Club Obi Wan

jerryrwm

That's how I do it... hasn't failed me more than 5 times in probably a little over a year now. Tighten it up before cracking, and secure it with a good (but not soft and not super-powered) Circus Crack or two before getting too serious. (Admin - Will resize if neccesary.) In Christ, Shane Shane, gl...

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A scalpel with a #11 blade works great for cutting and skiving. You can buy the blades for around $12.00/box of 100. I usually hit them a couple licks on the buffing whell to get them really sharp, and then as needed depending on how much I've been cutting. After a ferw times, throw them away and ge...

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Use a double boiler set-up. I use a large pot with a couple inches of water and put in a 3 lb coffee can into the pot. Bring the outside water to a boil and you reduce the boil over point of the water in the coffee can. It will simmer more than boil. Plus the clean up is a lot easier. I use the same...

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IndyDoc wrote:Wow! Cool deal you got there.

Depends on who you are talking about. Adam got the deal, and George got an excellent whip. Good on ya Adam.

jerryrwm

If you bought a Buckheimer in reasonable condition for $40.00 you made one heck of a buy!! Buckheimer has been out of business making whips for many years. They are fast beoming collector's items. I sold two worn Buckheimers a couple of years ago and got good money for them but shouldn't have sold t...

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As to the S&M issue, I think it's partially Morgan's old school value system and partially a safety concern. S&M whips are typically those fruity little "cat o' nine tails" made from craft store leather. Anyone that actually WANTS to be hit by a BULLWHIP, no matter how much they l...

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The question is why would you want to do that? If distressing is the goal take it out and use it. Best way to get them worked in with that well used look.

Jerry R

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OK. Need to chime in here. There were other whips besides the silver-banded target whip of Alex's that were used in "The Mask of Zorro." These were Indiana Jones-type whips, 12 plait, 8" handle, and all. Supplied by David Morgan in fact, (though Joseph Strain can take credit for a fe...

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The basic cattleman's crack I was taught years ago by some old timer that lived near us. It was on an old swivel handled whip that was old when I saw it nearly 40 yrs ago. When I recently, (about 8 years ago)seriously got involved with whips I read and watched as many movies and videos as I could ge...

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The price someone asks for a particular item is their business and they have their reasons. Many people get an appraisal from professional dealers. Others get appraisals from private collectors. The current value of anything is in the heart and mind of the owner/seller, based on their attachment to ...

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Hmmm..... I wonder what everyone thought a good price would've been. Someone care to name a 'reasonable price' that they thought the whip would go for? When you look at the prices paid by collectors for other memorabilia, and some of it really stupid such as a two page, hand written love letter from...

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Shane, Your whip is going through a natural aging process brought about by using it. The shellac will wear, crack, crinkle, etc and come off with use. But the whip will begon performing better. Not because the shellac came off but because you've used the whip and it is beginning to break in. The mor...

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Here it is:

http://whip.know-where.com/whip/

Jerry

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Have to agree with Robert. The "Coachman's Crack" is not for the faint of heart. Because you are allowing the thong to travel back past your arm, body, head, and then reversing the whole process so that the whip cracks behind you, there are several things that can and do go wrong. Tangles ...

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Indiana folks might try this link and see if any of these folks are still around. http://whip.know-where.com/whip/ I know Axel Wirght has moved to Alabama, but not sure about any of the others. Bink, you can always tell if you are cracking a whip correctly with two indicators. 1. It makes a loud rep...

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Jim,

I seem to remember something about something similar. Refresh my memory if you would please.

Jerry

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Whipmakers; Is it possible to make a cow-roo hybrid whip? Could you be a bit more specific? Many whipmakers use cowhide for the rolled core and bolsters, and some may even plait a belly using cowhide. And then the final belly and overlay of roo. Or did you have something else in mind for hybrid whi...

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Well, my friend, sometimes, pre-production costs are not completely calculated in an effort to get the prototype into the marketplace, and therefore they are basically sold at cost. Then as the production starts and materials and labor are actually calculated it becomes evident that the initial pric...

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Man, that price went up quicker than oil prices!!! :lol: Just kidding. The whip was in the initial research and production stages, and was sent to market research. During that time production costs such as materials, labor, overhead and profit margins were analyized. And even at the current price, ...

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Well, they may have received some rain, or even a lot of rain, but that doesn't make the drought over. It will take several years of regular average rainfall to overcome the effects of the drought. It will take a while for the 'roo population to bounce back to healthy status. Many are diseased and m...

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Well, the 9' Indy whip at the first of this thread now has a new home at "My House Texas" Adam and I did a little horse tradin' or whip tradin to be more accurate. He won the 9' 16 plait target bullwhip I had on Ebay, and I had seen this whip in Dallas at the WE-V. So I contacted Adam and ...

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81, You'll find that end of the fall and cracker the next time you mow. The rest of the time those little rascals are extremely good at hiding in the grass! Measure your fall and you'll know what leaves when it happens again, and it will at some point or another. It will also let you know what lengt...

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Or... you could make your own. The poly twine is available at almost any horse stables. They would probably give you enough to last a lifetime just to haul the stuff off. making crackers is not at all difficult, and you can make up a dozen in about 10 minutes. Will look for a link that shows how the...

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Gotta agree with you Paul. Joe is head and shoulders above the pack. There are some benchmarks that keep me trying to improve with each and every whip I make. And whipmakers like Joe Strain, Chris Barr, Mike Murphy, Peter Jack, Dennis Gardener and several others keep me striving to make the best I c...

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Agree Zohar. If that is a new whip, that rascal has enough plaiting soap and conditioner in it to last a long time. You might need to give it a light coat after 6 to 8 mos depending on how much you use it. The conditioer is used to replace the oils that dry out with time and use, it is not to keep t...

