Wested pants - the new colour

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:03 pm

My new pants from Wested arrived today!

The new colour is great! Definitively a bit more ToD/LC...
Original version:

New version:

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:09 pm

He changed the color? Maybe he can change the way the shirts fit, too!

Looking good... though I'm collecting Raiders gear. Do you think this is still sufficient? I'm still heavily leaning towards getting a pair.

In Christ,
Shane

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:35 pm

I don't know Shane... personally, I think Peter's first batch was more "Raiders", but others find them too light in colour... that goes for the Wested shirts, too - They are screen-accurate as in they are what you see on screen... preferrably in the Cairo scenes, where strong sunlight made Indy's gear look much lighter.

But hey - nothing wrong in mixing up the movie styles! "Eclectic Indy", as it were... in my above pic, I have a ToD holster to the Raiders pants...

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:51 pm

You could always argue, too, that if he wore some "surplus" gear, there were variants in colour due to that, alone.

bink

Indiana Jarmyr · Post by **Indiana Jarmyr** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:08 pm

My pants were supposed to arrive today, but because I had to go to class I couldn't be home to receive them, so now I have to wait until tomorrow. After seeing these, I really can't wait! I am also very anxious to see if my shirt will fit...

Indiana_Tom · Post by **Indiana_Tom** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:13 pm

Personally I like the new color more than the old one. The shirt could also be a bit darker, but anyway I like it.
Maybe Peter offers two versions soon? Raiders and TOD/LC style?

Regards,

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 2:18 pm

Maybe Peter offers two versions soon? Raiders and TOD/LC style?

Alas, I don't think so. I asked them about this, and here's what Gerry wrote back:

We have changed the pants to a slightly darker shade and the material to 100% wool due to the comments received, but all other details remain the same.

I'm all for this new colour too - being a ToD-man...

The "Raiders" version works in the summer, though.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:33 pm

Indiana Jarmyr wrote:My pants were supposed to arrive today, but because I had to go to class I couldn't be home to receive them, so now I have to wait until tomorrow.

WHAT?! They let you go to school without pants?!

bink

Indiana Jarmyr · Post by **Indiana Jarmyr** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:55 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:
Indiana Jarmyr wrote:My pants were supposed to arrive today, but because I had to go to class I couldn't be home to receive them, so now I have to wait until tomorrow.
WHAT?! They let you go to school without pants?!

bink

Yeah, my legs are so hairy noone ever notice.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:01 pm

T.M.I.!!! T.M.I.!!!!!

Indiana Jarmyr · Post by **Indiana Jarmyr** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:07 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:T.M.I.!!! T.M.I.!!!!!

I wont even pretend I know what that means...

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:00 pm

That's "Too Much Information"...

Indiana Jarmyr · Post by **Indiana Jarmyr** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:10 pm

Well... He asked for it.

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:15 pm

Yes, I did.

bink

Post by **Jens** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:29 pm

binkmeisterRick wrote:
Indiana Jarmyr wrote:My pants were supposed to arrive today, but because I had to go to class I couldn't be home to receive them, so now I have to wait until tomorrow.
WHAT?! They let you go to school without pants?!

bink

Indiana Jarmyr · Post by **Indiana Jarmyr** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:41 pm

Have you all forgotten that both HF and Connery played that zeppelin scene without pants? I'm just living the dream, my friends

Indiana_Tom · Post by **Indiana_Tom** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:47 pm

Indiana Jarmyr wrote:Have you all forgotten that both HF and Connery played that zeppelin scene without pants? I'm just living the dream, my friends

We ALL should do that!

binkmeisterRick · Post by **binkmeisterRick** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:48 pm

That's right! I thought Connery played an awesome Robert Plant in that scene, too. 8-[

bink

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:00 pm

Have you all forgotten that both HF and Connery played that zeppelin scene without pants? I'm just living the dream, my friends

That's right! I thought Connery played an awesome Robert Plant in that scene, too.

What exotic desert vegetation have you been nibbling on, gentlemen?

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:34 pm

I purchased my Wested trousers in the 'first batch', and I have to say they look more like the second pair pictured than the first - not grey at all, but a brown / khaki type colour.

How are the new pants changed from that? They look no different to me...?:?

Mind you, I have imbued a glass of vino or three this evening with friends, so I wouldn't take my POV as gospel...

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:39 pm

Are the back pockets the same on this pair? I think I remember there was a "tuck in" line on them unlike the MBA pants...

