Club Obi Wan

folkprophet

One thing I never realized about whips until I started collecting them is the longer you have them the darker they get. So if anything the old Indy should have a dark one like LC and the young Indy should have a light one like Raiders. Makes sense. Unless you consider that he has owned/gone through...

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With how much the whip was not used in the last film..... I'm pretty sure it's a far far afterthought. The director, costume designer, etc probably just say, brown whip and take the word of the whip master on what kind that Indy should use as long as it's similar to the ones used in the previous fi...

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To be fair, they didn't test trying to take the gun out of someone's hand while said person tried to shoot them first.

folkprophet

Dude that's awesome that you shared that! So tell us what is it about the process that you learned why the steep price tag? Always wondered about that. :Plymouth: Just that it took me 11 whips to get even to this point of skill, and there's still issues with it that need to improve. I keep thinking...

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Sheesh. This forum does seem to be dead.

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I just picked me up a pair of Thursday boots brown Diplomats. Pretty happy with them so far.

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I just finished a 10' Last Crusade like whip. My next purchase will be the leather for a KOTCS 10'. Think I'll get a whiskey and a brandy hide, do the innards with brandy, the overlay in whiskey, and then the knots in brandy.

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Todd's are great for the price.

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Incidentally, this represents the culmination of a 4 year dream of sorts. Not, perhaps, perfectly...but... Over 4 years ago a buddy of mine bought a Todd's Costumes 10' whip. We gleefully spent hours trying to crack it with no instruction or even bothering to google how or the like...and we did get ...

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10' Natural Roo in the Jones' style. I was originally planning for a Raiders, but the handle ended up too thick for that, so I placed the knot for a shorter handle in more of a Last Crusade style.

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Just needed to know; how thin is the handle to the KotCS whip(in centimeters preferably)? And what plait is the handle to the whip is I'm making either a 12 plait or 16 plait? I believe the KOTCS handles are 7/8 inch (you'll have to do the math to centimeters yourself) and 12 plait. See here: http:...

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chenricy wrote:I totally feel like my 10 footer can knock a gun out of someone's hand; just hope I never have to find out if I'm right.

Of course, by the time the throw finished rolling out to arrive at the gun hand you'll have been shot 6 times.

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Interesting to read all the views here. I, personally, find it more fun to crack a 10 footer. It is harder, for sure, but I enjoy the longer throws, louder cracks, and the overall challenge. Of course, cracking an 8 footer is very nice too. If I could only choose one I'd go with 10. But really, I wa...

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Can we imagine Indy has several bullwhips at home - almost certainly. He has several different revolvers and pistols, so why not? Are they all identical? Who knows... Right on, it's safe to presume that he has multiples of most if not all of his gear. The original point of the thread was that we ne...

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After putting it on again, decided it was fitted enough to exchange it for an X-Large and give that a try. May drown me...but might work out. Will see. Should get it in a few days more. Have pics of the Large but haven't gotten around to 'em yet. I will though. I'll take pics of the X-Large too.

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Well, the jacket, as I had worried, is like 3" too short in the sleeves.

Bah. It's not like I'm a giant. I'm only 6'2". Seriously ridiculous though. Oh well. It's going back though, unfortunately. Otherwise I love it.

What pics would you like specifically?

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I just ordered one. I'll post my thoughts when I get it. I'm a bit worried about fit as I'm tallish and thinnish. I got the large, but am worried about sleeve length. We'll see.

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Where are you getting your hides now? I'm curious because I know tandy hasn't had natural tan leather for a while, unless you got ahold of a special that was unique to that individual store. All my hides thusfar have been from Tandy, because they're cheap there. But my local store is practically cl...

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I actually set it up ( as do many ) so that the plaiting goes to the end of the previous bolster ( except on the overlay ) then the leftover strands from the belly act as the core for the next layer, along with whatever bolster went over that. It works well, but again if that's working well for you...

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That's interesting specs. I've not seen anybody intentionally have a bolster run the full length. Oh you didn't say how long the second belly was plaited to. Like I mentioned before, the taper has definitely improved over the last one, so whatever is working for you... If you could get an overhead ...

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No such thing as too stiff. The tighter you can get it the better. It may take longer to break in but it'll have life in it. Taper definitely looks better on this one then the last It may not be that the seams were worse this time, it may be that you just didn't have enough experience to notice it....

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Nice! Is that a dry bash, or did you use steam or cool water? My Fed IV is in the mail now :) Dry bash. Just put it on, turned it, karate chopped the middle lightly with is still on my head, then pulled it off and pinched the front pretty good. It's a bit different now...uh...taking a pic.... http:...

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Just got my Fed IV. Here's 5 min after getting it and my first bash:

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Finished my third whip: http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z236/cdnielson/Bullwhip%20Making/IMG_6765.jpg Pretty happy with it. It's super stiff (probably too stiff, actually) and has a good taper overall. I had some issues with the braiding twisting this time, which was frustrating because I've neve...

