Club Obi Wan

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These 2 pics from above show it best: http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k171/SuinBruin/Gibson%20and%20Barnes/Expo1.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k171/SuinBruin/Gibson%20and%20Barnes/ExpoThreeQuarters.jpg Indy's jacket in Raiders does the same so that wouldn't bother me. http://www.theraider...

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One thing about the jacket that does bother me - and it might be the case with just the Expo, or all of the Indys', is the position of the shoulder seam. If looked at from the front, the shoulders slope well over where a proper jacket's should end, so that the seam between the shoulder and sleeve is...

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Hi that-dog. The pic with the brown goat expo looks too big on the wearer, so that might be why the sleeves are also just too large and drape like curtains. The first linked pic you used is me, and I was leaning forward - not standing up straight so the jacket was not going to look right. I just put...

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That smooth lamb is beautiful....yum.....I have the goat which I also love, but I imagine the goat is significantly heavier than the lambskin.

I've already got 3 leather jackets, hey, what's a fourth?

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photo of my expedition pf PF!!!! Get it off that plastic hangar!!!! A leather jacket is probably best stored flat, but if you really want to keep it hung, use a VERY wide wooden or cushioned shoulder hanger. Prolonged hanging on a thin hangar like what is in the picture will leave the shoulders wit...

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St. Dumas wrote:Great avatar of Spanky, Rundquist. I was a huge fan of Little Rascals growing up. Pity they never seem to be rereleased on DVD.

SD

It will probably be released the day after the 6 million dollar man comes out in another 50 years...

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Mark Moye (Aero's US rep) was selling a 44R G&B on his ebay store recently, which is where I grabbed these pics. I have a 44T, and the measurements to his are quite close: http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll104/bobjones_aero/357219699.jpg http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll104/bobjones_aero/...

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I have only bought from G&B in the past, but have spoken with Peter before and he is a class act, and I believe I can vouch for his character as a quality person.

I am sure that if you called him, he would do the right thing by you, and get this issue resolved asap.

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Indiana Holt wrote:That looks to be goatskin.

Nice looking jacket. congrats.

some advice, Pecard the jacket right away. I see it is screaming for some leather lotion. Just check out that collar.

That other thread listed several different picards to use, which one would make the most sense for a goatskin Expo?

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The Stockman is EIGHT POUNDS!!! Yeah, the weight on the postage meter stamp said 4.5 kilos. As I already wrote, I find the G&B too heavy for most days. The weight is simply annoying to me and uncomfortable. Just personal preference. I find this odd as the G&B seems like a feather, and not j...

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Are you in a position to actually weight those Aeros rather than estimate? Any jacket weighing 6 pounds I could not wear. I find the G&B goat verging on the too heavy side at 1.6 kilos. I have a long belted jacket here from a local firm which weights 4.2 kilos. It is stupidly heavy and retards ...

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i for one would like to see a 'latest and greatest' expo so........ ;0 no, i'm not trying to be difficult :lol: .........i was actually entertaining the thought of getting one regardless of how 'close nuff' SA it is for my taste. i'm intrigued at this offering's heritage and the bulletproof constru...

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Unlke my fellow NYer AdaminNYC, I have not had the benefit of physically handling in person a Wested, but have had the experience of handling, oh, about 10,000 leather jackets over the past few years, and while I wouldn't put my life on it, I have come across VERY few leather jackets, even from some...

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Zippers on the wrong side too. It supposed to be European style, the pull goes on the left under the flap. US Wings makes them that way, too. The pattern does look a bit too close for legal comfort, but I doubt Cabelas is aware of what the manufacturer did. If we weren't gearheads, we wouldn't know...

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I just received a G&B Dark seal goat 44 R and a 44 T, and kept the 44 T. The only difference between them is the 44T jacket length is about 1/2" longer and the sleeve is one inch longer. This page has the exact specs: http://www.flightsuits.com/leather_sizes.html You can see on the table al...

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Unfortunately, as Michaelson stated, our promised shipment did not arrive as scheduled. We are as disappointed as our customers and regret to inform you that the new delivery date has been set for the first week in November. We are not the manufacturer of this jacket and must rely on the promised d...

