Very Nice whip! this is one of the whips someone who will remain nameless was supposed to be making for me LOL

I was told also that my whip would ship February

Michaelson they do NOT order any protection at all for any length if time on made to order products. Only tangible goods that you can hold in your hand at that moment when ordering. Putting it simply your paying on good faith and they don't cover good faith...

Thanks guys. The problem we face is that time has passed. I doubt the bank covers something that technically doesn't exist yet

its tough because all I can do is ask for a refund. Because unfortunately we live in the states and he's in the UK. and there really isnt much that can be done about it

I called paypal today and they don't cover made to order goods period (as was told to me from the accounts department). SO if we get refunds they will have to come from graeme directly. And as far as the whips are concerned, I ordered mine in October of 2010. You guys ordered yours way before me, i...

Ok so did a little investigating. and i found on graemes myspace that he lives in walsall in west midlands england. and i found 6 numbers for a G. Roberts in that community and I will try them tommorow. But Daren or kwad I can email you the list of the numbers at your request.

Kwad don't worry about it there is no way you could have known it would go this far. And daren is right, we should band together. I'm currently looking at UK registries to find a telephone number linked with Graeme Roberts. When I find one that seems valid I will Call and of course give the number v...

what i was told was that the investigation at this point is between paypal and midland whips. They know what we know, and as midland is currently a paypal verified member they are taking it seriously. But there is no way for us to know the outcome of the investigation... only when graeme calls and e...

their 45 day thing does not apply to made to order goods as was explained to me by the paypal accounts rep. BEST CASE SCENERIO; he has a job monday through friday. and he makes one whip a weekend if that. and because of life he got so swamped that he is in way over his head. And he isnt responding t...

They are investigating him as of today, I filed the highest thing you could which is a claim. they said fraud department will conduct an investigation.

I feel like our best bet in light of the fact that paypal told me im S.O.L. is to find some way to TALK to Graeme, by finding a number that works.

I called paypal today and they don't cover made to order goods period (as was told to me from the accounts department). SO if we get refunds they will have to come from graeme directly. And as far as the whips are concerned, I ordered mine in October of 2010. You guys ordered yours way before me, it...

On graemes website he states (under about him) that he doesn't make whips full time. Does that mean he can only do it on weekends? And is so backed up that he is catching up only on nights and weekends? Or does he in fact say that he does it full time now?

I'm concerned as well knowing I may not get my whips in Mid Feb. But I do hope the guy is ok. Do you think that maybe since he's backed up he's just too swamped to do anything besides work in his shop?