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JMObi

Well, I sort of have. I worked on a station in the NT years ago. We often had to muster big mean bulls. These bulls would try and lift both horse and man into the air with their horns, goring the horse. They were very frightened of a whip. You could not go anywhere near them without a whip and hope ...

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This is it. Perfect. Can't be improved on. Well done Bernardo!

I'd noticed those changes you made, in Daren's whip. His is one of the best I've seen also. Very SA.

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How does one say it....an obtainer of rare examples of fan art

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What a beauty!

Yes, I'd be interested to know more about this whip too.

JMObi

If they do another movie they could come up with a plot device where Jonesy gets his revolver stolen or damaged, and has to rely soley on the whip to get everything done that 'needs doing'. It would be fun to see. I can remember even my young niece when the last film came out complaining that you ba...

JMObi

I think both look really good, especially the raiders. Great work.

JMObi

Ditto what Dan said. I've always thought Mr Ford had excellent style. Especially the shot of him practising on the back lot. Ah, brings back memories. I filmed some of these documentary shots off the TV screen with an 8mm camera when I was a teenager, and would study the whip cracking action slowly ...

JMObi

I wouldn't mind seeing more Aussies cracking bullwhips. In the Australian Whipcrackers and Plaiters Association competition rules for whip cracking they state that only stockwhips are to be used. I think it's great that Aussie traditions are being maintained but I think it wouldn't hurt to start add...

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I bought a J series 10 foot. I thought it was unique and very well made but in the end I just didn't like it so I sold it. Not for everyone, as Dan says. It was too heavy and stiff for me and reminded me of an overly tensed muscle. It's a creative new design, and worth a place in any serious collect...

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Richard Taubman, who sometimes has ads in the APWA journal for kangaroo hides, once had a very long bullock whip which he demonstrated at the Brunette Downs races in the northern territory. It acted as a drawcard for potential buyers of his stockwhips and other gear. It was made out of redhide and w...

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I agree, Bernardo makes a top Indy whip, the best for vintage Morgan design and overall appearance in my opinion, yet a del Carpio has its unique style too, that sets it apart and identifies it as Bernardo's work. This is like fine wines or violins or something.

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Yeah, by the way Terry Jacka makes a great bullwhip. I was reading what I wrote above Dan's post. Some might think I was saying that the Jacka Indy whip is similar in action to an Australian stockwhip. Forgive my writing, as that isn't what I meant. I meant that many Aussies tend to like whips with ...

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In Australia traditional whipmakers and crackers feel that a whip should have an action as close to a stockwhip as possible. Ask an Aussie who has experience of whips to crack a short handle bullwhip like a Morgan and they'll more often than not hand it back with a less than impressed look on their ...

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Wow! All three look really great and top notch SA raiders whips. I would like to own all three makes. I still hold to the view that Bernardo has the slight edge when it comes to that extra special raiders/vintage Morgan look. Especially the handle braid and the look of the turks head knot.

JMObi

That looks like a lot of fun. I'd love to be there, cracking a 42.5 foot whip in the snow. Where I am, it is hot and humid. Must be that global warming. Or is it just the weather.

JMObi

Regarding snakes, I worked at a cattle station (ranch) right after a few seasons of good rain and there was a plague of snakes. I saw the stockmen kill a few. They would try to get the whip to crack right at ground level which isn't easy to do accurately. A whip normally cracks higher up in the air....

JMObi

Looks like a whip made by David Morgan, of the right vintage, to me.

JMObi

Aww, get the one you like the look of best, if you can't try em first.

They are both great whips. I like the feel when cracking of the Morgan style whip best.

JMObi

Very nice pictures. Thanks for posting, Hollywood.

That shot of David Morgan...what a wonderful photo and, really, an example of perfect form.

JMObi

Come to think of it, my experiment above (see 2nd post) was flawed because my friend had been told my intentions and was anticipating fully what I was trying to do. He would have been holding onto that stick with a grip like iron. Surprise would be a big factor in a real situation. I agree, it is a ...

JMObi

When I was a school kid I got a friend to hold a piece of thick branch (about 2" dia. and 1.5 feet long) so I could 'whip it out of his hand' like Indiana Jones. I assured him I would not touch him at all with the whip and indeed I didn't. My intention was just to wrap the whip around the wood ...

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I went frame by frame through the close up shot of the Indy whip in the Cairo market scene in Raiders and to me that particular whip looked like it was made of cowhide. Some of the ends of the strands coming out of the fall knot look like they have ragged, hairy underside of the leather as is someti...

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Brilliant! I'd love to have one of those in roo and another in kip. Another thing Bernardo always gets right, as well as all the other details, is the size and shape of the handle 'diamonds' in the braiding. Very Raiders.

