Now this is -- An Adventurer's Jacket!
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Now this is -- An Adventurer's Jacket!
I received my Wested Horsehide LC jacket yesterday and I don't know where to start in telling you just how incredible this jacket is! First of all, the colour ...it is a dark brown, but nowhere in the range of the dark brown found in the lamb hide jackets. It has an almost russett tone to it (depending on the lighting you are in) ...almost a hint of red to the brown. Very rich, thick textured colouring! To the naked eye (at least mine) this jacket looks much more like the lamb jackets do on film (you know..the illusion that the jacket seen on the screen is something heavier or heartier than lamb). The jacket drapes beautifully and is unbelievably broken in (feeling to the touch)! This is indeed what I would picture Indy to have worn in the 30's, 40's, etc. I had the gussetts added to this one and for the record, when you order gussetts for the jackets they are single gussetts which I would have thought I would have been disapointed with, but I am not -- just the right touch for adding to the extra ease of arm movement! I honestly don't know how to express how fabulous this jacket is! I am rarely at a loss for words about things of which I am passionite about, but this jacket actually has me almost speachless! It is that cool! I will post more (when I am not hyperventilating) and attempt to get some pics up, as well! Peter/Gerry and all the team at Wested -- two thumbs up and thanks! W>
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Guys and Gals: I couldn't agree more...it is not nice to 'share with out sharing', however I am on the road for the next few days (business) and
I have barely had any time alone with my jacket, much less time to shoot pics. Truly sorry for that, but can't be avoided. Gotta to earn the pay to support my 'Indy addictions'! W>
I have barely had any time alone with my jacket, much less time to shoot pics. Truly sorry for that, but can't be avoided. Gotta to earn the pay to support my 'Indy addictions'! W>
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PIC's PIC's PIC's.... I must be crazy cause all this talk of goat and horsehide jackets is makin' me want another Wested. A jacket that can withhold a good beating or two...or three...or four, who knows. Did I mention PIC's?
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Well, that's understandable then.Gotta to earn the pay to support my 'Indy addictions'!
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C'mon! You can't tease us and then leave! Hey - post these pics or we send in Mola Ram!WConly wrote:Guys and Gals: I couldn't agree more...it is not nice to 'share with out sharing', however I am on the road for the next few days (business) and
I have barely had any time alone with my jacket, much less time to shoot pics. Truly sorry for that, but can't be avoided. Gotta to earn the pay to support my 'Indy addictions'! W>
It involves a change in mindset, yes. I've already gone through it. For me, the clincher was a combination of learning that most jackets of Indy's era were horse (I'm an era-snob, rather than a screen accurate-snob ), combined with the fact that horses aren't raised to be slaughtered for leather anymore (which is why the stuff is so rare), so I felt comfortable with the choice of ordering one.Langpuss wrote:It sounds great and I'm really happy for you. BUT, am I the only one out there who finds it weird to wear horsehide?? Just the sound of it makes me uncomfortable. From what you've edscribed, it sounds like a great leather jacket- but I could never make myself wear horse -it'd be the same as eating horse - I just couldn't do it., Do I stand alone?
Yes, I believe that is the case. Look, don't get me wrong on this - leather has been made from all sorts of creatures for a very, very long time. What I am trying to do is reply to the question of horse being a bit weird for a jacket, by pointing out that they were very very very common in Indy's eraCaptain D wrote:Weren't both leathers, Horse and Goat, used in WWII? If so, that would make both leathers "historically/Indiana Jones accurate," right?
Yes! Horsehide was the number one type of 'material' utilized in the making of the original 'A2's' starting w/WW1 and goat was the secondary hide used. From there, depending on what was available cow, lamb, etc. was utlized...not much lamb because if it's light weight. It is a mind set. I had a diffcult time before ordering any jacket in horsehide, until my recent purchase of a jacket from Lost Worlds in the hide. And, from the first moment with that jacket, and now this one -- this is the hide of the period! It is authentic to the time period of Indy and even the aroma reminds me of my 'honorary Uncle' (best friend of my Dad) who was a flyer in WW11 -- I remember the smell of his A2. It is unique. It is like the jacket has a life of it's own. Hard to explain to someone who doesn't get into the more passionite side of things. Kind of like trying to explain the feelling one gets when visiting the Alamo (when you are in tune with the place) who doesn't feel the history there. The walls talk. They really do. So does a jacket of this nature. With this particular jacket -- it is like I can feel the adventure that goes with it!