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If anyone's got information pertaining to the lambskin G&B offering, or pictures of the new goat offering, I'd love to hear about/see them. Best Regards, -Jonesing Call them for a sample of the dark and regular seal goat, and the dark seal lamb. The lamb is wonderful, but as said before the goa...

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Guys be advised: novapelle is a beautiful hide, I adore it, but is HEAVY compared to all the other hides. Would you say its alot heavier than the G&B goat? That's the jacket I have, and as such the only frame of reference. I would agree that of the "distressed"-style jackets, the West...

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I have had a goatskin dark seal for one month, and you should read my opinion here: http://www.indygear.com/cow/viewtopic.php?p=483619#483619 IMHO, you can't do better for both SA and quality. Even my mother tried it on last night and was impressed! The feel and smell of the hide is incredible, and ...

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Has anyone else besides Cowboy recieved this jacket yet? I am still waiting for the jacket I ordered, July 7th, and I am beyond irritated by US Wings excuses and explanations. :x I know this hobby requires patience, but I would like to add that this jacket has taken longer to recieve than any other...

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Also check out the G&B goat, it is a tough hide that might be more lightweight than the US Wings.

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For mine, I return to the concept of finding the sweet spot in the market. Personally, I think it must lie somewhere around the G&B Expedition. Why? Because it's been made from the measurements of a real Indy jacket; it's handmade by a small(ish) team of professionals; and the hides G&B sou...

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firstly, the hide is subjective and depends on what kind of collector you are. i for one don't like g&b's hides as they are too perfect and too resilant to be on anything indy....that's my opinion as a collector. As a durability guy, all I can do is shake my head at that one. Maybe my brain is ...

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If Peter, who is copying the ToD jacket, were to make "improvements" on the design, more people than usual would be calling for his head. The consensus seems that we all want a 1:1 copy of the original Temple of Doom jacket, down to the hardware and leather. Why is this example any differ...

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indyrocks wrote:WOW How did He get a Raiders jacket???

Which original could he have gotten a hold of? I thought there were only 3 survivors and all are pretty much locked away...

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Here's another good quality shirt I found from of all places, Urban Outfitters. It is a thick herringbone patter cotton that looks great, I am waiting until it drops in price on sale and then grabbing a few... http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/urban/catalog/productdetail.jsp;jsessionid=6ED6E1EC0C16BF26...

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Just found this "close enough" shirt at Eddie Bauer: http://www.eddiebauer.com/EB/Men/Shirts/index.cat?viewAll=y#ppl=%7Btype%3A%22hide%22%7D It's the "Expedition Solid Color Twill" on the 2nd row down on the left..maybe its supposed to be the wife to the G&B Expedition jacket...

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I have the dark khaki bush shirt and while stone would be a much better Indy color, let me tell you these are GREAT shirts for real world wear. I picked two up on sale for $19 each. If you know how much these go for, you can see what a deal that was. If you are ever in Vermont they sometimes have s...

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Any opinion on their Bush Shirt, stone or dark Khaki??? It's looks to be a very Indyesque, and the price is lower than the Exofficio Air strip shirt which is a great material for here in AZ. I'm leaning moe towards the Dk khaki for an alternative Indy shirt.....The stone seems too white.... I'm thi...

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on a regular G&B jacket. could anybody measure the back length on a 44 Large jacket,from collar base to bottom of jacket? thanx Holt Just as an FYI, the 44T measures 27" from the collar to the bottom of the back panel. The "official" G&B info is that the 44R will be 25 1/2&qu...

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What color is that G&B??? I like that. In fact I wish mine was that color. Thanks. IIRC, from the thread where Rundquist had posted the pics originally, it was the "regular" seal brown. G&B describes the "regular" seal color as milk chocolate, compared to the "dark ...

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Mike wrote:Just be patient. Tony was registered for as he asked me to sign him up. He'll be on shortly once he gets the hang of things.

So does that mean if I personally tutor him on the bizarre characteristics of COW, I might get a free jacket

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Thank you for the great pictures! It just shows me that it can be done. And #### yes I want a buffalo jacket,along with probally everyone else who reads this,but I'm not going to spend another penny till they can assure me the quality that you have shown me is possible. If any one of the collar sta...

