Tell me what I wanna know

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:24 am

I own the cotton indy and swore I wouldn't buy a leather. Should I do it anyway?

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:25 am

Hemingway Jones · Post by **Hemingway Jones** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:27 am

Absolutely,
You know you are going to. The faster you order, the quicker it will come. You know you will anyway.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:29 am

Yes. The cotton I love, but you really need a leather for the colder weather too and so can rotate them around as the seasons change. Regards. Michaelson

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:38 am

One good sign- I said to my wife (begrudgingly) that I may wind up buying the leather version. Her response-, "oh well".
Does it really get that cold in TN?

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:55 am

Cold enough to look good in a leather jacket.

Ultimately, you have to decide for yourself if you want the leather jacket, but as Indy gear goes, it's one of the most essential pieces of this puzzle. My feeling is that you may be asking yourself this question over and over to the point that you may get one anyway. That's how I got my Aldens, anyhow.

The cotton jacket looks great, but if you get the leather, you may find you'll never want to take it off...

bink

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:15 pm

Yes, it does get pretty cold in Tennessee. Had a few weeks in the teens and 20's last winter, and I live on the Alabama border! Regards. Michaelson

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:11 pm

If I may quote the late Bruce Lee:

'Don't think, feeel.

It is like a finger pointing to the moon...don't concentrate on the finger, or you miss all the heavenly glory.'

Or, in other words, buy the jacket man!

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:57 pm

Yes. It's not so much what you want. It's what you neeeed.

Regards,
Swindiana

Colby · Post by **Colby** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:02 pm

I live in southern Mississippi and it gets pretty darn cold in late fall and winter. Humidity makes it feel a LOT colder than the temp says.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:02 pm

I'm STILL trying to understand what Lee said.

Get a leather jacket. It eventually gets cold everywhere.

Regards. Michaelson

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:08 pm

Michaelson wrote:I'm STILL trying to understand what Lee said.

I'm not sure either... I think he might want to tell us how great the double gussetts are for when studying astronomy outdoors?

Regards,
Swindiana

Indiana Jess · Post by **Indiana Jess** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:36 pm

Jack Flanders wrote:I own the cotton indy and swore I wouldn't buy a leather. Should I do it anyway?

See what happens when you swear!?

Get the jacket! Yes, it leads to a leather jacket addiction from which you may never recover from financially, but, on the bright side, at least you'll look good on your journey to the poor house!

As far a Lee is concerned, didn't he also say "I do my own stunts."? So I don't put much stock in his wisdom.

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:38 pm

I'm not sure either... I think he might want to tell us how great the double gussetts are for when studying astronomy outdoors?

Maybe Bruce didn't know either, but it doesn't make it any less poignant.

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:54 pm

Gingham?

(I hate these trick questions.

)

Regards. Michaelson

Indiana Jess · Post by **Indiana Jess** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:10 pm

Michaelson wrote:Gingham? (I hate these trick questions. ) Regards. Michaelson

Michaelson, I'm trying to picture you in a gingham jacket and your blue checkered shirt. I can't seem to get my eyes to focus.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:34 pm

Jack Flanders wrote:I own the cotton indy and swore I wouldn't buy a leather. Should I do it anyway?

I'm more interested to know why you "swore" never to buy a leather? Cruelty to animals? Cost? Something else? Enquiring minds want to know...

Post by **Michaelson** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:34 pm

Must be all that caffine today. Factor in my pasley tie and my new colorful Stetson with the painted picture on the front, and tie dyed pants, and THEN try and focus. Talk about getting dizzy, even MY stomach just rolled over.

& never mind.

Regards. Michaelson

P.S. As I recall, in Jack's case, it was a matter of the cost at the time. Times change, and hopefully so has his pocketbook!

Indiana Blizzard · Post by **Indiana Blizzard** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:21 am

some people need to be told what to do...I demand you buy that jacket!!!
and you better do it soon or sooo help me!!

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:06 am

You know, they could always offer the jacket in vynil or pleather...

bink

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:26 am

I'm more interested to know why you "swore" never to buy a leather? Cruelty to animals? Cost? Something else? Enquiring minds want to know...

I got nothin' against carving up an animal for a jacket. Aldens are leather...I have a pair of those! I was thinking of getting cow hide. Hey, "cow" for "C.O.W.", that's funny...trust me.

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:15 pm

Just ordered me a "durable goatskin"...

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:20 pm

Fire up the tumble dryer

Well done!

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:04 am

Lamb just doesn't belong in a house with children. Correction: MY children.

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:05 pm

I cheated.
I was returning some pants at Eddie Bauer and noticed a very familiar looking leather jacket for sale- ok, familiar at 20 paces. I decided to try on the large…cavernous. I tried the medium…just right, in fact it was perfect. So I asked an attendant what the measurements were: 47.5” chest, 25.5” sleeves, 26.5” back. My cotton indy has similar measurements so I decided to use the ones garnered from the EB jacket. I wonder what the Wested will look like…

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 2:12 pm

Lamb just doesn't belong in a house with children. Correction: MY children.

Too true. Look what happened to Mary - her lamb followed her to school one day and a whole heap of trouble ensued. And that was only a LITTLE lamb, imagine one with a 47.5" chest!

Good thinking on the measurement front! Good choice with the goat too, it's the perfect mix of weight, looks and durability!

One word for when it arrives - PICS!