Man! Now I am really digging myself in! More tease and less delivery ...but look at it this way. It is kind of like radio -- theatre of the mind. The more you imagine it -- the greater it plays with the mind -- and, the more fantastic it seems. I know I cannot talk my way out of not delivering instant pics with this one, but that is just the situation I am stuck with at the moment. I will make amends. Thanks for your patience. And, for those upset with the idea of horsehide as a garment ...do just a bit of research and open up to the 'period in quesiton'...you might surprise yourselves and discover a whole new passsion for this particular type of hide...and, if not ..that's fine too! No two people are alike and we all don't have to share the same ideas, feelings, or concepts of what 'should be'! I am just grateful that I have expanded my options re: this subject and that I have the opportunity to share and discuss said options with all of you! All regards. W>
Man! Now I am really digging myself in! More tease and less delivery ...but look at it this way. It is kind of like radio -- theatre of the mind. The more you imagine it -- the greater it plays with the mind -- and, the more fantastic it seems. I know I cannot talk my way out of not delivering instant pics with this one, but that is just the situation I am stuck with at the moment. I will make amends. Thanks for your patience. And, for those upset with the idea of horsehide as a garment ...do just a bit of research and open up to the 'period in quesiton'...you might surprise yourselves and discover a whole new passsion for this particular type of hide...and, if not ..that's fine too! No two people are alike and we all don't have to share the same ideas, feelings, or concepts of what 'should be'! I am just grateful that I have expanded my options re: this subject and that I have the opportunity to share and discuss said options with all of you! All regards. W>
Why was original A-2 made out of horsehide?
The answer is a bit mundane....
...Because prior to WW 2 the Army (which owned the Army Air Corps...no US Air Force until 1947) had a lot of "Government Horses" in the Cavalry.
Fort Riley Kansas, was the home of the "remount station"...where recalcitrant horses were retrained and sick one's expired. IE...economics...they owned the horses in life & the horses still served (as A-2s) after their demise.
PS--To make the point...Talk about great, period films...about 1940... "The Bugle Calls" starring Wallace Beery as a flint hard old Cavalry sergeant who cannot adjust to the fact that he has had to "turn in" his beloved mount Cantigny (named after a WW I battle) for an armored car. By 1941 prior to 7 Dec...horse Cav was disbanded...mounts were sold...and Armored Divisions formed....they make their debut in 1941 in the Louisiana Maneuvers to prove horses aint got no place on the modern battlefield (honest men can disagee with that, of course).
The answer is a bit mundane....
...Because prior to WW 2 the Army (which owned the Army Air Corps...no US Air Force until 1947) had a lot of "Government Horses" in the Cavalry.
Fort Riley Kansas, was the home of the "remount station"...where recalcitrant horses were retrained and sick one's expired. IE...economics...they owned the horses in life & the horses still served (as A-2s) after their demise.
PS--To make the point...Talk about great, period films...about 1940... "The Bugle Calls" starring Wallace Beery as a flint hard old Cavalry sergeant who cannot adjust to the fact that he has had to "turn in" his beloved mount Cantigny (named after a WW I battle) for an armored car. By 1941 prior to 7 Dec...horse Cav was disbanded...mounts were sold...and Armored Divisions formed....they make their debut in 1941 in the Louisiana Maneuvers to prove horses aint got no place on the modern battlefield (honest men can disagee with that, of course).
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It's my understanding that through his demise, Mr. Fred became the glue that held the rest of his family together. BTW, it the jacket does "talk" to you, chances are you've been cheated out of a horsehide and given a jacket made from the hide of Frances the talking mule. (Hmm ... have jackets ever been made from mule hide?)