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Marhala

Well Misa, it looks great to me! I still remember when you posted your first whip.

The only thing I'd object to is the fall hitch. But those are a bit difficult to make right, and require some practice.

Keep working on them, you're doing great!

Thanks for sharing,

Aldo.

Marhala

I've just visited your site, Jeremy. I think you did a great job! I really like the way it came up. I also like the way you organized it, and that you offer your very own tapered crackers!

Keep up the good work!

Aldo.

Marhala

Nick's whips are very Morgan-esque. I have always envied how he achieved that.

Congratulations on your whip, Nick. Sorry you're no longer making them.

Aldo.

Marhala

I concur with Jeremy. You couldn't have explained it better, Franco. That whip is gorgeous, no doubt. But as Franco put it, for me, it's like having a tough Jeep from WWII (Morgan), and Joe's whip is more like a Jeep Wrangler... who knows? Did I make my point? :P The best part, is you have many whip...

Marhala

Those two whips are great, Basil! Joe is one of the best whipmakers in the USA. I noticed the whip in the first pic has a straight section beyond the transition knot. Is it stiffer at that point? It seems to bend beyond 2-3 inches from the handle.

Enjoy them!

Aldo.

Marhala

I'm glad at the way you've improved at whipmaking, Jeremy. I liked the way you made the transition from herringbone to 4-seam. It makes the whip look like David Morgan's Performer's Bullwhip which he offered until some years ago. Hey, is that tan roo hide with the 75dm2 mark from Packer? All the bes...

Marhala

I understand what you mean Gunslinger. Over here, in Mexico, they used to sell really stiff rawhide whips. When I was a child, as they were cheap whips with no taper as JrzJoe's whips, what I did was to add a cracker to the leather fall, and soak them in Armor All to make them supple. As rawhide is ...

Marhala

Hi Misa. How does it crack? I've always wondered how would a snakewhip with no lead shot bag would work. I've never made one, and only own two. They are heavy, clumsy but do the job.

Aldo.

Marhala

Even though I've started to notice the differences along the years in David's work, I'm still amazed that someone like Dan can take into account many, many other tiny details, which may seem superfluous even to those of us who are more involved into whipmaking.

My warmest rewards to Dan!

Aldo.

Marhala

Paul, thanks for posting here on the whips you've recently made!

I love the knots on the Mirror Mirror bullwhip.

Aldo.

Marhala

Anyone know the year he personally stopped making them? Thanks :whip: I remember they changed the "handcrafted by David Morgan" to "handcrafted at David Morgan" around 2008. Perhaps some weeks before the premiere of KOTCS. Perhaps Bernardo could give us more accurate information...

Marhala

riku1914 wrote:A good thing to "roll" a wrist loop is the back side a hook ( the side facing away from you when plaiting from one ). It works perfectly for me, and Aldo is the one that first brought it to my attention.

Marhala

Folkprophet, you did a great job figuring out the 6-stran flat braid! Even though the shape of the TH knot isn't exactly "Indy" it seems very comfortable for the hand. As Franco wrote, it resembles the Australian practice of shaping knots. These are more discreet than the bulky knots found...

Marhala

Luke, thanks for posting James' reply on the use of plaiting soap. Jeremy, James... perhaps I got it wrong and English kip has never been oiled. Or perhaps I messed it up with another tannage. But thanks for your testimony on the dryness of the hides and the need for nourishing them before working w...

Marhala

Wow! They all look gorgeous for their age!

Aldo.

Marhala

I understand what you say, Jeremy. Being flat, it can't cut as easily as a single thread. Pressure distributes along the surface. The good side of using one thread is that it sinks deeper into the leather, binds tighter (perhaps?), and sits flatter after rolling it. Doesn't David use thread instead ...

Marhala

I used to bind over bolsters almost exclusively, then I tried Franco's suggestion about not doing it and the whip turned out smoother, easier to plait over, and better working, so I never went back. Also, when I say easier to plait over, I don't just mean the smoothness of the plait, I also didn't ...

Marhala

As far as I know, English kip is oiled too, so I don't know what kind of material James used. Basing myself on what Jeremy wrote, is that drum stuffed leather (already oiled before being worked into a whip), is given an additional dressing with plaiting soap. This perhaps helps it retain its moistur...

Marhala

.... And don't overthink about cutting. Let's get real: your first roo whip won't be the best, although it is good you try to do as much as you can to get it the best made possible. Cut wider and longer, as you can resize, as Louie says.... I refuse to acknowledge reality! Ha ha. I wrote that, beca...

Marhala

2-2.5 seems like quite a lot. I've had some really stretchy hides but I've never had to go 2 times as much... Also, what he said about stretching it beforehand can be a good habit. If and when I do that, I don't stretch it a lot, I just run my hands along the side of the hide, pulling every couple ...

Marhala

I think one other thing you can do is, try to stretch the leather before cutting it to see which part of the edges stretches the most. Franco has already shown you which parts stretch the most in your diagram. David Morgan has a very nice diagram showing those areas too. I'd go with Jeremy about try...

Marhala

One small observation: the fall on your whip seems thicker than the point of the braiding. I would think that makes the whip harder to crack. Remember that faux-leather is synthetic and is lighter than leather. You may even feel a "jerk" at the end of the crack. Try to match the base of th...