EDIT: http://www.indygear.com/gear/pants.shtml Comparison of first batch Wested VS. MBA.

I haven't gotten around to it yet, but I'll soon order myself a pair.

Regards,
Swindiana

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:00 pm

Tuck in-line's still there... it's the same design, only the fabric colour has changed.

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:09 pm

Thanks buddy.

Regards,
Swindy

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:16 pm

ob1al wrote:

Mind you, I have imbued a glass of vino or three this evening with friends, so I wouldn't take my POV as gospel...

I'll post some serious comparison pics for you tomorrow, after I pick up my first pair from the cleaners.
I expect you're aware of the fact that you owe me a few pints after I posted them for you.

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:45 pm

Indiana_Tom wrote:
Indiana Jarmyr wrote:Have you all forgotten that both HF and Connery played that zeppelin scene without pants? I'm just living the dream, my friends
We ALL should do that!

I agree... next time we see tickets for a zeppelin on sale, we'll all get tickets and do it with no pants on.

Moving on... if the pants are now 100% wool, how do they feel (itchy?) and are they okay to wash at home now?

In Christ,
Shane

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:02 pm

Not a bit itchy (well. for the super-sensitive, maybe) and nope, dry-clean only...

Got Maul · Post by **Got Maul** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:20 am

can we get a comparison of these pants to an MBA set ??

Indiana Jarmyr · Post by **Indiana Jarmyr** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:28 am

Well, the shirt and the pants arrived today, and fortunately they both seem to fit me. I tried to take some pictures of the pants, but I'm afraid it didn't turn out very well. The color of the pants is not as light as they seem to be in the picture.

And I can't find any washing instructions on the shirt, and as it is quite wrinkly, I would like to iron it. Does anyone know what settings I should choose?

Swindiana · Post by **Swindiana** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:00 am

And I can't find any washing instructions on the shirt, and as it is quite wrinkly, I would like to iron it. Does anyone know what settings I should choose?

Instructions should be at the very bottom of the shirt below the row of buttons.

This is what they say anyway: 100% cotton, 40 degrees, 2 dots on the old iron, do not bleach, dry clean with perchloreethylene..

Regards,
Swindiana

Indiana Jarmyr · Post by **Indiana Jarmyr** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:04 am

Now I found it. I was looking for it around the collar.

Thanks, Swindiana

Renderking Fisk · Post by **Renderking Fisk** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 10:15 am

I'm confused... do they offer either fabric or are they sticking to just the darker from now on?

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 12:56 pm

Here we go... both pairs side by side...

Left - old fabric, right - new fabric. Oh, and Alan, you know what posting this pic means...

INDIANAMIKEY wrote:

Are they heavy wool or light dress pants type????

What can I say... they're cavalry twills pants!

This fabric used to be the material for dress pants, preferrably to be worn with a navy blue club jacket/blazer. So yes, they are dressy, but they're nothing like "modern day" dress pants...

Renderking Fisk wrote:

I'm confused... do they offer either fabric or are they sticking to just the darker from now on?

As far as Gerry's e-mail goes, this is the colour of the trousers from now on. Peter and several tailors I've been talking to say that there's a severe shortage of this particular fabric... nobody really wears cavalry twills any more (except for a bunch of people who... well, you know), hence the drought.
I hope Noel Howard has several rolls of the stuff stashed somewhere...

Got Maul · Post by **Got Maul** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:25 pm

beautiful pic ! I would think that MBA is right in the middle of those two colors. Darker than the first Wested and still lighter than the darker wested.

Overall, I would prefer it darker if I had the choice ! Nice pair of pants !

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:41 pm

Doesn't look very close to Raiders to me at all... but hey, I don't doubt that they're excellent pants, and at least there's something on the market for us to get. Oh well. Now, if they change the shirt to this color, too...

In Christ,
Shane

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:16 pm

I expect you're aware of the fact that you owe me a few pints after I posted them for you.

Dang! You posted the pics!

Now I'm vino free and I have a idiot-proof visual reference, which always helps in my case, I can see the difference alright.

Yeah, the new pair are a much darker brown - but you already said that

- but I wonder why the change was made? They look very nice, but I wonder what or who inspired the change?

If you don't know the answer to that, you owe me 5 pints.

Indiana Jarmyr · Post by **Indiana Jarmyr** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:27 pm

It seems that these pants are very hard to take a good picture of. I am sure mine are the same as Scandinavia's, but I don't think they are that dark. More like something in between the two pants in the picture.