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If I knew there was a problem with an item, I would not wear/use it until the issue was resolved. This way it could not be held against me. I could not see a problem; I know I'm new but I asked Blueskyz if the issue could be seen while worn and I think another member said that it could not. So if t...

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Honestly, blueS, and I'm saying this in a respectful way, I believe you're just beating a dead horse. If we were looking at photos of a factory fresh jacket, just received, we'd have something to dissect....but we're looking at photos of a used jacket, and worn over several months. There's no TELLI...

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Ok, I am going to weigh in here and try to help sort things out.. 1) Rundquist special treatment issue : I think you're a great guy, and am wholly indebted to you b/c of the sheer volume of G&B pics and guidance you posted to help me decide which jacket from G&B to order. That being said, it...

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As to an earlier question about goatskin and exposure to water. The Navy chose this hide in its M422A and G1 specifically for its water and salt resistance. -P- Ha, you are reading my mind ;) That was one of the things that got me wondering, that 1-goatskin is supposed to be tough as #### 2-the Nav...

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I’ve got those “soft spots” on one of my goatskin jackets, only it’s on another part of the jacket. So far those spots have worn just fine. I like them to be honest with you. However, I would just be sure to take care of your collar section period. Collars can wear out from friction & sweat. A ...

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I analyzed the collars of all of the leather jackets I have, and believe the confusion might be on my end, where the leather around the collar is simply being stretched out because it needs to fold over. With the Aero FQHH and cowhide jackets I have, there is less stretching and loosening of the hid...

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Stupid question, as I am about to call G&B, could this simply the result of getting the jacket wet in that spot? Will goat get soft and "spongy" after it gets wet? I know that if you get shiny, non-distressed cowhide wet it will congeal a bit, and mostly go back to its former smoothnes...

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The grain I wrote of is only an indicator of the leather underneath. I don’t think the grain itself has anything to do with what you are feeling in the collar. So I agree with you in that respect. One of the reasons I sent back that particular jacket was a soft (thin) patch on one of the sleeves. I...

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BlueSkyz wrote:Now that you've had your jacket a while,what do you think??

See this thread for the latest:

viewtopic.php?t=33634

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They have a one month returns policy. As long as the jacket "looks new" they will replace it. Maybe you should give them a call if you are that concerned? I thought it was six months...just in case I will call to clarify. I just returned one about a month ago, for exchange with a smaller ...

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Hi Blue. Did you measure the collar from the stitched seam to make sure it is a uniform length until the ends? Maybe the place where the collar is folding is not a straight line, so trying to fold it at exactly the same point across the entire collar might even the "wave effect" out. If th...

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I think what you’re seeing is a part of the hide that was stretched and loose on the animal when it was alive (i.e. under the arms and legs). You have to remember that a goat is not a very large animal and it’s difficult to get a hide large enough to make a jacket from. Leather from these areas typ...

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Tollan wrote:They have a one month returns policy. As long as the jacket "looks new" they will replace it. Maybe you should give them a call if you are that concerned?

I thought it was six months...just in case I will call to clarify.

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I think what you’re seeing is a part of the hide that was stretched and loose on the animal when it was alive (i.e. under the arms and legs). You have to remember that a goat is not a very large animal and it’s difficult to get a hide large enough to make a jacket from. Leather from these areas typ...

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Goat will eventually go pretty soft all around. My Wested has and my G&B is on the way. However, I noticed with my Wested goat of 2002 that around the collar rear it's really soft and appears to be breaking down. It almost feels damp. It's as if the leather rubbing up against my neck has broken...

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I haven't worn my G&B goat much as of yet (its still high 80s/low 90s up here in the Northlands) but I have tried to wear around the house as much as I can given the heat, and I noticed something, particularly on the collar. It seems that the hide on the fold of the right-side of the collar wher...

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Anyone's arrive as of yet? Mine is supposed to come in anyday. You really are anxious to recieve this jacket bobjones. If the initial orders just shipped yesterday unless you are just a stones throw from US Wings in Ohio, I can't imagine anyone would have recieved it by know. I live a couple hours ...

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