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That looks fantastic!

JMObi

Well, here's another one to throw into the collection (it's an oldey but a goodey). 'The Plainsman': Jean Arthur in fine form with a bullwhip, in amongst other things a classic scene where someone is disarmed of a bottle he had stooped to pick up. Also a bit of a Cairo bazaar type scene as well. Alt...

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WhipDude, that's quite OK :) I didn't find you argumentative. It's great to hear all the different views on whips. Karol, I agree, the Australian stockwhip truly is the king of whips. I'm just a bit of a rebel. I like the bullwhip because it is more wild and adventuresome, as someone I think wrote a...

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Agreed.

JMObi

Ah, I remember it well (it wasn't mine, it was the other jackaroo's).

'twas a 4 plait redhide whip, fairly old. Cowhide.

JMObi

I had an expensive stockwhip go bust at the keeper (the loop at the handle connection) once. It was the keeper on the thong, too, not the handle, so stockwhips are by no means free of transition problems. But I agree, definitely better at some things. It isn't a terrible analogy, 'cause we're in the...

JMObi

Definitely bullwhip for me too, my colleagues of the thong... It's what I started with. Also, there IS an advantage that the bullwhip has over the stockwhip. The thong on a short handle bullwhip is closer to your arm than it is on a stockwhip. As you throw the whip forward, and start to form the loo...

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Like the Fish, I think the waterside disarming scene in Raiders, though a theatrical introduction of the character of Indy Jones, is very plausible. That is why this opening scene is powerful. Crazier and more unlikely things have happened in fights and confrontations. Surely, the fictional Jones is...

JMObi

Some top quality looking gear in those pictures Shane. After cracking Bernardo's whips, and a recent Morgan, I became convinced they were the style of whip for me. Nothing else I'd cracked came close.

JMObi

I started out with a bullwhip, then bought an RM Williams stockwhip. I've always much preferred a short handle bullwhip but Australians who grew up on a farm or station tend to think of them as unpractical. Give a farm-raised Aussie a bullwhip and they'll give them a few swings and say "nah...t...

JMObi

I live in hilly country and you have to experience a big booming whipcrack here to believe it. It is a huuuge sound and rolls around the hills with this ongoing crackling. Unbelievable sound. This is when doing big cracks, by the way, not the recommended smaller cracks. Anyway, when I was a teenager...

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I live in Anna territory. I've lived in a few states, they are all good. I've never been to Tasmania but hear that it is very nice. One of these days I'll check it out if I get the chance.

JMObi

Some whips I have seen, at least ones I've made myself, both stockwhip and bullwhip, have a double curve or slight s shape. Hold the whip at full length so that it unravels vertically. You should see a big arc in the main body of the thong from the handle down to almost the 'point' (the last foot or...

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Well, anyway, to each his own. BullWhipBorton summed up the situation well I thought.

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There you go George and Steven...the perfect McGuffin or PlotEnablingDevice for Indy 5: a special whip.

JMObi

It looks great Bernardo. As well as being totally practical it would look good in any context. Well done.

JMObi

Great posts by everyone here I reckon, especially Lauren's. It may be possible to make a whip without a curve but of what practical use would it be? You wouldn't be able to coil it. You would not have the benefit of the curve to help give you a reference frame whilst cracking. I go by the feel of th...

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Universally "Platt" here in Australia. Princess Leia had plates so that must be a good thing.

JMObi

Looks great! Who is the maker?

JMObi

Reminds me of the old Lost In Space episode where the alien robot guard (Robby the robot) repeats in a rising voice: "Sentence will be doubled!!....Sentence will be doubled!!!"

errr, Ok you had to be there.

Terry's whips are great. I'm sure you will be very impressed.

JMObi

Brilliant! Thanks Dan. Indisputable evidence.

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Bewdy cobber

JMObi

Around where I live it is "fair dinkum" not "fair dickum" but maybe other Aussies say it the other way. Yes, it means genuine.

JMObi

My thoughts and prayers for everyone who is close to the fires. These sorts of fires are very rare - but the old timers mention them in old books, where they describe entire ridges and mountainsides exploding into flame all at once. A firestorm. I used to think the old timers were exaggerating but o...

JMObi

Yes, it's mostly a case of whatever you enjoy best. And if you can afford lots of different types, then get lots of different kinds. If I had just one whip it would be the Morgan style 8" handle bullwhip, only because I enjoy cracking this type the best. I'm not cracking it for a job anymore th...

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That is a real find. It looks like one of the finest examples of a David Morgan bullwhip.

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She wasn't my type. If she was a bit quieter, and more civilized looking. Maybe she's a good cook.

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