Help me size my new Wested Raiders.

creamedgeezer · Post by **creamedgeezer** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:27 am

I know I took accurate measurements for my first one, but I thin I took them from the wrong points. I need you guys to point out (use photoshop or something) where exactly to take my measurements for an accurate and comfortable fit.

http://upload.creamedgeezer.com/images/ ... -front.jpg
http://upload.creamedgeezer.com/images/ ... t-back.jpg

If you can, just make a start and end point for each measurement. I really need help.

Thanks!
-Jeff

creamedgeezer · Post by **creamedgeezer** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:09 am

Maybe MSPaint, or paint Shop Por would work?

creamedgeezer · Post by **creamedgeezer** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:20 pm

I'd rather retake them, since I didn't get anything right last time.

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:35 pm

I would advise you to measure everything again if you were not happy with the fit of your last jacket. Take Michaelson's advice on your last thread in regard to what to measure and how to measure it.

Wested recommend using a jacket which fits you well (you may have a denim jacket which fits you prefectly?) and take some measurements from there too.

To get things really spot-on, you could always pop in to a local tailor and get measured up - you can then go ahead with your order in confidence.

Not wanting to cloud the issue, but if you are interested in my personal recommendation then I suggest you get measured by a tailor and opt for tapered sleeves (ie smaller at the cuff), an extra 1 inch in the front, cotton body and satin sleeves, brass hardware and two-piece underarm gussets.

The above combination has worked best for my tastes.

creamedgeezer · Post by **creamedgeezer** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:49 pm

Up until now I've just been a hooded sweatshirt type of guy, so no luck there. Are the gussets really something I need? From what I've been reading, they were used on the stunt jackets.

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 2:54 pm

No, your jacket will be screen accurate with or without gussets. I just recommend them.

Jack Flanders · Post by **Jack Flanders** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 3:01 pm

Herr Langpuss,
I gave a measurement of 44R initially but when it arrived it fit like a suit- I couldn't punch anyone without ripping the jacket! So I sent it back and sized it up to a 46R- fits great now. Someone posted that the jackets are fitted like suits. Would you agree?

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:38 pm

'bog standard'?! Is that a good thing, or a bad thing, Langpuss?

Regards. Michaelson

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:47 pm

Nope. We don't have to many 'bogs' over here, and when found, they're never standard. (grins) Regards. Michaelson

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:00 pm

Of course 'Bog' also means 'a toilet'...

Post by **Michaelson** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:03 pm

...also not always standard. (grins) Regards. Michaelson

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:12 pm

...and that's when sheer willpower and the ability to avoid the sound of running water comes in handy.

Say, what was the topic?

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IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:17 pm

Jack Flanders wrote:Herr Langpuss,
I gave a measurement of 44R initially but when it arrived it fit like a suit- I couldn't punch anyone without ripping the jacket! So I sent it back and sized it up to a 46R- fits great now. Someone posted that the jackets are fitted like suits. Would you agree?

I'm glad you brought this up. The Wested jacket patterns seem to compare to a business suit jacket. Basically in fit, and form. The sleeves are attached in a similar style as a business suit. Thats part of the reason there is some ride up while putting your arms forward while wearing your Wested. Adding an inch or so will help this to some extent.
If anyone would like to see this for themselves, just put on a business suit jacket, and raise your arms forward as if in a driving position, or the infamous Frankenstien pose. Not that anyone would ever walk around like this, but you will do certain things that the sleeves may hinder movement. You will notice the same ride up on a business jacket. Also, the angle the sleeves are attached on a Wested are similar to the angle on a business suit jacket.

Ob1Al asked if there were any questions we wanted to ask Peter when he meets up with him at he UK summit.
This is one of the things I was hoping could be pointed out in person from a fan, because I'm curious as to what could be done to address this.
The jacket looks awesome in it's cut, and design. While standing with arms by your sides in a normal manner, which BTW, is how we spend about 99% of the time, it's perfect. It' just that other 1% when we are driving our cars, reaching for things, that you feel any problem.
This may be only me, but I think there are a few other COW members who experience this phenomenon.
'Blues

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:22 pm

Blues

I have to say that I agree with your reasoning on this one 100%. I think it would be a good improvement to slightly change the angle of the arms to accomodate extra free movement, as you suggest.

