Club Obi Wan

eazybox

It sold for more than the Raiders Cairo hat, and there's no really convincing evidence that Harrison Ford ever even wore it. There were dozens of hats per film made for Ford and the stuntmen. Why on earth would Ford need to share his screen-worn hats with a stuntman as claimed in the now-deceased st...

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No Indy style hats, but I do have their Guy Williams Zorro hat, which Guy's son was selling around 2005.They were available in rabbit or beaver. Mine is rabbit, which I believe sold for about $375.00 at the time. I don't think Guy Jr. sells Zorro costumes anymore, but I believe Baron still offers th...

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Yeah, that top idol great really looks like dark sable. There's another photo montage with a lot more pictures of the RAIDERS hat at different angles. I think someone put it together to help people shape their hats. I'd post it, but unfortunately I've forgotten how to post pictures on this site, so...

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IJJTM wrote:They claim it’s the color used in the film, but on screen most of the time it looks like a normal sable to my eyes.

+1.I don't care what anyone says about color correction, or whatever-- the dark sable just looks TOO dark to me. But get whichever looks right to you.

Jack

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Illinois_Jones wrote:
And that hat with the cinched ribbon does look good, btw.

Yes, that's something I neglected to mention in my comments, and I'm happy to correct it now-- great looking hat, despite the theoretical twists and "turns."

Jack

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Hard to tell for sure. The effect is not extreme or erratic, but can clearly be seen in the photos of the Cairo hat from the auction of a few years back. Jack The brim is wavy, which could be mistaken for scissors damage from certain angles. http://indygear.com/images/gear/fedora/screenused/ScreenU...

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The one late 80s--early 90s era HJ I still own (that Swales himself made for me) has a dimensional cut and an unevenly trimmed brim that looks as though it was done by hand with scissors, like the Prop Store auction TOD hat in the recent Adam Savage video. Jack Excelent! ... So why does the brim lo...

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The one late 80s--early 90s era HJ I still own (that Swales himself made for me) has a dimensional cut and an unevenly trimmed brim that looks as though it was done by hand with scissors, like the Prop Store auction TOD hat in the recent Adam Savage video.

Jack

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I haven't watched the Deborah Nadoolman interview lately, but as I remember it, they WANTED the RAIDERS crown to look "too tall." Jack I watched "making of Raiders..." that came with the triology today. Her quote- "..and the crown was a little bit too high" refering to...

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This is interesting, but a bit hard to swallow; anyone who has bought Indy hats from HJ as far back as the late 80s, as I I have, knows that the dimensional brim cut was a known and regular component of those hats. So (at least on those post-RAIDERS hats) it wasn't just an illusion caused by an exte...

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Given the title of this thread I thought I would ask here before creating a new post. Is HJ the holy grail when it gets to Last Crusade fedoras from a screen accuracy standpoint? I understand that they still have the original LC block but it's also not always a guarantee of perfect screen accuracy ...

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I want to buy a HJ Raiders. The site describes them as "straight sided" , a cone is straight sided. Does it mean straight up and down sided? Or just the sides are straight up and down? I know from old pictures of hats on the block at the shop that jack made hats with no taper anywhere, bu...

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I want to buy a HJ Raiders. The site describes them as "straight sided" , a cone is straight sided. Does it mean straight up and down sided? Or just the sides are straight up and down? I know from old pictures of hats on the block at the shop that jack made hats with no taper anywhere, bu...

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Unless you go open crown, the original Raiders crease styled by HJ is likely to still show if you put in a second, turned crease later. You'd also need to re-adjust the side creases. Jack Thanks this is helpful. Do you know anyone that may have had problems with having them put the turn in for them...

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It was my understanding that they were waiting for the actual anniversary of the release date, which won't be till June, I think. I actually spoke to Michelle earlier this week about an order I'm placing and asked about this. They are shooting for a June release but it's all contingent on if they c...

