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Kt Templar

You know what, I cant really tell. None of my jackets are OTRs, I always need about 2" chopped off the sleeves so I dont know that the cuff measure is. I tend to ask for an across the cuff measure. Usually tho, even if I didn't ask for an across the cuff, ie in a Standard Raiders or the Temple,...

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My favourite is the Legacy LC, the leather is so easy to distress up.

Though a Dial is calling to me...

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Wested will adjust sleeve width too, just give them the cuff across measure. Elbow too if you want.

But look at the temple entrance scene, the sleeves themselves may be wider then you think.

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On an interesting note, I bought an Indy Jacket from Five Star Leather as I recognised the pattern as a mid 80s Indy but couldnt remember the maker it was patterned after, pretty sure it's the Flightjackets pattern. Five star make mid cost but very high quality A2 jackets. The Indy jacket is steerhi...

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Mick has posted recently that all their jackets are currently essentially custom made, the volume of orders from the Indy 5 style jacket has meant they have no down time to make the OTRs. Current production time is about 28 days.

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I found the Legacy Raiders quite resistant to the scotchbrite. Eventually I resorted to soapy water and wet and dry sandpaper!

It remains the firmest feeling lamb I've had out of many jackets, it almost feels like goat.

The Legacy LC on the other hand... keep with the green pads and water.

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It fits you very well. Have fun wearing it.

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TBH with the way the £ has tanked I don't blame them. Buying from overseas sellers will be equally more expensive because of the poor exchange rate, it's a lose-lose if you are a £ customer. You don't. The straps are shorter on all the jackets now. I see Wested have just put their prices up. Hero in...

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Pit to pit 21.5"
Back length 28"
Collar 15.5" approx.
Arm from shoulder 24.25"
Sleeve 33"

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I bought one of the seconds shirts in M. Size is correct for European medium, though probably on the short side on the length on the arms and body. It fits snugly, though I could do with losing a few pounds. The buttons as noted are too big, I'll need to swap them out. The weight of the fabric remin...

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I wouldn't subtract anything. If they come out too long, wear them a bit and see if the arms ride up a bit with wear and wrinkling, then get them altered locally. You can get sleeves shortened, but it's almost impossible to get them lengthened.

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Be careful with the sleeves, they sound a little short to me, best double check. You can live with slightly long sleeves, but you'll hate slightly short ones. Measure from the tip of your shoulder to the joint past where your fingers join your hand. The Legacy LC leather is buttery soft and lightwei...

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That guy ordered it much too long for him.

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Thanks Jeff, I’d never heard of that. Ever. It does look white, though some may say more grey, which doesn’t help. I think it did feel ‘waxy’ so another pointer to ‘spew’, which though it sounds weird comes as a bit of a relief. I just couldn’t se how it could possibly be mildew, but what do I know...

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A lot of leather repair kits are a backing piece, then you fill the tear with what is essentially coloured PVA and then cover it with a textured piece of plastic to mimic the grain when it dries it's supposed to blend in with the leather. I've no idea if they actually work, and the pactch will likel...

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Kokopelli wrote:KT Templar- can you post some more pics? Those are beautiful, and I want to see the back, sides…more!

You asked so nicely, how could I refuse.

I don't have any side shots, but heres a back.

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whiskyman wrote:That confirms it - LC looks great! Raiders..well...can't say I like the look of that leather- doesn't seem to have the Raiders vibe that other earlier Wested's have had.

I like the colour, I like the weight, and I like the finish. But it is too smooth, it needs a bit of ribby character.

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Maybe it's the lighting, but the LC looks terrific, while the Raiders looks disapointing, in terms of the leather and distressing. The daytime shots of the LC are even better. (what we laughingly call daylight here in winter!). :) https://i.ibb.co/VMPzL5t/IMG-3548.jpg https://i.ibb.co/fHT1f0J/IMG-3...

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They are different.

The Raiders Legacy is darker and slightly heavier weight.

post pics

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Wow... nice jacket Kt. Amazing how the leather actually looks more formidable and substantial when it isn't shiny and new. How does that leather compare in weight and firmness to the standard Wested lamb? Thank you, it's actually a lightweight leather, it may even be lighter than regular lamb, but ...

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I totally agree with Holt on this one. I bought a Legacy a few weeks ago, when I got it I was a little surprised at the colour, it looked a lot like the slightly grey milk chocolate authentic brown from about 10 years ago. Contacted Mick to make sure it was the right "legacy" lamb leather,...

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That back image of the jacket is facinating, so much tape pucker especially around the strap anchors.

That's a detail I love, wish jacket makers could reproduce that at least as an option. I wonder if it was a combo of mesh support tape and cow gum that produced that?

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Weirdly enough my second driving force in this hobby, after "heck yeah original maker!!" was, wow: made to measure at £135! (this was a while ago!) I'm 5ft 2 after a good night sleep, 40" chest. So standard sized jackets tend to swamp me a bit, the ability to trim a couple of inches o...

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Yes, Wested's OTR CS/LC jacket as they call it is their submission to LFL. It's not accurate to Tony's CS jacket that appears in the film. Most notably the pocket size and shape is not accurate to Tony's. I think the collar width is not accurate either. If you want a Crystal Skull jacket I would go...

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Thank you, xmasters! Is it correct that the TOD sleeves are also narrower? My arms are on the thin side. I'm not sure if I'd say narrower, but well tailored. For the chest order your exact closest size. Decent repost of a customer’s ToD pic on Wested’s Twitter if you haven’t seen already: https://t...