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haven't had an opportunity to watch the Paul Stenhouse vid, but have heard good reports about it. Also check out Alex Green's vids Bullwhip I and II available from Western Stage Prod. Also Mike Murphey's Fundamental Whip Cracking for those that want to do more than just the basic swing it over your ...

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ike, Three things to remember on that coachman's - 1. You have to let the whip point continue underneath and past your hand before you try the crack. 2. Keep your elbow high and the forearm and wrist nearly level pointing back. 3. Then the wrist is pushed nearly straight up, causing the whip to loop...

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Hey Jerry, That practice of going without a shirt will definately teach you to be constantly aware of where the whip tip is. It teahes you that when the whip is out of position at the start of a crack it is going to produce a different result than what you were expecting. If any of you have watched ...

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That's it. It makes a nice compact knot that doesn't eat into the fall as much. Tie it on and do a couple slow easy cracks to set the cracker and you're good to go. This is a good knot for all you heavy-handed, strong arm crackers.

Thanks Jerry,

Jerry

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Redbeard, Two things might be contributing to the demise of your fall. One you alluded to is the use of force. The whip will rack with less force but maybe not as loud. Also it may be the way you are tying on the cracker. It you are sliding the cracker onto the fall and then tying a knot, the cracke...

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Adam, and Indy Gear fans wherever you may be. Took the Indy OSS whip to the Whip Enthusiasts V competitions this past weekend. There were about 35 - 40 whipcrackers and 5 or 6 whipmakers in attendance, and most of them had a go at the whip. Comments were very positive. Everyone that looked at it was...

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On the whipmaking thread... A whipmaker sure isn't getting rich by any stretch of the imagination. With the cost of 'roo at or around $75.00 an up per hide and that's a medium sized hide 7-8 sq ft. plus shipping. Then as Paul said, the hides are definately not the top quality hides available a few y...

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The eternal gratitude of everyone here that didn't know the colors. <chuckle>

Paul, you coming down to Dallas?

Jerry

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Bink, It would crack. But on little short whips like that there are not two bellies and bolsters. 30" signal whips are around, some that I've seen are 32 plait. They usually have one belly and a bolster. I made a 30" stockwhip for my Dad as a hatband a couple years ago. It had a core and a...

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binkmeisterRick wrote:Can I get a 2' 58 plait whip? JUST KIDDING!!!

bink

Yes you can. All you gotta do is ask. Of course it would be more symetrical to make it 56 plait or 60. Multiples of four work the best.

<chuckle>

Jerry.

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Just a reminder - Only one more week for the WE annual gathering in Dallas. There will be lots of whip crackers, whip makers, and just whip enthusiasts in general descending on the Dallas area Oct 1, 2, and 3. Competitions galore. Accuracy, speed and accuracy, and prescision contests for the targeti...

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Alan,

Thanks for the kind words. Glad everything got worked out at last.

Enjoy the whip. It was a pleasure to work with you on this little project.

I remaon,

Jerry R
whipmaker

jerryrwm

Most of these animals wouldnt think twice about killing you...and then possibly eating you. Except they dont do it for sport. Must be some of those "Live Texas Killer Bulls in Blanco County, Texas" As for animals killing for sport, watch the movie "The Ghost and The Darkness" It...

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Kris, I am sure most would agree that a 6', 7', or 8' are the standard to learn on. Big enough to do most of the cracks that are considered basics, you can do target cutting and most anything with this size whip. You can expect to pay somewhere around $15.00 - $20.00 per plaited foot for a good nylo...

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Vegitarian?? You're not gonna eat the whip are you?? Just kidding. Nylon whips are excellent whips is you get them from someone who has made a number of them. They will perform very well, last a long time and look good also. Check out whips by Tim Bass, Rhett Kelley, Steve Koliski, or Greg DeSayre. ...

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Define Hard...

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Good on ya! Very clean looking whip. Nice straight seams.

Jerry R

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Jace, Most use a product such as Bullseye Shellac, and you can get it in clear or amber. The amber will be darker when dried. Dilute the shellac about 50/50 with denatured alcohol. Mix well, and then apply with a soft lint-free cloth. Put it on a thin coat, let it dry completely, and then roll the w...

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hehe...no...not just because it hangs better. the cars is a good analogy. People like certain cars better, just because. I think the over all construction of Mr. Morgan's whip is better and you need the two whips sitting together to see why. Sorry I can't extrapolate more. Dakota, I'm not going to ...

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Shane, I think you can relax a little bit there buddy. Your whip is not ruined, and it is probably not going to ever show the effects of "accidentally being dragged through the dirt." While it is an expensive investment, it was made to be used and used often. For the dirt to really effect ...

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Well done my friend. That is craftsmanship at it's finest.

Jerry R

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...because it felt alittle loose in the plaiting. However, after using it for six months along with the strain i must say that the morgan, though seemingly loose plaiting, is the superior whip. It also hangs in a similar fashion to indy's whip. Just for further clarification could you expound on th...

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It's actually going to be about the same. Since you are actually spiralling the strands around the thong at an approximate 45 deg angle the finished length is going to be necessarily shorter. So, 1.5 times the desired finish length plus a couple inches extra. I would rather cut off 4" of extra ...

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Two years ago??? Well I guess they haven't cleaned up their act yet.

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Upon closer look at the fall attachment, it looks as if it is not a replacable fall. It looks like the core extends the full length to the cracker, and the overlay thong was ended and tied off and even has a couple of stitches through it. This method would cut down on the drag by being a bit more ae...

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