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indygr

SHORT REVIEW **UPDATED** Now that I have received also the pants from Karolian, here is my short UPDATED review of the pants from vendors which I have details for: - MBA Pants (Raiders Style - Not available anymore) / Owned Color: Screen accurate. Most probably same as the original movie. Material:...

indygr

Thanks for the pics Croft!! They are great and they depict the differences perfectly. It is incredible to see how the colour changes when the pic is shot with the shirt. It makes you think that the colours is the same like the Todds or MBA. I have already ordered a pair and I am really curious to se...

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I've received my trousers. These are my first pair of Indy trousers ever! KDG has been nothing but an amazing vendor. I've purchased my DOD shirt and web belt from him as well. I had no idea that Indy pants would have this sort of weight. :shock: I have had suits tailored before but never something...

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To Indygr, I wear 33 / 34 in pants, and depending on mfg. both fit. Now I admit I have stomach, you can see it in the above pictures. So I have brand new pair of size 34 upstairs, I laid them flat and measured across and I come up with 17’’ So I hope that helps, but if you’re worried buy up one sid...

indygr

Thanks Croft! No worries. Question for Karolian... how much extra material do the trousers have on the waist? In case for example a size 34 needs to be enlarged to a size 35 in the waist? Thanks a lot! There is no too much extra fabric in the seam allowance. I might recommend sizing up to have them...

indygr

Thanks Croft!

No worries.

Question for Karolian... how much extra material do the trousers have on the waist? In case for example a size 34 needs to be enlarged to a size 35 in the waist?

Thanks a lot!

indygr

You’re very welcome. I’d say the only thing that you can add are the rubber material like in Todd’s, helps holding the shirt in, I think that’s what’s there for. But these are definitely the next best thing tonTodds. Keep up the good work my friend. Croft :mrgreen: After seeing these pictures, I ca...

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For all DYIers, I just wanted to share my experience during my last dyeing process trying to replicate the MBA shirt colour using Azuma's Raiders shirts. This process should work with any shirt as long as the original colour of the shirt is removed. Some garments may be dyed with super durable pigme...

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If you were to dye this shirt Khaki, which off-the-shelf RIT dye would you use?: * Tan * Taupe * Sand Stone When I dyed my adventurebuilt shirt, I first used Dylon pre-dye in order to remove the existing one and prepare the shirt for the dyeing process. I then used 1 full tin of Dylon Reindeer Beig...

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Welcome aboard! Based on what I see on my computer, that fabric color is a bit on the light side, could be a good LC look, but the ROLA color is generally considered to be a bit darker. Where are you located? Back in 2012 I bought fabric to have trousers made. I found a site in the US, but I don't ...

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Hi micsteam, I would say that currently the most accurate pants closely to the original fabric, color and design are offered by Magnoli. Not certain about the latest Wested trousers, not sure if they are already in the 3rd generation. Take a look at the picture below. MBA (Raiders) Trousers above, M...

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Green, Following to Dalexs' post, check below the difference in colour absorption of the Wested vs. the Adventurebilt shirt which is 100% cotton. I used exactly the same dosage while redyeing my wested and adventurebilt shirt to match the MBA one. Wested shirt is on top. Observe, how little dye the ...

indygr

Hi Green,

The Wested shirt is a polyester/cotton mix rather than 100pct cotton and it will absorb less colour from the formula.

I would suggest you then to increase or double the dosage of the mix, not reduce it. Using RIT Colour remover before dyeing is a must.

Brgds

indygr

Ok! Here are the results. From top to bottom: Shirts Wested (Custom dyed) MBA Costumes Adventurebilt (Custom dyed) Pants MBA Costumes Magnoli Wested 2nd generation (slightly darker/browner in colour) Wested 1st generation @Canyon: Congratulations to Canyon cause she is the only one who dared take a ...

