my friends, but I'm just kicking myself for spending $75.00 on this thing. It feels relatively(sp) light. It is by far a great display piece. The only thing that really bothers me is the trigger ring---it looks rather thick (if that wouold be the word). BTW: the Keppler S & W is teh same as the WSP gun, right?

Indy N.

Minnesota Jones · Post by **Minnesota Jones** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:33 pm

As far as I'm aware, it's the same gun. I have one too. It's nice. I did drill out the barrel about one inch inside to give it a more realistic appearance. Here's a pic of it with my real S&W (before I had the real one converted to a 4 inch barrel and a ramped site)