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Axel

I wore a cowhide Cooper Indy jacket for about ten years until it was ruined by a dry cleaner during a cleaning. I replaced it with a goatskin Expo from G&B. The goatskin has a smoother feel to it and is much lighter. I like it very much.

Axel

Axel

guitone, I have had my goat Expo for about one year now and love it. It is a 40 Short and fits me perfectly. Initially, it was quite stiff and a bit shiny. I put it through many cycles in a cold clothes dryer, wadded it up in a ball, and wore it every chance I could. Now it is quite supple and drape...

Axel

Thanks for the information Rixter. I'll definitely give the FS lamb consideration if I am ever in the market for a lightweight leather jacket.

Axel

Axel

Rixter, Thanks for the comparison of the FS goat vs. FS lamb. My summary of your comments is that the lamb is more luxurious, but more fragile and is more of a special occasion vs. daily wear jacket. It drapes beautifully, but items in the pockets will show through the leather. Have you actually had...

Axel

I had a Cooper jacket that I purchased back in 1992. It was distressed cowhide. It was very heavy though soft and rugged. The distressing appeared to be by hand and not a uniform machine distressing like on some other leathers. It really looked beat up which I loved. When I first received it, my sis...

Axel

guitone wrote: Speaking about the delicate nature of lamb, I bought an expensive black leather this winder, and Andrew Marc, I think it is goat and it is just beautiful, but I can tell it will not hold it's shape over time very well.. guitone, Did you mean to say that you think your Andrew Marc jack...

Axel

I've had my goatskin Expo for almost a year now. It has a 40R body and 40S sleeves and fits great. It has become quite supple, but does not show any aging of the leather. The goatskin appears to be very tough. Does anyone have both a goat and lamb Expo that they can give a comparison on? I'm curious...

Axel

I don't have a lamb Expo, but I do have a goat Expo. It has a 40R torso and 40S sleeves. I measure 24.5" from the bottom of the neck seam to the edge of the back panel.

Axel

I caught a little of Imus wearing the jacket this morning. I could only see it from midchest and up. I don't remember seeing a storm flap. It looked like both sides of the zipper were visible. I couldn't see any pockets to compare. I'll plan to Tivo his show tomorrow in case he wears it again. Axel

Axel

lowmileage,

I think I saw your jacket back on the clearance page on Flightsuits. It is advertised as a 40R torso and 40S sleeves. So it appears that they realized their mistake.

Axel

Axel

lowmileage,

What was the general condition of the leather? You mentioned that G&B called it slightly blemished. What was your impression of the lambskin?

Axel

Axel

lowmileage, Sorry to hear about your bad experience with G&B. My jacket tag reads 40 Made-to-measure due to the shorter sleeves. Does yours say 40R? Wested lists the sleeve (shoulder to cuff) length of their 40R as 24.25" which is much longer than what you measured on your Expo. Hopefully, ...

Axel

lowmileage,

I measured my jacket from the outer shoulder seam to the end of the sleeve. It measures 22.5". It sounds like your jacket has 40 short sleeves.

Hopefully, G&B will confirm this.

Axel

Axel

Major Mike,

Glad to hear that the problem has been solved and that it was due to the jacket getting wet and not to some aging aspect of the Expo. I feel better about the long term life of my Expo now.

Axel

Axel

I've had my goat Expo for about 6 months now and the liner does hang about 1/2 inch past the point where the liner is sewn in at the sleeve. This still leaves another 1/2 inch until it is even with the sleeve opening. I'll see if it creeps anymore. I don't know G&B's policy on this. It would pro...

Axel

Merry Christmas to everyone also! I have been wearing my B-2 around the house to get the fit better, plus it's my Xmas present to myself. Flathead, Thanks for the suggestions. The next time I order from Pecard, I will order some leather lotion. I'll need to decide whether to put it on the underside ...

Axel

Flathead, I used your suggestions to great results. My B-2 cap had a crack on the sheepskin at the front of the cap. I used shoe polish and Pecard's jell on the crack and it disappeared. I also used the jell on the horsehide trim and top of the visor. Is there anything I need to apply to the undersi...

Axel

Flathead,

Thanks, I already commented on the other thread as to your great write-up. Pretty funny that you got the same comments on the B-2. At least with the B-2 it has a place in history.

Axel

Axel

Flathead,

Wow! Great info once again. I will print this out and use the info to care for my B-2.

Axel

Axel

Exactly ShanghaiJack! You can't tease us with a great story and not show us photos.

Axel

Axel

I received my B-2 hat from Real McCoy's. It only took a little over a week to get here from New Zealand. The hat looks great. The thick cowhide visor already has that vintage look and the dark seal matches perfectly with my dark brown Expo. The hat fit very snuggly when I first got it. In fact I cou...

Axel

That is a beautiful jacket. I just received a Real McCoy's B-2 hat which I love. It took awhile before the hat fit my head comfortably. I had to stretch it out and let the shearling compress. It was the largest size they had. Now it is comfortable. I was wondering the same thing about treating my B-...

Axel

After nearly ten years of wear the inside collar of my Indy jacket definitely was showing soiling. A darker jacket may not show the dirt as easily.

Axel

Axel

Does anyone know what year Cooper stopped making the U.S. Wings jacket?

Axel

Axel

Tony, So you were on the phone with U.S. Wings and they said that Cooper did not make their Indy jackets? All I know is what is written on the Indy Gear main site "Gear" and "FAQ" sections as far as the Cooper, U.S. Wings connection. Perhaps someone more in the know can comment. ...