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Hi to everybody! Here is a nice quiz for all of you in order to train and keep our eyes sharp. :whip: Let's try and identify (from top to bottom 8-[] ) which shirt is which and which pants are which. Items listed in alphabetical order: Shirts: Adventurebilt (Custom dyed) MBA Costumes Wested (Custom ...

indygr

As expected those trousers are awesome! :TOH: Spot-on colour, great fabric and old look design. These are definitely a must-buy item! The only thing which, as I see through the pics, may be out of specs are the belt loops which in my opinion are a bit large. Maybe they were made in these dimensions ...

indygr

Long time, no write, Watching many photos of Magnoli's trousers, I just wanted to add my congrats on Magnoli's new trousers and I have to say that in terms of colour are the closest to the original MBA Raiders trousers as the colour was based on an original MBA Raiders swatch. In terms of design the...

indygr

I am really amazed how do these trousers look! But I have a question for Magnoli. Can the crotch length be customised because it seems to me that it is a bit short and very modern styled?

Thanks,
Indygr

indygr

That is amazingly generous! I am deeply appreciate that! Here's my postal mailing address:

Todd's' Costumes
PO Box 5196
Pine Mountain Club, CA 93222

Consider it done Todd.

I ll send you the swatch this week.

Indygr

indygr

Good points Todd.

In any case however that you need a swatch from a MBA(not NH) Raiders trousers let me know.

I can send it to you by mail.

Regards,
Indygr

indygr

My eye just caught this topic. This is an excellent project by Todd. I am really eager to see the outcome of his efforts. One extra question though. Will the trousers be based on the Raiders colour version or on the LC colour version? Just to point out, IMO and from KT's notes, the original Raiders ...

indygr

NH=Noel Howard

He was one of the costumiers who worked partly for the designing of the Raiders costume and fully in the ToD and LC movies.

Wested indeed had in their possession the original costumes when Noel Howard passed away and they took a lot of notes about the patterns.

Indygr

indygr

Yes, they indeed look much better than before! The only thing you can do right now to make them look more indy-ish, is to remove the creases with an iron. From the pics I can judge that you have a 36 or a 38 waist...I understand your taper concerns...For a 36 waist pants the ankle area should be muc...

indygr

That's almost remaking the whole pant. Be careful, taking out extra material underneath the crotch can just result in a lower crotch. True! An other way is to take out excess material from the external part of the trousers. I am not an expert in sewing, so your tailor should have the last word on t...

indygr

Yes, they taper a bit.

I would advise you to flat iron them first and then take them to a tailor and enlarge the area from the knees to the ankles and "take out" extra material below the waist underneath the crotch in order to achieve a straighter cut.

Indygr

indygr

The "original" khaki, being original=as closer to the dying intentions of the first British soldier that dyed his white shirt in India, would have been a very light shade of green with a touch of brown dyed with green tea leaves... or just take your white shirt, wet it with water and start...

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Hi RC, Designing new trousers and shirts using the original NH patterns was only an idea that Wested had and it would have been a future project. That's why I still hope that in the near future they will offer new shirts and trousers. However, the issue here is the cost....more tailored and closer t...

indygr

Mine are 34.

Hmm...difficult to understand.

Indygr

indygr

Can it be the case that Bazzano's trousers as Chewbacca's as well as mine are of the old stock which there was a big quantity produced on that size instead the correct ones are from a new batch of trousers but a different size, therefore new?? Bazzano, what size are your trousers? Do we know what si...

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Bazzano's concerns are acceptable. A customer has the right to complain about something he considers not correct. In the end, there is the option to send them back if someone is unhappy with them. We have also to consider though that Wested is a Leather Company. Peter always gives the priority to th...

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Thanks for the pics guys! Chewbacca, I ll wait also for your pictures. The reason I asked for pics was that on a previous thread a fellow member posted a pic of his Wested trousers that they were a lot different than these. The pockets, the belt loop placement, and the big pleat were different. Thes...

indygr

Hello to all,

I was wandering what the latest version of Wested trousers look like. I have noticed that are a lot of variations in the final product that don't depend on the time of the acquisition.

Any pics would be very helpful. I might be in a need for a new pair.

Many thanks!
Indygr

indygr

It's time to ask KT!

Kt, do you know about any new Wested designs or there is a flaw in the design of some of the trousers that come out of the tailoring factory?

