Official Factory Produced KotCS AdventureBilt Fedora (Henry)

The Aviator · Post by **The Aviator** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:00 pm

look at the reverse taper on the last pic!!...This hat looks very very verryyyy good.

Cheers

BendingOak · Post by **BendingOak** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:13 pm

Great news Marc, I can't wait to see it. Congrats ounce again.

The Aviator · Post by **The Aviator** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:20 pm

I have sat looking in awe at that thing!!

the crown shape is spot on!!....The very fact your getting this into production to the spec's you demand is a serious achievement. Now how to get the money

...

Cheers

Niob · Post by **Niob** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:46 pm

Fantastic work Marc. Congrats

cehnot · Post by **cehnot** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:16 pm

What sizes are available to order for The Henry?
I usually buy 7 1/4 US size hats and I was wondering if this may be close to the new factory hat size. When I got my Peter Brothers Custom Raiders hat this last year I found that the hat fit until after I went in the rain. Since shrinkage occurred and I ashamed to admit it, the hat has a strong taper.

I love the price for the factory hat and I want to buy one this weekend through Paypal, but I would like to have some reassurance about sizes, or whether I should go with 1 size bigger in case of future shrinkage.

Thanks

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:28 pm

Hey chenot,

the first prototype was left for three days in the car by me, to see what happens (as - usually - this is something you SHOULDN'T do to a hat). The felt came out fine but the sweat hat shrunk a little. So I told the hatter that he needs to pre-shrink the leather, which is what he's doing now. Though it's not roo hide, I doubt that it would shrink too much when worn in the rain.

Oh, all sizes available.

Regards,

Marc

Pitfall Harry · Post by **Pitfall Harry** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:28 pm

You know I've been interested in this project from the moment it was announced and I think the hat looks fantastic. I really hope I can figure out a way to come up with some money soon so I can take advantage of the discounted price. Even IF I can't it's still a great price for the hat.

I'd like to see a sizing chart as well.

I'm guessing you'll be ordering this thinner felt before any "customer hats" are made, correct? How "thick" is the prototype and will having a thinner felt help style the hat easier? If so then how will this effect it's durability in the long run?

Sorry, I'm still totally clueless when it comes to this stuff.

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:35 pm

Regarding the felt thickness, we're talking 0.3mm here which is next to nothing. The felt is butter soft and very easy to crease right out of the box, no steam, even with this felt. As for durability, this small amount of thickness will hardly have any influence. I just want the same thickness as Steve and I are using. However - due to our extensive pouncing - we take off a little more felt and that is the entire difference.

The SLIGHTLY thinner felt will be on all customer's hats, yes.

As for sizing, they'll come in all standard sizes i.e.: 7 1/8, 7 1/4, 7 3/8 or in cm: 57, 58, 59 etc. etc.

The felt has water repellent added to it at the factory and is pounced to have a very soft and smooth surface.

Regards,

Marc

cehnot · Post by **cehnot** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:01 pm

I appreciate you getting back to me in such a quick turnaround. I think i will be getting you my order this weekend. I joined Aug 2007 and been looking forward to this factory hat since this thread began.

squidkidd · Post by **squidkidd** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:08 pm

Hey Marc,

Is the Henry felt getting the pre-aging treatment, or is that remaining a hand-made exclusive?

Regards,
Brian

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:12 pm

The pre-aging treatment is EXTREMELY time consuming and as such it'll remain an exclusive for the handmade hats from Steve and me.

Regards,

Marc

Indiana Venkman · Post by **Indiana Venkman** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:16 pm

A quick question about sizes...are you able to offer smaller sizes than 57, like 54 or 55?

I am in awe, the hat looks amazing!

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:43 pm

Ummm.... yeah, I don't see why we shouldn't be able to offer smaller sizes...

Regards,

Marc

K on the run · Post by **K on the run** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:24 pm

Woooha Great hat Marc.
Put me down for one

Fantastic job my friend.

Now get back in the hattery

Vi ses min ven.
Kim

Doctor_Jones · Post by **Doctor_Jones** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:38 pm

Looks just fantastic.

SankaraRaider · Post by **SankaraRaider** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:56 pm

I'm not an expert in hats or anything Marc, but this hat looks GREAT!!

What I really like is that you aren't settling with a few mm off, but wants to get everything just right, the attention to detail is fantastic!

Hats off to you!
And hats on.. our heads

And btw, it's really a nice member-price your offering! Thanks

Expect to get a payment from me.. as soon as I get enough capital

Kasper

DR Ulloa · Post by **DR Ulloa** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:26 pm

Congrats Marc, this looks fantastic. The COW discount is also great. The Henry looks amazing.

Dave

Chaval85 · Post by **Chaval85** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:30 pm

Amazing hat! Congratulations, Marc!!

Is it true that tthe "Henry" hats will be made in Spain?

hankey01 · Post by **hankey01** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:07 pm

Looks so great!