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I think we often order these jackets slightly too short, they are much more comfortable to wear with modern trousers slightly longer ie about an inch more than you'd think.

I'd err slightly on the side of caution.

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Pretty sure that i'm one of the first to be killed by such a high fee. I've emailed wested about that, free to them to change or not their habits. I probably won't order anything from the UK so soon. Sorry to bother you all with my misfortune. Now back to the jackets, i'll give you all a review whe...

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Love a bit of striated lamb, it's just so different and "unmassproduced" looking. Gives you jackets so much character,

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The pocket flaps are not particularly deep, though you should know I have a shortened jacket as I'm so short myself.

Starting to work on the distressing, though more work is needed.

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As I recall, Bernie pulled a LC jacket from the LFL Archives to use as a basis for the new jackets for CS the TNO would have been based on a Wested jacket. That being said, in the 12 years since CS came out, all of the jacket manufacturers have had opportunities to examine each others jackets and p...

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I have one, these are straight out of the box, the jacket has nice acurate hardware: 2 prong buckles, n*pple style poppers and a white metal zipper, the Berman's label is sewn onto the liner minus the leather patch they normally use and there's and embroidered dedication sewn inside the pocket. The ...

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Older jackets seem to have a cloth inner collar stand. This is the nice dark drown they used pre 2003 ish I believe.

Nice score.

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The people who complain that an Indy shirt is too thin haven't seen an original, or a Noel Howard. This line of thinking ends up with the flannel like first Todds.

It's not a thick cotton shirt.

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For a made to measure A2 have a look into Five Star Leathers, they are in Pakistan and their jackets start at about $120 on ebay. Fantastic work and very, very fast turnaround. About $300 for horsehide.

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One thing I would suggest is don't go too short on the sleeves, you can always get sleeve shortened but extending is pretty much impossible and sleeves that are too short on an Indy jacket are a pain. At 5.7 you may find the standard length on a hero suits you for day to day wear, a slightly long ja...

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McFly wrote:
But this was the picture I saw that made me say, “Oh! I’m definitely getting the Shrunken Lamb!”

OOPs sorry!

Eco flo is your friend if it's too light coloured!

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Have a look at the shrunken lamb they have, it's very dark and has a bit of a texture to it. This is a ToD but you get the idea. https://i.ibb.co/dQbcSFC/IMG-9866.jpg Hey KT Did you say that jacket is actually a washed lamb? Do you have any more photos of it to give an idea of the colour? Looks mig...

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The LC one looks like a copy of the Wested LC/CS. ie. Double seam arm holes and overstitched hem at the bottom of the jacket. Not seen a pic of the insides, if it has facings then that confirms it. The Raiders looks a repro of their basic Raiders too with the tall pockets. https://www.maxcady.com/s...

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The LC one looks like a copy of the Wested LC/CS. ie. Double seam arm holes and overstitched hem at the bottom of the jacket. Not seen a pic of the insides, if it has facings then that confirms it.

The Raiders looks a repro of their basic Raiders too with the tall pockets.

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Wested replied to me regarding my situation. They are willing to take it back but where I live, most shipping companies closed down here in the Philippines due to the covid outbreak. They told me they're willing to give me a 50% refund for this though, so not a total loss. Regarding the jacket, the...

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What you could also try is a product called "Eco-Flo water stain" it is a leather dye, I've had a good result using it to warm up the highlights on a pre distressed cowhide. If you get the dark brown, you can probably even out the colour on the shrunken lamb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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This kind of leather varies from piece to piece and even across a single piece of leather, it is without meaning to pun - the nature of the beast. A very similar thing can be seen on the Crystal Skull Jackets that Lucasfilm put on display and there's no arguing that those were not expensive jackets....

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CM, what is the wrinkling from ? It's the tape backing around the pocket. I think it might be that heat seal stuff that used to be used to quickly hem trousers with heat from an iron, or it could be something completely different. I really puckers up on the Hawaii jacekt and this one too. You used ...

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I've had this "antique cow" LC for a good few years, love it, but it's always been slightly light and slightly grey my eyes. Now, I know that the original jacket is not quite as reddy as many of the images make it seem, as they have been graded warm, but you know how you minds eye gets ske...

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Tibor wrote:KT,

Is that really the “shrunken lamb“, and not the “washed lamb? I’ve never seen the shrunken lamb so nice and dark. Great looking texture.

You could be right there! It's a very dark brown, finish is almost the same as regular lamb but with that slight wrinkle effect. I like it a lot.

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Have a look at the shrunken lamb they have, it's very dark and has a bit of a texture to it. This is a ToD but you get the idea. https://i.ibb.co/dQbcSFC/IMG-9866.jpg Might plan on getting another Raiders Hero. Torn between pre-distressed lamb and authentic lamb. I like the pre-distressed lamb becau...

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havershaw wrote:Well, that definitely fixed the sleeves!

Forums need a "Like" button.

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Take a look at Five Star Leather, made to your sizes and very customisable (thread, knits lining and zippers). They are in Pakistan, and do very good work. I have two horse hide jackets from them and a goat all great leather quality and very well constructed. These are the two horse hide. Custom are...

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Uh, several of those sites were using the term full grain, including aacrack, which used the term to describe leathers from tempesti, an Italian tannery. Really not in the way suggested, ie every leather marked full grain, top grain, etc... it's just marketing speak. Then again I remember the offic...

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In the UK, I don't think I've ever heard the terms top grain or full grain used. The genuine leather tag mean it's leather. I think the use of "genuine leather" on bonded leather in the EU wouldn't pass trading standards. Pretty sure top grain and full grain are industry jargon, and are c...

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