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I used to own one. I didn't order it specifically, but it was what HJ sent me as it was during the production of the YIJ series. It had a 2 inch ribbon without the double bow feature. The brim was floppier than the very stiff LC Poets I had received previously from HJ. I sold it on eBay in 2005. It ...

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Yes, these are from 1984. When I was an active collector of Indy stuff, I had many of them, both fur felt and wool felt, and I still have a few. The fur felts were very consistent in shape but varied in felt quality; the wool felts varied considerably in shape, even though they had identical labels....

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Not sure what you mean by "Holy Grail," as the HJ, as well as all the others mentioned above, are readily available. If you refer to who has or who lost the original Raiders block, with Jack's death that question probably is now muddied beyond any hope of eventual clarification. All the a...

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Not sure what you mean by "Holy Grail," as the HJ, as well as all the others mentioned above, are readily available. If you refer to who has or who lost the original Raiders block, with Jack's death that question probably is now muddied beyond any hope of eventual clarification. All the ab...

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Michaelson wrote:

The Illuminati should take notes!

Regards! M

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Michaelson wrote:Thanks. I added a bit more to that post, in case your ' ' no longer applies.

Regards! M

Ordinarily I'd give you another

, but in this case I won't, because that would tip everyone off to our carefully concealed conspiracy.

Just kidding.

eazybox

Same here, easybox. I’m not sure what I’m supposed to be ‘lying’ about. I haven’t lied about anything. I have never had a dog in the fight, and quite honestly don’t care one way or the other. This is a two year old thread and old news. I’m as confused as the rest of you what even brought this up. S...

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I haven't been active here for a long time, but since my user name was invoked I suppose I should respond. Like Michaelson, this all happened so long ago that I have no recollection of the specific details under discussion. And I haven't the time or the inclination to plow through this entire thread...

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Hey! My name's Ben and I enjoyed lurking around these forums years ago when I first got interested in costume making. Indiana Jones, Doctor Who and Nightmare on Elm Street all had a pretty similar enough hat that I could use one for all three. Garrison hatters was just starting to make a variety of...

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Just wanted to chime in that I appreciated your (eazybox) posts. It might be nice knowing that your input has been appreciated by some. I do agree that Herbert Johnson’s current offerings look very good as does the block shape. And I’m happy that you’ve found the hat that ended your quest! Thanks, ...

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I don't need the kind of aggravation I experienced earlier today and have been experiencing regularly here, so this will be my last post, at least for awhile. Any of the suggestions above would be an excellent choice, based on consistently good customer reviews. Not sure, but I don't believe the Fed...

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Whether or not Jack/HJ found literally "the" block which was used to make Ford's hat or whether they're using a new set of blocks fabricated to an older set, etc, is uninteresting to me. I can only judge the final product, and I'm going off what's currently pictured in the Swaine Adney Br...

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Although I'm not an expert on what different blocks do to different felts, I also had "all the buttons" pushed by HJ's reboot. I've said this before and gotten grief for it, but I'll say it again, because it's true: I've never owned a hat, or seen one on line, that more closely resembles ...

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Well, in any event, the OP didn't note how important being 100% SA was, "just something that looks like the Raiders hat." This non-Raiders expert picks the HJ...perhaps I'm picking out of ignorance, but what's pictured online pushes all the buttons for me. So not withstanding choosing bet...

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Since I am not the Raiders expert, what would you identify from the available pictures online that makes John's beaver hats more accurate than what HJ is offering? I know it's a slightly apples to oranges comparison because there is no turn on the HJ hat. But to my uncritical/untrained eye, the bea...

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easybox, I feel like these questions have been asked and answered a few times in this thread. There are pictures of the auction hat that have different bashes/creases. Brandon has explained the cause of the different looks. He has also authenticated the providence of the hat as being the one once o...

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Except for some indistinct smudges, the markings that clearly stood out on the hat when it was in Desi's possession do not appear to be there now, which can be confirmed by comparing photos."It is easily pushed back down to the way it should look." Then my question would be why, instead of...