I know Peter mentioned that he was considering this a while back, but I would be glad to put in to him again at the UK summit.

creamedgeezer · Post by **creamedgeezer** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:30 pm

I REALLY need a visual aid. Last time I tried going by the directions on the wested site, but I don't trust myself anymore.

IndyBlues · Post by **IndyBlues** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:36 pm

ob1al wrote:Blues

I have to say that I agree with your reasoning on this one 100%. I think it would be a good improvement to slightly change the angle of the arms to accomodate extra free movement, as you suggest.

I know Peter mentioned that he was considering this a while back, but I would be glad to put in to him again at the UK summit.

Yes, from a few weeks back, I believe, Peter has altered the sleeve angle slightly, in a forward position. This very well may help the situation.
We shall see. As soon as someone gets a jacket with this mod, I'd love to hear more.
'Blues

ob1al · Post by **ob1al** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 5:45 pm

Blues, you have a PM.

I REALLY need a visual aid. Last time I tried going by the directions on the wested site, but I don't trust myself anymore.

creamedgeezer, can't you go to a local tailor if you feel that unsure about measuring? They could sort you out straight away mate and take the stress out of the procedure somewhat.

The pictures you originally posted of your old jacket didn't look off-beam to me, aside from the fact that the arms were maybe an inch too short.

You said the jacket fitted you well when zipped up, so why not just go for the same size again, or 1 size up would be OK too, just adding an extra inch or two to the arms and an extra inch at the front of the jacket? Just a suggestion - I still think a tailor is your best bet.

Mr. Das · Post by **Mr. Das** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:02 pm

You can always go to a tailor and get measured there.

If you want the home version, you'd need someone to help you anyways.

What didn't fit right with your first jacket. I guess the sleeves would be first,

http://ca.f2.pg.briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/ ... bc&.view=l

The first picture is regarding the sleeves. I assume the shoulders fit perfect since they look that way. So measure from the shoulder seam of that jacket down to where I drew the intersecting line. That's where Peter wants the measurement for the sleeve. You'll also notice that I extended it by a little bit(close to the knuckles on the fingers). This is my personal preference as the jacket will shrink and wrinkle a bit over time(so just being prepared I guess).

The second picture is regarding the jacket ride up. I'd add about an inch and a half to the front to prevent the jacket from riding up like that. Is the jacket zipped up in that picture? If it isn't, then it'll probably go up a bit more.

And do you normally wear shirts untucked and are they normally that long? It's a personal preference, but you may want to consider a Temple of Doom length so that it matches the length of your t-shirt.
And it might just be me, but the cargo pockets look a bit oversized. It might just be because you have a smaller size jacket and the pocket size is universal for all sizes, but it looks a bit awkward IMO

creamedgeezer · Post by **creamedgeezer** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:09 pm

Thanks for the pics! The jacket IS unzipped in those pics. Should I really measure that low on the sleeve? Or is that where it will hang? Sorry for all the questions.

Thanks Again!
-Jeff

Mr. Das · Post by **Mr. Das** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 6:30 pm

It'll be at that length. But when your sleeves end at your first thumb knuckle, when you're driving or the frankenstein's monster position(as someone on this board calls it), it'll stop right at your wrist.

There's really no right or wrong way for sleeves. If you're like me, you'll prefer it just a bit longer.

Your current jacket has sleeves that are perfect for a suit, since they show a bit of cuff from your shirt, but it wouldn't look that great when your strolling in a mall with your leather jacket while showing cuff from a sweater.

creamedgeezer · Post by **creamedgeezer** » Sun Aug 29, 2004 7:14 pm

I think I'm gonna go with the goat, but the predistressed looks neat too, does it come in different levels of distress? If it does, I would really like a lightly distressed look.