Man..I paypalled Steve for one on May 13 and have emailed him many times to confirm my order..never got a reply so I'm scared it got lost in the shuffle. I'm kinda wishing I had used that money here.

Great work Marc!

havershaw · Post by **havershaw** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:03 am

This looks beautiful, but I have a question:

The brim on the sides and back looks quite flat. Are they going to come curled at all, or is that something each individual owner will have to put in?

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:57 am

I'd be glad to request a little more curl to the brim

Regards,

Marc

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:00 am

Request sent

Regards,

Marc

WeeMadHamish · Post by **WeeMadHamish** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:31 pm

That there looks a heck of a lot better than the pics of the first prototype. It's a winner in my eyes.

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:13 pm

Marc,

Another question about sizing. Will they be standard oval or will you be offering long oval for those of us with alien heads as well?

Thank you so much for your offering here and sharing of the prototype images. That hat looks fantastic!!

Cheers!

Dan

Chewbacca Jones · Post by **Chewbacca Jones** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:01 pm

Marc,

In the Vendor section, you say something about this operation requiring you to utilize your spare time. Are you just referring to all the set-up, or is there some part for you to play once the hat is finalized and orders are being filled?

mufflowne · Post by **mufflowne** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:13 pm

Man, trying to resist to buy one immediately...I should wait till I make some money to buy it, but....aaargh! I want one so bad!

havershaw · Post by **havershaw** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:46 pm

Wow! Thanks, Mark!

I'm no Indy hat specialist but I do like a nice curl to the sides and rear of a fedora, and to my eye, Indy hats seem to have them.

Well...now it looks like I gotta buy another hat!

My wife will be thrilled, I'm sure.

rrhanselka · Post by **rrhanselka** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:45 pm

Marc.....
Great looking hat!!! I hope you didn't have them put too much curl in the brim. I've always felt that the original ROTLA hat had very little curl to the back of the brim, but that's just me. But, let me get this straight. Is this the same bash, and basically hat, as the AB hat I received recently with a KofCS bash? I really want a "Henry", but not if it's the same hat.

Many Thanks
Randoman

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:55 pm

If I remember correctly they come open crowned and you bash it yourself. I could be wrong there though. The only aspect that matches the Raiders hat is the blocking which gives it its distinctive straight sides. Am I right about this Marc?

Cheers!

Dan

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:47 am

These come in reg. oval only - as this is what the old block design is. However - being a long oval myself - I don't have any problems with that, so I don't think other people will. It just adds more pull to the front and back, which again gives a better reverse taper

Regarding my time... you all know that I'm not in the position to be a fulltime hatter and therefore I'm so far behind on the AB-Dlx.

So in order to not make it worse, I'm currently only taking Paypal orders, as this is easiest to handle.

The hatter DOES have one of our hats at his place for reference, so they'll know not to curl the brim too much.

Yes, Dan. The Henry comes open crown. The Henry is accurate to the Raiders Fedora in terms of felt thickness and color (perhaps a NOTCH darker so it'll fade into the perfect match), ribbon, block and specs. PLUS: the reeding tape and the leather of the sweatband look IDENTICAL to the ones on my vintage HJs

I believe this to be EXTREMELY close to the real deal, except this ones got 20% beaver and costs less than an HJ

Regards,

Marc

Doctor_Jones · Post by **Doctor_Jones** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:50 am

thanks for the info, Marc.

cehnot · Post by **cehnot** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:00 am

How long does the whole (purchase to receiving) process take for the Henry?
Would they likely ship out by August if we order this week?

I was reading on CNN that the American Dollar may go down in value end of summer, so buy your hat soon.

If anybody is having a hard time doing currency exchange rates for their hat, I suggest using
http://www.xe.com/ucc/

mufflowne · Post by **mufflowne** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:22 pm

So I took the plunge.

I ordered. YES! I DID!

I can't really afford it, but I know it's worth it and i'd be sorry later if I didn't.

Fedora · Post by **Fedora** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:02 pm

Looks good for a factory hat Marc. I like the idea that the hat is 20 per cent beaver. I mean, it really is 20 per cent beaver. I think that is how hatters ought to advertise their hats, by beaver content as the X system is meaningless today. A 10x hat can actually have NO beaver fur at all in it. This AB factory hat is actually a true 20x hat, or 2x if you were back in the old days. Looks to be a good, soft hat. I think I would tell the ribbon installer to just put a fold in the bow and not try to coax a flying v out of it. If the fold is put in correctly, like you see on some of the older Christy hats, it will morp on its own into a flying v. But overall, this hat looks really good. Kudos my friend. A question. Have you caused the factory hatter to pull all of his hair out yet?

I can just hear their conversation now. "That nitpicky guy from Germany is on the phone again about that hat. Should I just tell him you are gone for the day???

Fedora

cehnot · Post by **cehnot** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:12 pm

I took the hit as well. I am even moving in a new apartment with my girlfriend this week and figured that it was cheaper to do so now than later. Since I bought it now, I do not need to have her badger me about it!

ichnob · Post by **ichnob** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:14 pm

Man...here I am starting up a savings for a regular AB from Steve, and now Marc comes out with a factory built alternative... Which one to choose?

mufflowne · Post by **mufflowne** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:32 pm

ichnob - ask yourself how soon you wanna have an AB? In about a month, or in about a year?