Marhala

Love the color! Very Zorro-esque!

Aldo.

Marhala

Nice! Congratulations, Jeremy.

I really like the ferrule on the second one and the knots that keep it in place.

Aldo.

Marhala

Nice color and it is in great shape!

Congratulations on the purchase.

Aldo.

Marhala

Nice contrast on the picture. And the whip seems to have been exercised well too.

ATB,

Aldo.

Marhala

Wow, that's interesting. The fall tapers. Wonder how it was made. It seems to me some sort of synthetic cord.

I'm glad I didn't post before reading the first comments. My first impression was that it is a Morgan too, but I didn't want to venture.

Good purchase in any case!

Aldo.

Marhala

I like the way the thong looks heavier than others. Others seem to taper faster and ending in slightly thinner points.

Aldo.

Marhala

Nice! Looks very similar to the one on the last pic.

Aldo.

Marhala

Tomek, thanks for sharing the article with us. Chris never ceases to amaze me and leave me breathless with his dedication and quality! Didn't those stockwhips with the 3D-pattern appear in the previous issue of the APWA journal (a package with the latest issue arrived to my house just, yesterday... ...

Marhala

Congratulations, Daren. It is good that something which started out as casual, has received the deserved attention, just because you all are passionate of what you do!

Aldo.

Marhala

Sorry! I reread your post, and noticed the "heavy, heavy, heavy" phrase.

Oh, well...

Aldo.

Marhala

Nice, tough bullwhips, my friend! I like the texture formed by the thicker cowhide. Seems to give a better grip. I see they needed heavy skiving on your part. Are they heavy? From the video, they seem so. But in any case, they are very responsive and crack with ease! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :cla...

Marhala

Maybe they could do a new mythbusters indiana jones episode. Swinging from a whip, is in fact, now plausible :lol: I think they'd still have to go with "busted," because the myth is about a standard whip. Your whip would fall into their "what do we have to do to make the myth work&qu...

Marhala

Jeremy, I just think it's great you came up with that idea. It is always good to try new things out, and I'm glad you tackled one of the greatest reasons, perhaps for most of us around here, why we secretly got into whipcracking and whipmaking... SWINGING FROM A WHIP! I used to swing from a four-pla...

Marhala

That's awesome, Sylvia! I'm glad you personally gave a try to making that whip. Will definitely be looking forward for Adam's video. And you're right, involving people in the process of making a whip, even as simple as this one may be, will help them understand better all the work involved in making...

Marhala

Mmmmmm... :-k I'm not expert on screen used whips, but that one has a rather thick and short handle than the ones Morgan used to make back in the day. It seems to me a more recent Morgan. And, either the fall was replaced, or again, the whip is more recent. A whitehide fall tends to become yellowish...

Marhala

That's a very interesting way of getting a pretty well made whip with little effort, Adam. I think people could learn easily how the shape and taper of a whip are achieved when using what you recommend. I had seen a similar bullwhip once here in Mexico, about 4 years ago, and the construction was ve...

Marhala

I like the long thing point. Bet it is a nice, fast whip.

Aldo.

Marhala

Nice!

Aldo.

Marhala

My fellow French whipmaker... :D It is always nice to see your work! I love the proportions on those white bullwhips. Slender, and the taper for such a short pair of whips looks great. I like the long falls, which help extend the taper too. And I really like what other materials have to offer to whi...

Marhala

Use a damp rag, rub it into some soap (regular soap from the bathroom sink), make some lather and use it to rub the thong along the whip. When all the dirt has come off, use another damp rag (no soap), and eliminate any soap residue. Then use a dry rag to remove moisture as much as possible. If the ...

Marhala

I like the thicker, straight handle. It makes it look shorter and heavier. I also like the way the thong tapers. It seems to me the taper is slower than in a regular American bullwhip, but it ends in a nice fine point. This helps appreciate the shape of the thong along its length better. It reminds ...

Marhala

Nick, your whips have a very distinct taper, which I love. They seem to be bulkier at the butt and gracefully taper to the point.

Keep up the good work.

Aldo.

Marhala

Jeremy, the whip looks wonderful! Congratulations, my friend. The shape of the thong looks nice. And I love the half plait handle. Its proportions make it look so beautiful.

Aldo.

Marhala

I ignore how long the twisted part of the cracker and how long the tassel is in your whip, but I've found that when it comes to nylon crackers, a good standard length is 6" for the twisted part, and 2" for the tassel. That way, the frequency of the formation of knots is considerably reduce...

Marhala

They look awesome, Darren. Congrats on your new whips.

Aldo.

Marhala

When I was a very young lad, I saved up alot of odd job monies and ordered a whip from that company.....and months later I recieved a letter that they had gone bankrupt...and my money was gone! Unfortunately, that still happens nowadays. Pyramidblaster, I still have my first bullwhip, albeit undone...

Marhala

For good or for bad, every now and then damaged whips turn up that are documented and give us a glimpse of what’s inside them and how they are made. But one of the guys in another whip group i'm in recently ran his Joe Strain bullwhip through an x-ray machine. The results were kind of neat. :TOH: D...

Marhala

Looks great! I like the proportions between handle and knob.

You'll certainly enjoy it.

Aldo.

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