Got Maul · Post by **Got Maul** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 4:20 pm

I think they still look phenominal

I thought the first set was actually too light

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:29 pm

Yeah, the new pair are a much darker brown - but you already said that - but I wonder why the change was made? They look very nice, but I wonder what or who inspired the change?

If you don't know the answer to that, you owe me 5 pints.

Please refer to my above post answering Ren's question... no, don't. I'll quote myself, and as a result, you owe me several Imperial gallons as a token of you appreciation:

Peter and several tailors I've been talking to say that there's a severe shortage of this particular fabric... nobody really wears cavalry twills any more (except for a bunch of people who... well, you know), hence the drought.
I hope Noel Howard has several rolls of the stuff stashed somewhere...

The cavalry twills trousers are endangered species... as are the gents who wore them on their strolls in Mayfair and around Sloane Square... stuff is not being made in any quantities any more.

Colby · Post by **Colby** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:41 pm

I like the new color. Seems much richer and darker in contrast to the jacket and shirt. I always thought the old color was too light myself.

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:48 pm

If you're going for the summer leisure/streets of Cairo look (sans jacket), the old pants are just great. I too prefer the new colour - goes better with the jacket and the darker leather of the Aldens...

I wore them out for the first time just now, and felt a sudden urge to infiltrate Nazi castles in Prag or check out the latest Thuggee rave from a safe, preferrably elevated position... the new pants are really, really good!

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:31 pm

The cavalry twills trousers are endangered species... as are the gents who wore them on their strolls in Mayfair and around Sloane Square...

Come October, I have a sneaky feeling there's going to be a sudden resurgence of cavalry twills around Sloan square.... they’ll think they've hit a divergence in the space-time continuum when we pull in.

McFly · Post by **McFly** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:43 pm

Yeah, we have to be careful of that space time continuum. We could potentially create a time paradox, unravelling the very fabric of the continuum, and destroy the entire universe! Granted that's a worst case scenario. The damage may be limited to merely our own galaxy.

In Christ,
Shane

Bufflehead Jones · Post by **Bufflehead Jones** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:54 pm

Where's my pants and shirt, everyone else is getting their's. I ordered mine a long time ago.

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Fri Aug 27, 2004 8:10 pm

unravelling the very fabric of the continuum, and destroy the entire universe!

As long as it doesn't unravell the very fabric of my Indy pants.

Bufflehead, you could always ask Peter in person...

...hint hint...

henryindianajonesjr44 · Fri Aug 27, 2004 9:41 pm

When did Wested change the color? I ordered mine about three weeks ago....
Andy

Scandinavia Jones · Post by **Scandinavia Jones** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:57 pm

When did Wested change the color? I ordered mine about three weeks ago....

I e-mailed Gerry on July 17 and asked about the new colour, which was a fact already then... my guess is, you're going to get the new colour pants.

zeus36 · Post by **zeus36** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:09 am

IndyMcFly wrote:

Moving on... if the pants are now 100% wool, how do they feel (itchy?) and are they okay to wash at home now?

Shane

As to wool washing at home. I've done it to some thirft store wool pants and they came out fine. The thing about wool is NOT to agitate it and NOT to hang it to line dry. For itchy pants, add a little baby oil to the water or Woolite. I would suggest testing hand washing on a cheap pair of wool pants first! I think it gives a "period" look to the pants. Take your dress pants and make 'em look like Indy ones. Get rid of the creases and give them a broken-in look. Did they have dry cleaners in the '30s? (or the jungles of South America, or India, or Alexandreta)

I found a tip on the web:

Q. "Can I wash wool, even if the label says to dry-clean? "

A. "Wool fabric can be washed with a certain amount of care. Most labels suggest dry cleaning because there are a variety of fabrics and materials used in the garment construction that have different care requirements. If you decide to try washing a wool garment at home, wash it in the same manner as a wool sweater. Hand wash in cool water with a mild soap. Rinse with cool water and squeeze out the water- don't wring. Roll the garment in a towel to remove the excess water. Reshape the garment and lay flat to dry. Press using steam and a press cloth. "( a towel)

Indianafred · Post by **Indianafred** » Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:42 pm

How about disstressing both shirt+pants, has anyone done that?

henryindianajonesjr44 · Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:12 pm

Yep I got the new ones.
Andy