MisterJones · Post by **MisterJones** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:04 pm

Congratulation AB! This hat looks awesome, absolutey fantastic!!!

Do you offer half sizes (e.g. 57,5 cm) as well?

Thanks,
MisterJones

DanielJones · Post by **DanielJones** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:12 pm

Marc wrote:These come in reg. oval only - as this is what the old block design is. However - being a long oval myself - I don't have any problems with that, so I don't think other people will. It just adds more pull to the front and back, which again gives a better reverse taper

Regarding my time... you all know that I'm not in the position to be a fulltime hatter and therefore I'm so far behind on the AB-Dlx. So in order to not make it worse, I'm currently only taking Paypal orders, as this is easiest to handle.

The hatter DOES have one of our hats at his place for reference, so they'll know not to curl the brim too much.

Yes, Dan. The Henry comes open crown. The Henry is accurate to the Raiders Fedora in terms of felt thickness and color (perhaps a NOTCH darker so it'll fade into the perfect match), ribbon, block and specs. PLUS: the reeding tape and the leather of the sweatband look IDENTICAL to the ones on my vintage HJs I believe this to be EXTREMELY close to the real deal, except this ones got 20% beaver and costs less than an HJ

Regards,

Marc

Groovy! Thanks Marc! That's good to hear about the oval of the hat. That should give the perfect SOC look for those of us with long oval alien heads.

Thanks again for the heads-up and the photos. Really appreciated.

Cheers!

Dan

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:14 pm

Do you offer half sizes (e.g. 57,5 cm) as well?

Jup! We call them AB and AB-Dlx.. Be prepared for a longer wait though

Regards,

Marc

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:21 pm

Marc, can you post a pic of the Henry and the AB-dlx side by side? Just curious.

Indiana G · Post by **Indiana G** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:34 pm

Indiana Strones wrote:Marc, can you post a pic of the Henry and the AB-dlx side by side? Just curious.

CS block or Raiders block? The thread title is a little misleading as the factory hat is not using the CS block.....definitely a nice looking hat for a Raiders hat and i love that turnaround time

Bruce Wayne · Post by **Bruce Wayne** » Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:21 pm

sure wish i had paypal

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:29 am

Just a short update on how the second prototype performs:

I've been wearing it all Saturday, while working on the roof for the new hat shop in the hot sun. The hat was SOAKED in sweat after 10 hours and when we were done with working, I just threw it on a chair together with my clothes, took a long shower and forgot about it until the next day. I grapped the hat to check for shrinkage ect. and it's been doing TREMENDOUSLY well. It fit exactly as the day before and except for the saw dust etc. I coudn't tell any differences

So I'm happily looking forward for using it next Saturday again

Regards,

Marc

Indiana Strones · Post by **Indiana Strones** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:25 am

Indiana G wrote:
Indiana Strones wrote:Marc, can you post a pic of the Henry and the AB-dlx side by side? Just curious.
CS block or Raiders block? The thread title is a little misleading as the factory hat is not using the CS block.....definitely a nice looking hat for a Raiders hat and i love that turnaround time

I mean Raiders block!

Marc · Post by **Marc** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:46 am

The CS block IS a Raiders block. So you'll be fine either way

Regards,

Marc

whiskyman · Post by **whiskyman** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:56 pm

Just my tuppence to what is a fantastic looking hat..

Please don't add more curl to the brim - it's perfect!!

robertdconner · Post by **robertdconner** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:10 am

Will The Henry have the Adventurebilt logo on the liner and if so which logo?

And as far as bashing goes, did I miss a sticky post on bashing your hat to screen match Raiders? I've got a Miller that I've re-bashed but someone who's more of a pro should prob. post a tutorial if it hasn't been done already.

Philipp · Post by **Philipp** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:51 pm

That will be a really dumb question for most of you, but I hope you'll forgive me for asking it anyway (I'm new here after all...): How do I order one of those?!?

I know payment is via paypal but where/how do I order in the first place? And: The "turnaround time" mentioned above, is that how long I have to wait until I hold it in my hands...? Thanks for not beating me...

ichnob · Post by **ichnob** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:41 pm

Philipp wrote:That will be a really dumb question for most of you, but I hope you'll forgive me for asking it anyway (I'm new here after all...): How do I order one of those?!? I know payment is via paypal but where/how do I order in the first place? And: The "turnaround time" mentioned above, is that how long I have to wait until I hold it in my hands...? Thanks for not beating me...

This thread: COW member price for the Adventurebilt Henry.

Marc gives his paypal e-mail in it. Send the payment, and add your hat size, and shipping info.

Official Factory Produced KotCS AdventureBilt Fedora (Henry)

ordering question:

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Official Factory Produced KotCS AdventureBilt Fedora (Henry)