hey thanks guys for all the help
i was having comp problems so i couldnt get on
i dont know what i size i need or anything like that, but i will look into all of these brands particualrly the adventurebilt

i need to find a cheap but hardy fedora.

aha
i see
that means that i am about $275 away
well it was worth a try

so gimme the scoop i need some help