Axel

Rixter, I had originally intended to put this in "Gear and Distressing", but out of habit I posted it in "Leather Jacket." :oops: That is a good idea to see whom G&B would recommend. I'll keep it in mind. Even if I have to ship it out of state, at least I would have the comfo...

Axel

I was going through some of my old log notes and saw that I had received my first Indy jacket in December of 1992. It was a Christmas present. It was sold as the official Indiana Jones jacket from a magazine ad. I believe the vendor was W & W. From the Indy Gear jacket web page, I learned that t...

Axel

Thanks for all the good comments. This happened at least 2 years ago. I took it back to the cleaner and voiced my displeasure. He ended up coloring it to a light tan color. The problem with this was two-fold. First, all the distressing of the leather was covered up. Second, the coat now had a vinyl-...

Axel

Rixter,

At the time I did not know of Pecard's. I had periodically used leather lotion of some kind, but I do not think that I had used it around the time of the cleaning. Is there an interaction between Pecard's and leather cleaning?

The dry cleaner farmed it out to a leather cleaner.

Axel

Axel

I had an "Official Indiana Jones" (Cooper/U.S. Wings) distressed cowhide jacket that I wore for about ten years. I finally decided that it needed a cleaning so I had a dry cleaner send it out for cleaning. When it came back it had gone from a chocolate milk color to off-white. It had been ...

Axel

I was also thinking that the seal brown hat would go better with my dark seal goat Expo.

Axel

Axel

Flathead, I wish that I had known that Real McCoy's offered the B-2 in the redskin. Judging from the pictures only, I favor the redskin because the visor and crown match colorwise. Does Real McCoy's charge more for the redskin like History Preservation does? I guess that I'll need to plan to do the ...

Axel

Fedora, Here are links to both the Eastman and Real McCoy's B-2 caps. The pictures of the Eastman's are easier to see. For the History Preservation site, click on "Products", then "World War II USAAF Headgear by Eastman Leather". http://historypreservation.com/hpassociates/index....

Axel

Flathead, Thanks for the info on the B-2. I can't wait to get it. Paddy said that I should have it by next week. I wear either a 7 1/2 or 7 5/8. I opted for the 7 5/8. It sounds like that was a good decision based on your experience. I do have some concerns that the shearling will fit too tightly. T...

Axel

Shishak,

That's an interesting observation. I'll have to make note of that when I wear my Expo versus one of my right-handed zipper jackets.

I now have a more positive opinion of the left-handed zipper.

Axel

Axel

Rixter, I was considering starting a thread about hats other than Fedoras that members wear with their Indy jackets, but Fedora might frown on that. :wink: I hope the B-2 isn't too stiff. Being sheepskin, I was thinking it would be supple. Orvis has a deerskin "Ivy" hat that looked like it...

Axel

Hemingway,

I'm not trying to speak for Bruce, but I think he meant that Wested still hasn't responded to his email that he sent last week.

Axel

Axel

Bufflehead Jones wrote: The only reason for me to zip it up would be if it was really cold. In that case I am going to forego the Indy jacket and put on a real winter coat. I guess I'm on the opposite end of this. I plan to wear my G&B goat as much as I can this winter. I am layering it with a d...

Axel

Bufflehead,

The movie jackets had the zipper pulls on the left side. The U.S. Wings' jackets have the zipper pulls on the right side as is customary here in the U.S.

Axel

Axel

Minnesota (Can I call you Minny?), don't forget about U.S. Authentic's Indy jacket. Funny, that I haven't seen any posts from site members who have one of these.

Axel

Axel

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."

Axel

Axel

On the U.K. Eastman's site, there is a link for U.S. and Canadian customers that will direct you to the U.S. distributor. I just put in an order for a Real McCoy's B-2 winter hat. It may be sacrilege to wear a hat other than a fedora with an Indy jacket, but I wanted a winter hat with ear flaps. The...

Axel

Here is a description I found for sleeve length for dress shirts: "Sleeve length is the length from the middle of your back to the shoulder and down your arm to your wrist bone. Round up to the nearest inch. Many dress shirts are sized with a sleeve range, such as a 34-35 sleeve." When I r...

Axel

If it is determined that it was an error by Wested, will they pay for the shipping costs for the returned item and the replacement jacket?

Axel

Axel

I checked with Aero and the Californian is indeed made from American buffalo (bison). That is an intriguing leather jacket.

Axel

Axel

Over a decade ago, I bought my first Indiana Jones jacket. It was marketed as the Official Indiana Jones jacket and had a label that only said "Indiana Jones." I wore that jacket faithfully for many years until the lining wore out. I had a local dry cleaner replace the lining and clean the...

Axel

Thanks for the clarification. It may just be the way ShanghaiJack is standing, but the back does look shorter than the front from his side shots.

Axel

Axel

Forgive me, but I'm new to this modification. When you add an inch up front is that to the width/girth of the jacket or the length of the jacket front? If it is to the length of the jacket, will the front extend down farther then the back panel? And would the side panels match up with the front? Axel

Axel

Flathead, if I extend your reasoning of Wested vs. Aero and mil spec construction, would you expect a G&B Expo to last a lifetime vs. a Wested which would not? I'm not trying to stir the pot, but I suppose that's why the Expo cost more than the Wested.

Axel

Axel

Flathead, I had heard that when leather was referred to as buffalo that it was actually water buffalo and that leather was not normally made from bison. How can you be certain that a leather is bison and not water buffalo?

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