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Removing the fuller's earth soiling that was actually shown on screen seems like an odd decision. And like the reshaping, it wasn't a decision that was made sometime in the dim past when less care was taken with props and costumes, but just before the auction. It makes no sense to me. It opens a wh...

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Removing the fuller's earth soiling that was actually shown on screen seems like an odd decision. And like the reshaping, it wasn't a decision that was made sometime in the dim past when less care was taken with props and costumes, but just before the auction. It makes no sense to me. It opens a wh...

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Looking back over some of the earlier posts, I see that, according to them, the hat definitely WAS reshaped, and then reshaped once again to appear more screen accurate. This is a form of despoliation that is anathema to serious collectors. You would want the item, as closely as possible, to be the...

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Looking back over some of the earlier posts, I see that, according to them, the hat definitely WAS reshaped, and then reshaped once again to appear more screen accurate. This is a form of despoliation that is anathema to serious collectors. You would want the item, as closely as possible, to be the ...

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On the first page of this thread Mike stated Brandon confirmed this is Desi’s fedora. Regards, Indiana Jeff If true (and it probably is), then it appears to me from comparing the photos that the hat was "freshened up" a bit before the recent sale ("Big mistake, Indy!"). But as I...

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Huh, I assumed this was the same hat as the one Desi had. Just looks like it was cleaned up (which would be a strange thing to do since the soiling was from the film production). So, these are two different hats? :-k To my eyes, the bow and ribbon work looks almost exactly the same, but the rest of...

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Collecting is a risky hobby, there is no doubt about that. No matter how carefully you check out an item, unless you get it directly from the source, there is always a chance it is bogus. And even "experts" can disagree on authenticity. But you can put the odds more in your favor by not bi...

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I don't have the answers to any of your questions, but would have asked some of the same ones were I interested in buying this hat. For one thing, it looks in better shape to me than the one that was owned by Desi. It looks like it was cleaned, at the very least, because I don't see some of the dirt...

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Well, considering that hat is one the single most iconic pieces of film costuming of all time, I'd say half a million is about right. Personally, I'd give the title "single most iconic piece of film costuming of all time" to Judy's ruby slippers. Indy's fedora certainly belongs somewhere ...

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Jeremiah wrote:No need for that kind of language here.

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$521,000? Darn. I was a day late and $520,999 short. EDITED: originally I used the other "D" word and it was censored. Hope "darn" is OK. If not, I'll try "Oh, dear." ;) The hobby of prop collecting, unfortunately, has become an exclusive club for super rich investors, ...

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My 15 years of research and reproduction of the concentric lines on the crown indicate that the original bash was a pork pie. There is a pork pie pictured at 10 o'clock on the HJ catalog page. So it's just the back of teardrop that is original in my opinion. DNL, who often misremembers details, did...

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Did you buy your hats new directly from HJ? Many people, especially IJ fans, would change the shape after they got their Poets. I also bought two from Lee Keppler which he restyled before sending them to me. Anyway, the ones I got directly from HJ were not exactly teardrops; I believe it's referred ...

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https://www.advintage.de/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/raidershatcrown.jpg This is what the top of the Raiders hat looked like before it was reshaped for the film! They didn't "rebash it" it just fell back into it's original shape with a tiny bit of proding! You are correct. This is the way ...

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Be well, Jack-- and thanks for making me the hat of my dreams.

eazybox

I wish/hope Jack WOULD stick his head in the door for clarification of certain facts, but he has been fighting a VERY serious and life threatening illness for a quite a while now, so I have no doubt at this time this is a back burner topic for him at the moment. Here's praying he comes out on the o...

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I do not wish to touch off another kerfuffle-- just want to add my own thoughts on the original question. Everyone has their opinion on this issue, to which they are entitled, but consensus among members here seems elusive. Some "interested parties" have their own agendas, others are preju...

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Trying to get us back on track... One thing I’d like to say is that it took me a long time to realIze that the hat looks the way it does in the films because of, well, the hat, but ALSO (and perhaps especially) because of how it fit the man wearing it. That’s part of what makes a truly high quality...

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