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:48 pm

My normal chest measurement is about 44" so, naturally, when I bought my cotton indy a while ago I ordered a 44. When I got the jacket it was too small in the chest- even with a t-shirt on, so then I ordered a 47" on the second go around. The fit was fine (I probably could have gone for a 46, but I can wear a sweater with it). I had been professionally measured prior to ordering the goat and was told that 44 would be the size, this was even after I told the tailor that I was having a custom leather jacket made, not a blazer, a COAT- something that I could comfortably wear while driving or punching. I promptly threw the advice of the tailor out the window when I was able to get measurements of the EB leather.

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:31 pm

Well Jack, funnily enough I also take a size 44 in a suit jacket, but found (through trial and error) that the best Wested size for me is a 43" (Peter will make custom sizes if you ask him to). There are probably a few other factors to take into account, such as shoulder width, posture etc - which may account for the differences people experience in sizing. Using a coat or jacket which fits you well as a basis for measurement seems to me to be a sensible way to go, alternatively get measured by a tailor or carefully take the measurements yourself, if you feel confident to do so.

My Grandfather was a joiner and cabinet maker for 60 years and in turn he taught me a lot about joinery.(as well as many other things in fact).

The best lesson he ever taught me was:

MEASURE TWICE, CUT ONCE.

That can be applied to a lot of things in life, in a round-about kind of way.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:32 pm

...as opposed to 'cut it off twice, and it's still to short!'? That's how I was taught...

Regards. Michaelson

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:49 pm

... or "cut off too much once, and curse twice", a procedure which, alas, is far too familiar to me...

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 5:56 pm

...as opposed to 'cut it off twice, and it's still to short!'? That's how I was taught... Regards. Michaelson

... or "cut off too much once, and curse twice", a procedure which, alas, is far too familiar to me...

Hey, I was being 'profound'!

And for that little faux pas SJ, you now owe me 3 pints..MWAHAHAHAHA...

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:12 pm

Hey, I was being 'profound'!

If you're searching for a forum in which to share your profoundness, you have chosen...

poorly.

And for that little faux pas SJ, you now owe me 3 pints..MWAHAHAHAHA...

Don't forget to take back two pints to honour the Swede, who's wallet this is...

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:18 pm

That response was good...it was... very good....

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:21 pm

SJ is on a roll today.

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:32 pm

I think that there really is no such thing as a correct "men's" size. The numbers should be used as a point of reference ONLY. For example: If I were to say to Peter that I wear a 98" in the chest, he may then give me a 63.75", I may find it a touch too tight and ask for another inch added, then to no one's surprise- it fits! Now, womens' pant sizes on the other hand are DEAD ON, that's what I call "cosmic irony" (there aren't any women in here today are there? My wife never reads this stuff...).

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:44 pm

I think the best proof of that theory, Jack, is the U.S. Wings jacket size chart. They go specifically with weight and height, and 'bang', they have a size for you. In that case, using their chart, I require a large. Problem is, I get LOST in their large. Medium fits perfectly 'body' wise, and yet the sleeves are to short, and yet according to their chart, this jacket would not be recommended! This is the danger of a 'generalized' mens sizing...

Regards. Michaelson

Indiana Jess · Post by **Indiana Jess** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:51 pm

Jack Flanders wrote: ... Now, womens' pant sizes on the other hand are DEAD ON ...

And you would know this how? No wait ... I don't really want to know!

All together now: "I'm a LumberJack and I'm ok" ... wait a second here. Hmm ... LumberJACK .... JACK Flanders ... coincidence?

Sorry couldn't resist that one.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Mon Aug 23, 2004 7:18 pm

Jack Flanders wrote:Now, womens' pant sizes on the other hand are DEAD ON, that's what I call "cosmic irony" (there aren't any women in here today are there? My wife never reads this stuff...).

Do you mean how a woman can say, "I'm a size 8..." or "I'm a size 14" or "I'm a size 24" or whatever... and the pants always fit and look right; even given the variation in women's bodies, hips, butts, etc?

Yes. I have marvelled at that, too. It's bizarre.

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:25 am

Indiana Jess wrote: And you would know this how? No wait ... I don't really want to know!

Uh...hey guys, catch that Lakers game, throw me a beer!

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:15 am

Just got the order confirmation, 21 days to go. That should coincide with my birthday nicely.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:23 am

Good one! What did you end up going with?

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:30 am

ToD, I need the length.
Hey, look, my title is "Archaeologist" now!

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:39 pm

This is a horrible website to visit whilst waiting for one's leather jacket to arrive.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:45 pm

Yep...just like hanging around a smoke shop right after you quite smoking cold turkey. (grins) Regards. Michaelson

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:06 pm

Wow, I could take up smoking to pass the time! Thanks, man!
(tee-hee)

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:10 pm

Whoops.

Well, I could have suggested drinking, but then you'd be like poor old Indiana Jess, and one of those around here is enough.

Regards. Michaelson

Indiana Jess · Post by **Indiana Jess** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:33 pm

To paraphrase W.C. Fields "IndyGear drove me to drink, I should send the mods a thank you card." *hic* Michaelson, if L & S were to cast me as Indy, they probably have to go with Foster Brooks at Jones Sr.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:18 pm

Or we could play 'Bartles and James'! How's THAT for an idea?

Regards. Michaelson

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:34 pm

This is getting better by the minute: Smoking AND drinking games! I'm going to start right now *COUGH*, *sip*, *COUGH*.

Post by **Michaelson** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:41 pm

Very good. We've done our job, made you forget your, uh, well, your, uh, you know....

Regards. Michaelson

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