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As Riku said but I would also add, have you taken out the stretchy and weak bits out of your hide? Because if they are still in there, it's unlikely that they would pass the stretch test... To wit, I refer you back to my diagram... These were outer plait strands from more into the center of the hid...

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Arrrggghhh! Okay, so I just gave into the fact that I'll have to waste some leather *sigh*. So I'm cutting my strands bigger to then stretch them out and then cut them to the proper size. But I'm breaking strands when stretching them all the time!! And it's always on the thicker strands. Seems like ...

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Watched through both parts. Very cool. Anxiously waiting for the next part.

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My plaiting tip is 6.3mm, which I did not expect because I had it with 8 strands. My fall starts at around 7x5mm. Tapers to 5x5. Guess I could have tapered it more.

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Thanks Franco.

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So here's a 9 part 8 bight single pass. It's not super neat, but this might make a pretty cool transition knot all in all.

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riku1914 wrote:Something else that came to mind is you may need to make the eye of the fall longer. Not so much that the eye comes out of the hitch of course but that may have been the problem.

I bet that's it. The eye barely fit around the strands now that I think about it! Thanks.

folkprophet

Drop strands less often next time because the last 2-3 ft. of your whip has little no taper. Also, it looks likes you might not have pulled the strands before tying your fall hitch ( or didn't pull them tight enough ) because there seems to be a sudden bump in the last set of strands before the fal...

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drewtheman wrote:Wow nice job!

Thanks! If you look closely at it under good lighting, there's some definate problems. But it's an overall improvment from my first whip. So, next whip...even better!

Thank you.

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Here it is shellacked and finished.

I did pull on the fall super-hard. It won't pull through any further. Maybe I cut the fall loop badly.

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Crackin' it for the first time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmZRKb7G_QY&feature=youtu.be" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; My wife keeps telling me not to wear shorts to crack whips. I, of course, have ignored this advice. Lesson learned the hard way. Feel free to laugh...

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Some stats on it, btw:

8 footer, 16 plait, whiskey with black knots and wriststrap. Ends in an 8 plait. Latigo fall.

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Needs a wee bit o' tweaking and hasn't been shellacked yet. But here it be. It was a whiskey leather I had, but not enough left over to do the knots, so I went black, and because I'd learned the 7 part 6 bight knot recently, I did my best to KOTCS it up. http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z236/cdnie...

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Well yes and no. If the strands weren't stretched and straightened out first, then yes, a strand that curls around in the same direction as the plaiting would make sense. But since we generally cut strands as sets from a keeper, this is not possible, as half would be in the wrong direction anyways....

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Just ordered a Fed IV! I have now increased my nerdom by 25%! I'm quite excited.

folkprophet

So it strikes me that the overal direction that your strand curls (particularly where the turn gets tighter) would plait better (tighter) if it wrapped in the correct direction around the whip. Accordingly, half the strands should curl one direction and the other the other. What I can't figure out i...

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Here I test crack the whip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv8i8j-N ... e=youtu.be" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Don't laugh at my poor technique please.

folkprophet

Folkprophet, Your knots are great for starting out! There are some great knot books out there that have all sorts of different styles. Look into Tom Hall's books. I just posted some pictures on my blog ( http://bullwhips.org ) of a display of knots at a fair that I was performing at. One of the thi...

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Zuiun wrote:So how does it crack? Have you given it a good workout yet?

It will not be my whip, so I have not cracked it yet. Will test crack it a few and video it.

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I think my favorite part of whip making is the knots. For some reason it's just a kick to tie them. I want to (eventually) come up with a signature knot for myself. In order to do that, I figure I needed to really understand them, and thought learning more would be helpful. So I dug into the theory ...

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Marhala wrote:
riku1914 wrote:A good thing to "roll" a wrist loop is the back side a hook ( the side facing away from you when plaiting from one ). It works perfectly for me, and Aldo is the one that first brought it to my attention.

I used our rolling pin.

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Here's one effort at a better pic. I can do better though.

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Folkprophet, I've been quietly following this thread with interest, but have to chime in now. I started planning a whip project last fall, but never got started because it seemed to daunting, but after watching you so successfully attack and solve your problems I've been inspired to give it another...

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COMPLETE! Well, except I need to trim the top of the fall http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z236/cdnielson/Bullwhip%20Making/IMG_6714.jpg edit: Man, that's a poor picture. My camera's got issues. I need to set up some lighting and try and get a better picture. edit 2: I do wish I'd made the heel kn...

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Neat! Those knot look rather Australian to my eye, but well done! Yes, you can get shellac from the store, but two things: 1-get some thinner just in case, 2-always test it on a scrap piece of leather first. Also, never put thick coats of it, always thin ones. A coat that is too thick or not dilute...

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Canuck Digger wrote:If it makes you feel any better I think I did the same thing my first time...

Or were you referring to the strap braiding.

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