Thanks
Indygr

indygr

Thanks Kt!

indygr

I would recommend to dye the shirt directly as it is with a VERY little amount of RIT pearl grey, maybe 1/4 of tea spoon. For us in Europe, Dylon Elephant grey is the option.

Hope it works!

Indygr

indygr

As I understood, Peter has the control samples(which are swatches) that Noel Howard had stored for his own references. He also has the patterns of both shirts and pants.

Therefore, I think that it's easy for him to specify the correct colours.

Indygr

indygr

Ha ha that's funny!!

I stayed in Hungary for 3 months for an internship during my university studies. That's why I know these words...I know also some more.

So in order to correct myself, grazie per le immagini:):)!

Indygr

indygr

Koszonom Szepam for the pictures Erri. You are from Hungary aren't you?

Indeed, the NH trousers have less pink into them. They tend to become much easier grey than the Wested. A pic with NH under the sun would be also very helpful.

Thanks and Yo Napot(I hope I spelled correctly:):) )

indygr

Just my personal opinion on this...: 1 - Strap and satchel: goes first because I can put everything in it and it can be used in all situations without being afraid of getting it dirty. 2 - Shirt: Classic, adventure-based and cool looking with the epaulettes, pockets and pleats 3 - Jacket: Classic an...

indygr

Hi darth,

If you are in the US try this: http://www.wovenfabrics.com/. You should select uniform fabrics-wool\poly blend cavalry twill(taupe)

If you are in Europe try to ask Platon. He has a big list of suppliers.

Indygr

indygr

Hi Returningson, These are awesome pants!! The design and pattern is excellent. Far better than Wested's. I disagree with the colour choice though :( Search for Kt's post about NH screen used trousers. Me as many others here, strongly believe that these might be original Raiders trousers. The colour...

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Greatdane, I think that 35'' unfinished leg means measuring it from the inside crotch to the end. I bought a 34 and I am 1.72 in height. The excess material was more or less 10 cm. With that I made both a hem and new backflap pockets. If you are not sure you can write to Peter or Gemma and ask them ...

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Randy

The trousers are very correct to their size! The number is true to its size. I bought a 34 and I have a waist of 35.

You have to buy the size that you really have...It will be fine!

Indygr

indygr

Hello, I would suggest you to wait a bit longer to order pants from Wested. Peter copied the patterns from the original screen used Raiders pants and he will offer a new design. The only problem is that I don't know when :( The current Wested pants are very nice. Made from screen accurate cavalry tw...

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Hey bigrex, There is a way to shrink the sleeves of your adventurebilt. When I was dying mine I put it twice in boiling water for half an hour. Now the sleeves are shorter. You could try to dip the sleeves of the AB in boiling water to try to achieve a shrinkage only on the sleeves. By the way, the ...

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Best repro shirt?? Hmm... As far as I know, the best two options are Todd's and AB which as the manufacturers state are copied from original shirts. AB is very good. Excellent construction and correct in terms of body-size analogy. The epaulettes should be placed a bit further on top(very easy if yo...

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In the old Indygear site, if my memory doesn't get me wrong, it was written:

100% Mercerised Swiss Cotton...is that possible

?? It's quite strange because in Switzerland you can hardly find cotton. Maybe his suppliers were Swiss or the cotton was processed in Switzerland?

Indygr

indygr

RaiderZee, That's a difficult question to answer...it depends strictly on your body and leg structure. However, the pants' legs should not be smaller than 8.5 in. on each side. The best thing is to bring your pants to a tailor and give to him the above measurements. Try to alter your pants in a way ...

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Hi midwestwhips, I would like to offer my input also since I have redyed my Wested shirt once. The only difference is that I used Dylon dyes instead of RIT. First, it's true that RIT have changed their recipe. In order for you to achieve the original colour you should mix 1/2 Pearl Grey and 3/4 of T...

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Were zippers available on pants in the 1930's or the 1980's for that matter (I am 24 born in '83 so I can't remember exactly when the "Zipper Your Fly" ad campaign began), and even if they weren't period accurate, why not just use a zipper anyways ? Well Neri, the new KOTCS pants have a z...

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